Yonex RDiS 200 Tour

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  1. XFactorer

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    You'll notice a lot more flex and it's softer at impact. Dwell time seems to be increased because of the flex. I really, REALLY love flexible racquets. I've hit with the Speed Pro and it's pretty heavy from what I remember. I didn't like it much and it felt very harsh on impact. "Ball pocketing" really depends more on the strings you use. I get a lot of feel; enough for a scrappy baseliner who occasionally goes to the net.
     
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    Yeah, I hit extensively with a few flexy racquets the other day and it was amazing how much more consistent I was (was like day and night), with more spin; it was also so damn comfortable, without any significant loss of power. I began researching, but it seemed like most were too light or they were 18 x 20s. funny how the next day after yonex comes out with this bad boy. i'm excited.

    Does the head shape cause the feel to be different when you hit, compared to the normal style head shapes?
     
  3. mutantducky

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    One time with Yonex I had issues with the head frame but the last two times no problem at all. You get used to it quickly and I don't even notice now.
     
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    It did for me. I had the old RDX500 Mid and I tried hard to like it. It was a nice flexy frame. But for some reasons I could not get used to the Yonex head shape. The sweet spot was at different location than the others. It was a bit more towards the top of the racquet.

    You can get used to that I think. Once you find its sweet spot which is larger than the others, the feel is great. Nice and soft with a lot of pop.
     
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    Good! And would you say the spin production is good with Yonex frames?
     
  6. mutantducky

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    Sorry guys. No more Yonex 200. I bought them all.
     
  7. XFactorer

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    If anything, the Isometic head shape increases the sweet spot (so goes the claim). But I don't think it really seems to do much. The 200 supposedly has a sweet spot positioned more closely to where most baseliners hit the ball these days...

    I'm used to an isometric headshape and I enjoy them. A really round one like a Prince just seems odd to me.
     
  8. ahile02

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    Sweet, really can't wait to try this beast out
     
  9. XFactorer

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    You and me both!
     
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    Once someone hits, can they compare to the RDX500 mp? I'm dying to know!!!!!
     
  11. XFactorer

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    You got it! It's been a while since I hit with an RDX 500 (my main racquet back then)... but oh, I remember how sweet the flex was and hot soft and buttery the racquet felt in my hand on impact. Then I moved to the RDS 001 and it was stiff and crisp. Now I'm playing with the RQiS 1 Tour and it's OK in terms of flex... but I want more.
     
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    yes, finally people are getting some demos!
    Can people write some comparisons with the RDiS 100 mid, and also can people comment on how "big" the head size appears to be. The RDiS MP seemed way too large, while the Mid was perfect. Very excited to give this stick a good demo when more are in stock
     
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    Hmm... the midplus is 98, the mid is 93. What do you mean by "how big the head size appears to be"? the 200 is going to be 98.

    I'll have the 200 soon... whenever they ship out my order.
     
  14. Syfo-Dias

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    I'm glad to see Yonex is releasing a racquet with some good flex again. I'm playing with a RDS 001 MP right now and I'm not really digging the stiffness of it. I really miss the feel of my RDX 500. Hopefully this one will have a similar buttery feeling with with a bit more power.
     
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    Well maybe it was just me, but the 98 appeared to be like 100+ and it felt weird in the hand is all and the 93 seemed like a 95 :confused:
    That was my only complaint for the RDiSMP
     
  16. XFactorer

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    Ah... OK, I get what you mean. I'm playing with a 95 right now, but I grabbed my old RDS 001 MP and it feel big. I like the 95 head size, but it is terrible for me to volley with and I always hit the darned THICK sides at 3 and 9.
     
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    XFactorer could you post pics of the RDiS 200 when you get your demo? I know there are pics on TW and TWE but I'd like to see some untweaked ones.

    Thx! ;)
     
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    Do you guys think I should put lead in a specific place when I demo it? I usually have around 4 grams or so at 3 & 9 on my Speed Pro, so should I just go ahead and do that same thing for the RDiS 200, or do Yonexs usually perform better with lead at 12 or whatever?
     
  19. XFactorer

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    Oh, no, no, no.... I didn't order a demo. I just ordered the racquet... I'm such a Yonex fanatic that I forwent demo-ing just based on the flex rating and the other stats presented by TW.

    And, yes, I'll take pics and post them. I'm toooo excited!
     
  20. XFactorer

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    I'm a stock player. I did add some lead to 2 and 10 on the Yonex RQiS 1 Tour XL demos and they played better for me. But I normally don't modify my racquets with lead tape.
     
