Yonex V Core 98D, what a nice surprise!

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  1. Ten_nuts

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    I actually never thought that i would buy a Yonex racquet. I borrowed a friend this Yonex V Core 98D and hit for only half an hour, and i knew i've got to have it. I bought 2 of these with grip 4 1/4. The racquet looks so beautiful with quality deisgns. At the throat it has the letters US and a little shiny hologram sticker(as i was told by the Yonex dealer, this same racquet that was made for Asian market doesn't have the letters US and no shiny hologram sticker at the throat. Can anyone in Asia area verify this?). I got the 1st racquet strung with Babolat Revenge 16g full bed at 60lbs main vs. 58 lbs cross, and the 2nd one was strung with Solinco Revolution 17g full bed at 57 lbs main vs. 55 lbs cross. The one with Revenge weighes 11.44 oz and the one with Solinco weighes 11.43 oz, how sweet is that? What a superb quality control Yonex has. My idealized weight would be 11.7 to 11.9 oz, so i added 6g lead tape at 12 on each one as well as Yonex overgrip. Now the one with Revenge weighes 11.82 oz and the one with Solinco weighes 11.81 oz. Now with the lead tape and overgrip, each racquet has about 5 points headlight, and i am very pleased that the headlights on both of them are exactly the same. Sweet. Now it's time for hitting talks.
    After a few strokes warming up, i could tell the stiffness of the frame is around 62 max (i think it's 61 or 60) cause my forehand felt very comfy. I was also very surprised that eventhough it weighes 11.82 oz, but i felt a little light when hitting. The power was good but not too much like the Pure drive, and the vibration was very little if hitting heavy balls. I went on and rallied for a while, then i switched to the one with Solinco and played 1 set singles. Here's my thoughts:
    Serve: flat serve was great because, as i mentioned above that i felt the racquet a little light, i was able to snap the ball quite easily. Kick serve was better than the Utek Radical MP that i used to play, cause the balls went over my friend's shoulders. I still have to work on slice serve with this racquet because, with the Utek Radical i had no problem serving wide, i got the balls go too wide (out) with this Yonex.
    Forehand: all i can say is...awesome. I barely missed the forehand during the match. Again, the racquet was very easy to swing and my topspin forehand did bite the balls like crazy. I also noticed that the accuracy was there wherever i aimed the targets. The sweetspot seems large to me.
    Backhand: again my 1 handed backhand with crazy spin worked quite well. At 1st the balls went below the net, but i adjusted it quickly and it worked wonderful. Slice backhand with this racquet was also great thanks to the huge sweetspot.
    Volley and overhead: I could punch the balls at net with ease, or like a piece of cake and so with overhead.
    In short, this racquet is an all around court racquet with high quality design and beautiful paint job. It's worth the money. I also had a chance to hit with the RDIS 200 Light and i think it's also a very good racquet too. If i have the RDIS 200 Lite, i would put some lead tape at 12 and on handle, and i think the RDIS 200 Lite would do awesome job for me too. But if you like the RDIS 200 Light but want it a little stiffer, want it look prettier, you can give the V Core 98D a demo. This is my review. If you have questions, please ask and i will try my best to answer. Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. karophiteblu

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    Thanks for the awesome review! Have you tried the older version, the RDiS 100 MP? If so, do you mind posting a comparison? Thanks!
     
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  3. tennistiger

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    Someone told me that yonex rackets are now all from China, only the painting of the "Made in Japan" rackets is still made in Japan.
     
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  4. zumzool

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    It says made in japan on the frame.
     
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  5. Ten_nuts

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    Sorry buddy, i never hit this racquet. Let me see, long long time ago, i hit with the Yonex RDX 500 MP for around 2 or 3 minutes and quit. I also had a chance to hit with the RDIS 300 for a few strokes and didn't like it either. That's all the Yonex i've ever tried.
     
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  6. Ten_nuts

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    I really don't care much whether the racquet has the printed label: Made in China or Made in Japan. As long as i pick up a racquet and hit, and if i feel good--> i love it. DO you agree that eventhough the Babolat, Head, Solinco, and few other brand names have their racquets printed Made in China, but their paint jobs are outstanding.
     