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    I hope the demo strings are good. My usual set-up is BBRough on the mains at around 54 or 53, and NRG2 17 g on the crosses at 52 or 51, though I'm gonna try the gut main/poly cross sometime soon.

    Demo comes in on Tuesday!
     
  22. XFactorer

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    TW strings demos at 2lbs above the mid with a good mutlifilament. The range is between 45 - 60, so the mid+2 makes it about 55lbs.

    I'm sure you're not gonna get penalized for stringing it to your own specifications, either, once you have the demo.

    So, you're getting the demos on Tuesday? I called the reps a few times and they said demos would be in this coming week... bah! I know I'm gonna like it; I've skipped the demo process.
     
  23. My demo should be here today. Will most likely hit with it Tuesday.
     
  24. Charles Norris

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    Amen!! That's the biggest reason why I am changing from the RQis 1 tour. After hitting with the new 200 for a week and breaking that string and going back to the 1 tour, I question why I ever even hit with it. Doesn't feel near as crisp. But I do have to say that it needs a bit more weight. I like the balance pretty good of this 200 so perhaps I'll put the lead all over. Any suggestions?
     
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    Sorry, I would post pics but I don't know how. I took a pic with my phone...anyway I can post it? (I have no internet on it)
     
  26. bad_call

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    looking forward to reading the reviews. the 2010 RDiS 200 MP specs look sweet but maybe the Tour will be even more enticing. :)
     
  27. Ptrac

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    I think we are all talking about the tour version. There is a lighter version that was being sold on TW europe, where as the one on TW right now is the heavier version that verdasco is using
     
  28. Charles Norris

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    Seeing that the RDis 100 and now the 200 are the same weight and balance, what is the big difference? Is flexibility/stiffness the only difference?
     
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    ok thanks. so the Tour is lighter? is there a link with the specs?
     
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    Gah i'm so psyched. My RDX500 is easily one of the best racquets i've played with, it's just getting old!
     
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    The RDiS 200 showed on TW is the 320g version which is considered as a replacement for the RDS 002 Tour.

    The RDiS 200 showed on TW Europe is the 295g version.
     
  32. Studio City

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    Aagh! The RDiS 200 demo has arrived! Brand new, off the shelf. Off to hit for a couple of hours. Will update!
     
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    Nice! Looking forward to more thoughts on this one. In addition to your impressions, a comment or two comparing it with the racquet in your sig would be much appreciated!

    Edit: specifically interested in the flex of the racquet.
     
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  34. Just got mine...might have to hit tonight. I hate having new tennis stuff lying around that I have yet to use. :p
     
  35. Syfo-Dias

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    If you're trying to make me jealous, you succeeded. Go and hit with that stick tonight and report back ASAP!
     
  36. XFactorer

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    *sigh* Why am I forking over 179 and not having my racquet in had whereas the demos are already out?

    Oh, update us! Let us know how the demos are! Take pics and post, too, please! I can only hope my 200 is shipped soon.
     
  37. Here is a picture of the demo. Brand new obviously. Weighed in at 334 grams with no dampener, so pretty close to spec. Has NXT on there, will probably hit with it in a bit.

    As far as the first impression goes, paintjob seems nice. Maybe not "amazing" but typical quality job by Yonex. I like it overall. There is a slight taper in the beam at the throat. I played with the RDiS 100 mp for awhile, but it was just too low powered and harsh feeling for me to stick with. If this is anything like the 002 tour with maybe a better feeling of control I would be thrilled...

    [​IMG]
     
  38. Woodersen

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    Would you say the RDiS 200 plays similar to the RDiS 100 MP? Seems like the specs are pretty similar.
     
  39. I just got back from a two hour session. Hit with both my standard APDGT and the Yonex. Pretty different sticks really.

    The Yonex is certainly a low powered racquet, and I kinda wonder why TW has it labeled as "low medium." I would say this racquet plays quite similarly to the 100 MP, as I played that one for awhile. It feels like a "softer" version of that racquet to me from what I remember. But that creates a problem for me. Even though the racquet was strung with full NXT, I was getting some fairly strong shoulder ache in the right arm after hitting for awhile. When I went back to the APDGT, it disappeared. In fact my APDGT with full poly felt a lot more solid and comfortable than the RDiS 200 with full NXT.