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  7. Bartelby

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    Your version is a half an ounce heavier than it should be so that's more than a little off, but yes if it says MADE in JAPAN it is.
     
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  8. vsbabolat

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    I have a new VCore 100S and yes it is Made in Japan and it has Made in Japan printed on the frame. I was very impressed with the feel. Very solid frame.
     
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  9. vsdtrek

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    That 11.8 spec is really odd unless there are overgrips and vibration damper being included. Even then, that seems like a big difference.

    One wonders if that "US" designation has something to do with it.
     
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  10. Bartelby

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    It is only about a quarter of an ounce heavier, rather than a half, and it's basically a review of a weighted Yonex. 6 grams at 12 even with an overgrip makes this a quite differet racquet from the spec version.
     
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  11. li0scc0

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    The racquets weighed 11.43 and 11.44 ounces strung. THEN the OP added lead to get into the 11.8 range.
     
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  12. Bartelby

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    The idea of 6 grams at 12 is not very appealing. It provides a power boost, but is it viable in the long run???
     
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  13. vsdtrek

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    Got it - I was reading at work while on a conference call and didn't catch all (and some would say any!) of the details. :wink:

    I've been trying the RDiS 200 lite and think it is a bit too lite and flexible. The 98 specs seem exactly what I want so this review is really helpful.
     
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  14. XFactorer

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    The throat flex isn't anywhere close to 62. I demoed the stick for a solid week. It was OK. I was a little sporadic with it off ground strokes, but it felt so much stiffer than it's TW RDC rating.

    I ended up demoing a Ti80 lite and loved that much more.
     
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  15. Ten_nuts

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    Are you sure? as i stated, mine were strung full bed with Babolat Revenge 16g at 60 vs 58 and Solinco Revolution 17g at 57 vs 55, and my arm still feel very confortable while hitting. Some racquets i've tried with higher stiffness like Head IG Speed 18x20, Dunlop Bio. 300, 200 plus, and 500 tour, BLX Blade 98, BLX Blade Lite, and i could tell right away cause my arm getting hurt.
    The next string job would be my fav of all time string: Tecnifibre Pro Red Code 17g, full bed, at 57 vs 55.
     
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  16. JGads

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    Had the same reaction to the VCore line - stiffness felt way above the rating, given the throat doesn't bend at all really. Some people love that kind of stiffness. I just couldn't deal with it myself.
     
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  17. XFactorer

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    My arm doesn't hurt from a stiff frame. I just don't like the feel as much as I like a "soft" frame.

    The EZONE is rated at 68 and it's soft at impact. But I felt like the VCOREs (98D and 100S) were really stiff.

    On a side note, the Pro Red Code has a "break in" period... it'll feel good after that initial "Oh, this is horrible!" At least that's the case for me.
     
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  18. Ten_nuts

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    Hi XFactorer, i agreed with you that the Pro Red Code does have a break in period, and that's why i use the 17g so the break in period is way much faster than the 16g. Such awesome string.
     
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  19. Boricua

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    I have this racket VCore 100S also with Revenge mains, gut crosses. Still adjusting, but mighty solid for a light racket.:)
     
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  20. Boricua

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    I love the stiffness without the hurt, huge sweetspot, no vibration, VCore 100 does this:)
     
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  21. tennistiger

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    Made in Japan may be only mean that it got its painting and finishing in japan.
     
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  22. all-court-loser

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    yonex has its own racquet production facility in japan!

    btw. - their qualitiy controll is outstanding and that is why their products differ less in specs on the same models than racquets from most other big companys!

    you can say that you don't like the playing characteristics of their racquets or their look but you have to admit that they produce high qualitiy products!
     
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  23. Buckethead

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    Yonex has their own machinery to manufacture rackets in Japan, that is why it is made there.
    If I am not mistaken no other company has the machinery and that's why all the others have to have it OEM made somewhere that happens to be in China.
     
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  24. tranphuloc2910

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    I currently using a Yonex VCORE 98D SP code, means for South Pacific Region. It does not have the US label after the text "V-Core 98D", however I does have the small yellow Hologram label =D

    After stringing it with a hybrid ( Yonex tour super 850 (16g, main) + Babolat RPM Blast (17g, cross) + an over grip + 1 dampener ... it has weight about 11.2oz (nearly 320g)

    So ... in conclusion the VCORE for Asia region has slightly lower weight than for US region :D
     
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  25. tennistiger

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    I know from good source that many of the badminton rackets "made in japan" were only painted in Japan. Why should this be different with tennis rackets?
     
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  26. Bartelby

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    Some markets have very stringent laws about labelling so this could be a way of checking whether they're really made in japan, but for what it's worth i'm inclined to think they are made in japan.



     
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  27. Ten_nuts

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    Thanks for the info. So it's true that the V Core 98D racquets for the Asian markets are slightly lighter. Could anyone in Europe provide some info. about how they printed the V Core 98D over there please?
     
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    Really? I thought the Yonex have their racquets made in Japan and, of course, painted in Japan too. If so, underneath the shiny paint jobs, the Yonex racquets must have printed Made in China somewhere on the frames. Really?
     
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  29. vsdtrek

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    Just started demoing one

    Hit with one last night strung with Yonex synthetic at 58#. For reference have been using an RDiS 200 lite demo for about 2 months at similar setup. The 200L has been OK as time goes on. Still think it to be a bit light and flexible against hard hits and occasionally get a little fast with the swing.

    Initial thoughts on the 98D is that this thing lacks feel. Stiffness is there throughout the whole frame but didn't seem harsh. I think compared to the 200L, it does seem more stable and perhaps a bit more pop and control due to that but I really had no sense of the ball. Kind of like the 200L swingweight more too but that might be me just being more used to it.

    Will try it a few more times over the next week but right now, the absence of feel is making me consider buying the 200L or even trying a RQiS Tour 1 light.
     
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  30. Weston

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    @ Ten Nuts,

    Thanks for the review of the Yonex 98 D. I have been thinking of demoing this racket ever since I tried my GF's Youtek radical MP. I really enjoyed the comfortable feel, suprising stability, and excellent control offered from this racquet but thought I wanted a little more power out of my racquet. I noticed that you used to hit with the Youtek Radical MP and I was wondering if you could go into greater detail about the similarities and differences you have noticed between the two, and why you decided to make the switch away from the Head.

    Thanks again for the great review
     
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  31. Ten_nuts

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    About moving from Utek Radical MP to Yonex 98D, i think i made the right move. 1st of all, i hit topspin forehand, and i like Yonex's handle than the Utek Rad's handle. For the Utek Rad Mp, i tried to go down from L3 to L2 but still didn't like it. Secondly the 98D has more string open, which is great for topspin forehand. The 98D doesn't feel as soft as the Utek Rad, but not as stiff as the Dunlop Bio. 300 that i tried. With the 98D vs. Utek Rad MP, i could tell that the 98D has more power in everyway. The only thing i think i still like the Utek Rad MP is the slice backhand, but i am getting used to the 98D pretty much so far.
    What style do you hit your forehand? If you have topspin forehand and if you have both Utek Rad MP and Yonex 98D in your hand (demo), you can see right away what i mean. If you have flat forehand, i strongly suggest you demo the 98D carefully because: the 98D is obviuosly stiffer than the Utek Rad, and 18x20 of the Utek Rad is great for flat forehand as we all heard of. Another factor i think we should take into consideration is the strings. For instance, the Utek Rad can go with stiff string like Luxilon fullbed, but the Yonex 98D can go with stiff string? i don't know yet. I've been trying to get my racquet(s) strung with Tecnifibre Pro Red Code 17g but i can't, because my friend borrowed my Pro Red Code reel and i haven't seen him for 4 or 5 days. Anyway, i hope you have the idea here.
     
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  32. gaga123

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    I believe the lower end Yonex sticks are made in china, while the Higher end models are still made in Japan. I have a Ultimum rd ti-80 btw and loving it.
     