    As far as the performance goes, when I first started to play, I tried to play like I do with my APD. I'd call it a strong semi western grip. It really wasn't happening. It was hard to hit with much loop in the shot (for me), and with the APD I like to vary between fast loopy shots and flat drives. This racquet seemed to work far more effectively when I went semi western or strong eastern and tried to hit more of a flat trajectory. You still get quite a bit of spin, and I was told the balls were feeling very heavy, but the path of the ball was generally closer to the net. Backhands and forehands were solid feeling, with a soft flexy feel that I wouldn't call exactly classic. A softer RDiS 100 MP is the best I can do. It really doesn't remind me of the 002 tour either. Pace was slower off the string bed than with my APDGT, even with the flatter path. Balls landed shorter for me as well, and I'm sure that's a result of the monster spin that this racquet has, just like the 100.

    Serves were pretty good, they felt a little slower, and I wasn't getting much kick off the court. It wasn't really "exploding" much, but who knows what it would do with a good poly. Volleys were fine, good touch and control, slices were effective and easy to control. Nothing to complain about there.

    I think all in all, it's a pretty good racquet. I'm not really "sold" on it (I was thinking of getting one to play alongside my APDGT, until I knew which one I was more effective with in match play. Babolat and Yonex are basically my two favorite racquet makers), but I will give it the full week trial and a few more outings to see if it grows on me at all. I was honestly hoping for something with the 002 tour power and feel, with the RDiS 100 MP spin and control. This racquet is much much more a 100 MP in my opinion, than it is an 002 tour.

    I really think this racquet would be pretty great for a person who likes to hit flatter from the baseline with "milder" grips, wants access to plenty of spin, and likes to come in to the net at times. I'm sure it would also be a great serve and volley/doubles stick. Plenty of sweet spot, plenty of control. I love the head shape, and how it makes the racquet feel through the air. I just wish it had more power, and a different feel.

    I'll try and write more as I hit with it throughout this week.
     
  40. XFactorer

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    Jealous! Why are demos out, but not regular sticks? Customer service reps were telling me that demos will come out later than the regular sticks. Communication FAIL on TW's part.
     
  41. lefty001

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    Nice initial review.

    I currently play with the RDiS100 MP and am pondering to switch to the APD GT. Why did you switch to the APD GT? I play a baseline game with heavy spin and huge serves. Does the APD GT shine better for such a player like myself than the RDiS100 MP?
     
  42. I've played on and off with the APD stuff since the original. I've tried waaaay too much stuff. Kind of obsessive I guess when it comes to minutia for things I get into. I just keep coming back to it basically. It's maybe the best overall racquet I've tried for wanting to play a big modern game from anywhere on the court.

    I really liked the RDiS 100 MP, but a few things made me leave it. First off, I couldn't get used to the #3 grip. I like a smaller #2, and the #2 for the 100 was a lower weight, and I like a heavier racquet. Second, the lower power started to bug me. The new Yonex machines are absolute spin machines, probably more than any other racquet I can think of that's out right now. Just massive spin if needed. But all this spin made me drop the ball short more often than I liked. I have to go more mild to balance it out, but then I'm hitting more flat trajectory strokes, and I like to mix it up more. Lastly, the frame just started to plain old hurt, even with hybrids. It's a stiff feeling frame. The 200 less so, but that same style of feel is there. If the 200 hurt with NXT, I'm not sure a stiff poly would be a good idea.

    As far as the APD GT "shining" more for you, the only person that can answer that is you. I think you can get massive spin out of the Yonex racquets, as well as big serves (if you're good obviously). If you're interested in the APDGT, check it out, if not the yonex stuff is still good. I'll probably be able to hit with it a few more times before it goes back, so maybe I will get more into it.

    I will definitely be posting more thoughts, I've been waiting to try this racquet for months, I'm certainly not going to let a first impression be the last. The first time I tried black code I thought it was pretty bad, but now it's my main string. :p
     
  43. By the way, here are some shots of me playing with the 100 mp about a year ago. I was pretty sick this day though, but you can see the spin that I think these racquets get, I'm hitting pretty casual shots at times and you can see it jumping off the court. You can also see me drop the ball short a few times I think, but again I didn't really want to even be there that day. My friend was visiting.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0RlC5GWWtw

    Man those are some bad points.

    And here I am just "drilling" with the APD cortex on a day I felt like playing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8kCrRnr3us&NR=1

    I have no idea if any of this helps you with a comparison, but it gives me a lame excuse to link to my youtube stuff.
     