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  33. jk175d

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    I'm in the same boat, sort of. I used Youtek Rad MP for almost a year loving it until I started playing this one guy who forced me to have to be aggressive on nearly every shot, I found the MP wasn't as compatible for that style of play for me. I borrowed a Babolat APDC one time and dominated the guy. So I immediately switched. I've been liking the APDC quite a lot, and my game has evolved to get the most out of it. But I always liked the way the Rad MP felt in my hands a little more. On paper it seems like the Vcore 98 might be a nice middle ground of the two. I've got one coming (along with the vcore 100s) to demo this week. I'll report back.
     
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  34. XFactorer

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    I just got the lite version... love it!
     
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    Thanks for answering my questions. In summary I think you are saying that the yonex has more spin potential than the radical but is not as soft/comfortable, and that the yonex is a bit more powerful but maybe not quite as controlled as the radical.
    The other difference I notice in a spec comparison of these two rackets is that the radical has a 324 swing weight and the yonex is 309. does that have any appreciable effect on groundstrokes?
     
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  36. Weston

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    I too have demoed the APDC and love it, though I it does not feel as nice as the radical MP. if the Vcore 98 lands between these two rackets than it sounds like a pretty awesome racquet. I think I will have to give it a demo :)
     
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  37. jk175d

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    So yesterday I had a chance to play with the Vcore 98 and the Vcore 100. Unfortunaetly both were set up with a full bed of multi whereas I am used to copoly mains at lower tension. So it was a little tricky to get a complete comparative feel. But I can say that surprisingly I didn't like the 98 at all. But the 100 felt really nice to me. The 100 basically felt almost the same to the APDC except maybe just a little more stable. The 98 just seemed kind of dead and stiff. Obviously YMMV. Last night after hitting I restrung the 100 with my usual hybrid setup of Tour Bite 17 mains and Gosen Sheep 17 crosses (52 and 57lbs). So I'll go back out with it this weekend and get a much better comparison to my APDC.
     
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    another update.... played with it today strung up as noted above The vcore 100, not 98). I like this frame quite a bit. It's kind of light so I added a little weight at 2 and 10 and an equal amount on the butt cap to maintain the same balance. The weight made it feel just a little more stable. Overall this frame is very similar to the APDC but with a little more of a traditional feel. The only thing I haven't gotten as comfortable with is keeping a backhand slice low. I'm a little undecided as to whether I actually gain anything with this stick vs the APDC. Today was only doubles, tomorrow I'll give it a go in singles. That should be more revealing.
     
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  39. vsdtrek

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    Tried 98D again

    Played a set of doubles and two sets of singles tonight. Actually had some feel with it but it doesn't seem as mobile to me as the RDiS 200L (seems more tip heavy). Didn't like it for serves or volleys as much. From the baseline and even midcourt, it was quite solid and actually cranked some very nice forehands but really didn't did not like it for my 1HBH. I have not had any issues with the stiffness.

    To me, this seems like a decent option for a baseline to all-court player. With the way it swung, I actually think it would be better for someone with a 2HBH. The mobility wasn't there for me.

    So, I'm either buying the 200L or the RQiS Tour 1 Light.
     
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  40. XFactorer

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    Try the Ti80 Lite. I played with the RQiS 1 Tour (regular weight) and loooved it after I played with it for a while. The RDiS 200 (regular weight) was my next racquet, but it was just "OK." It didn't help much (besides offering 3 extra square inches). The new Ti80 Lite, however, does seem to off more. 98 headsize, moves well, offers good power and control. I won my first real 4.5 match today... and I credit the racquet (not myself). ;-)
     
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    What setup did you like more, Revenfe or Revolutiom?

    Have you tried other Yonex rackets and if so how do they compare to the VCOre 98?
     
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  42. Boricua

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    How foes Pro Red compare to Revenge?
     
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  43. vsdtrek

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    I would like to try that but I use a 5/8. Too bad they only go to 3/8.

    Did try the 98D one last time Wednesday and am going to rule it out. Just don't like the way it moves.
     
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    Hi guys, and how are you all doing? I've tried the fullbed Pro Red Code 16g at 57# vs 55#, and it was a little hard at the 1st few hours. After that, i am back to normal. Awesome power with super accuracy. I didn't like the Babolat Revenge string because it's like synthetic gut. Now i have 3 of these with the following setups: 1st strung fullbed with Solinco Revolution 16g at 57 vs 55, 2nd strung with Pro Red Code 16g fullbed at 57 vs 55, and 3rd strung with Babolat RPM Blast 16g at 57 vs 55. The best one in 3 would be the one with Solinco Rev for this string has less stiffness than the other 2 but no string movement and the durability is great. The either the Pro Red Code or the RPM Bast are great (by the way, this is the 1st time i used the RPM and liked it already).
    I just bought a used RDiS 200 Light at my local tennis shop for 50 bucks. I had it strung with Pro Red Code 16g at 57 vs 55. I put 0.22 oz lead tape (exactly) at 12, 0.20 oz on handle, so it weighed 11.84 oz including 1 Yonex overgrip and 1 Boris Becker dampener (i really love this Boris Becker dampener for it never flies off the string bed and the image of BB's serve). So now i have both the RDiS 200 Lite vs V Core 98D that have the same strings and same tensions to hit. I must say that the RDiS 200 Lite feels more solid, more feels, easier on the arm than the V Core 98D. When i hit topspin forehands, i got a feeling that the V Core 98D is floating on the air (i didn't see this with the RDiS200 Lite). I am really confused between these 2 racquets. If i have to choose, i would pick the RDiS 200 Lite.
     
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  45. JackB1

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    Why add all that weight to the 200 Light? Why not just get the regular RDiS 200?
     
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  46. Ten_nuts

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    Hi JackB1, my ideal racquet's weight is around 11.4 oz to 11.9 oz. If i use the regular RDiS 200, i cannot use the overgrip and dampener. I think it becomes my habbit that whenever i pick up a racquet, i always put an overgrip and a dampener. So adding up all that, the regular RDiS 200 will weigh around 12.1 or 12.2 oz. Another factor is that i'd prefer a racquet with only 3 to 5 points headlight cause i hit flat forehand. If it has more than 5 points headlight, i could feel the vibration and so does my elbow. The V Core 98 has pretty paintjob, but the RDiS feels much better. But if you play with soft string, the V Core 98 is not a bad choice.
     
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  47. JackB1

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    Just picked up one of these. Will post my thoughts soon.
     
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    I had a chance to hit with this racquet for about an hour as a demo from my tennis buddy. They came with cheap synthetic gut string some off brand that said not for resale :). Even with substandard strings and no vibration dampener, this is the first Yonex that I actually like.

    Compared to the Youtek Radical MP, this is a bit crisper but i didn't find it stiff and it did not hurt my arm even without the dampener. I can imagine putting gut on this racquet and it would make it nice and soft.

    I love the ability to swing out on the racquet and most balls would land in most of the time. This racquet is better for flat hitting though as I was able to generate substantial racquet speed to hit to the corners. I tried hitting with topspin and felt slight vibration with the racquet so this might not be good for those that hit with massive topspin.

    I will need more time testing this racquet but so far, I have been pleasantly surprised by the racquet's performance.
     
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  49. JackB1

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    Hey parasailing. We seem to try the same kind of racquets a lot :)

    I just strung up a 98D last night with multi mains and copoly crosses and will try it out soon. Mine came in at 335 grams with overgrip and dampener and 7 pts HL. Are u playing your stock so far? Does the swingweight feel "substantial" or do u think it will need some lead tape? Does it feel stable?
    How is the feel at impact? Is it more firm and stiff or more soft and flexy or something in between? You said it was a bit crisper than the Rad MP, which is a pretty flexy frame. Can u feel some flex and give with the frame at impact or does it stay firm?
     
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  50. pepka

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    No flex but comfortable. A little dampend feel, stable at impact. Yours seems pretty heavy at 335g.
     
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