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  44. Studio City

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    First impressions, not my last by any means.

    RDiS 200 strung with Yonex 850

    4.0 player. Currently play with PT57A and RDiS 100 Mid
    Sticks I have enjoyed in the past: Ti-80, RDiS 100 Mid, RDiS 300, APDGT <- I <3 Yonex!

    Serving with the 200 was a treat…somewhat. Consistency was there and really that's all I could really ask for in a racquet. However, I was slightly disappointed by the lack of power the 200 was able to produce on my 1st serve, which is generally delivered flat. Second serves were consistent with the ease of spin I was able to generate, but they came at the price of having to snap my wrist off my arm—the racquet felt very head light and heavy in the handle and so it took some effort to make sure the the face of the 200 was leading, not lagging behind. Pronating quick and fiercely resolved that for me. Fortunately there was no discomfort after two hours of play—phew.

    Volleys were a joy to step into and place with the 200. There's absolutely nothing wrong I can say in regards to this stick at net. It handled effortlessly perhaps due to the 200 being so head light, but it was at net that I felt the racquet delivered the most control and power than anywhere else on the court. Which for someone like myself who rarely entertains the net, does not help my game—pooey.

    Ground strokes! I had no trouble honing into the power that the 200 had to offer, which I was quite excited about as I felt I've been needing some oomph in my game as of late, but the power levels were unpredictable at times—inconsistent. During the same point, using the same stroke, I could clip the net and the baseline back-to-back. I'm not wanting to dismiss the racquet just yet as it is just my first outing with the stick, but I was a bit displeased. Control was okay, just not precise. Spin was easy to generate and on the forehand side it was blast to really cut the ball to shreds. On the backhand side, my topspin suffered some by falling short at net and I eventually had to fall back on hitting flat.

    You know, it's odd, generally when I play with a new racquet for the first time I get really excited on court and I am uber-focused on court and playing great. I always get taken aback by that 'honeymoon' period everyone talks about, but today I felt like putting the racquet down at times and returning to my ol' gear which saddened me because I really want to enjoy this racquet. Well, have no fear, I have this pup' for the next 7 days and I swear to improve so that I can return here and give a proper critique.

    Would love someone to make a comparison with RDX-500 MP and 002 Tour.
     
  45. El Diablo

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    People seem disappointed by lack of power. I can't think of a racquet with a flex rating of 61 that could be described as having much power.
     
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    Good point, however with the introduction of Toughlex technology in the new Yonex lineup I was hoping for the power and flexibility they promised. That is, more pop and more comfort. The power is definitely there, but not as much as the RDiS 100 Mid with a flex rating of 68 and surprisingly not the comfort. I have to agree with TennisandMusic that the flex of the 200 is not quite 'classical'. Oddly enough, and I have had only one outing with the 200, but my 100 Mid provides better comfort. I am still adjusting…
     
  47. Hey Studio City, wow your impressions are nearly identical to mine, including the power, control, the need to hit flat, and the desire to go back to your regular gear at times. Practically the same as me. I'm going to be giving this one some more time as well though, like you said. I really wanted to love it on the first outing too.
     
  48. XFactorer

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    C'mon, guys... flex has nothing to do with power. The ball may dwell a little long on the strings, but according to Technical Tennis (and TW University), stiff racquets do not provide anymore power than flexible ones.

    That being said, anyone able to compare this to the RQiS 1 Tour (not XL)?
     
  49. Charles Norris

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    I actually feel like there is quite a great deal of pop. There is more with this stick than with the 1 tour at least. I am interested now in trying out the 100 MP again. I agree with all that at net it is butter and serving with it is pretty sweet. Nonetheless, it has its downfall. There was an inconsistent pop to it. Meaning (as stated above), that I will put identical strokes on the ball and they will do at times very different things. When I get time and load my hip, I get a ton of power, but when moving I am struggling with getting the ball back deep. I am a solid 5.0 with an eastern FH and a OHBH, all courter...btw.
     
  50. Charles Norris

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    XF-I think its worth a switch. I love the 1 tour and have been in love with it since day one. But, with the thick frame I always felt I couldn't just unload on the ball without hitting that dang thing. Obviously, the 1 tour is great around the net and on serve, as is the 200, but I think I have more control with the 200 than with the 1 tour. Just my opinion, but I do like it a lot. But as I asked before, should I try the 100 MP since they are so close in specs?

    I do feel like I need to lead this stick up though. I need something that gets through the ball a little bit more.
     
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