You vs Federer!

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  1. bottledwater

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    Good ol' Roger just happens to be having a stroll by your local tennis club where you happen to be alone, and practicing serves. He's feeling friendly.

    "Hey Roger, how's it going?"
    "Good thanks, you?"
    "Not bad thanks. Wanna have a hit?"
    "Yeah, sure".

    How many points do you think you can take off him? A game perhaps?
    Personally, I think I may be able to take him to a deuce or something.

    What about you?
     
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  2. kimbahpnam

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    i guarantee i will win every unforced error made by Fed.
     
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  3. Considering how he has crushed some of the better pros (bagels to Hewitt, Gaudio, even Nadal on a few occasions etc), I think you would have to count yourself as darn lucky if you won a handful of points.

    If I ever got him to 15-40 on my own serve, I'd be thrilled. "I won a point off Federer" is about as big a bragging right as some cheesy club player could have. Not that bragging is ever a good thing.
     
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  4. SuperFly

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    A better question is why would Federer train in a public club? He would be swarmed immediately.
     
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  5. bottledwater

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    Logic aside :)
     
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  6. VivalaVida

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    I saw a vid of Federer playing with a young 14 yr old kid with solid and developed groundstrokes during a public event. This kid was really going for his grounstrokes and Roger was being a nice guy and tapping every single ground stroke right back. I am only a 4.0 tennis player and I would go for a winner on every shot in hopes that I land it or Fed misses.
     
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  7. BreakPoint

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    If Federer played like the way he did in the US Open final against Del Potro, I might even get a game off of him. :shock:







    (All on his double-faults, of course. ;) )
     
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  8. bottledwater

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    On the last set, of course ;)
    Actually, that's a good point. Probably will definitely get a game. Use Nadal tactics!
     
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  9. VivalaVida

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    lol, an average tennis player wont even get close to getting the ball that high to feds backhand. Federer will munch those backhands for winners. :)
     
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  10. Tsonga#1fan

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    I'll win as many points as he allows me to.
     
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  11. bottledwater

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    Well, some of us haven't done too bad, tennis wise. You never know.
     
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    Great question!!!

    However, in all reality, I don't care how good anyone claims to be on this wonderful website. If Rog decided to play his best, most of us would be lucky to to keep a rally going for over 5 or 6 shots. As for point totals, again I think we'd be lucky to get a point on him without him making an unforced error. That is unless we served underhand and dinked every shot back.
     
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  13. Like I said...

    Are you anywhere NEAR a pro? Did you play Div 1 college tennis? Federer can bagel the top pros. What small prayer would you have unless you are also a pro? You would be lucky to win points.

    People overestimate their tennis ability far too often. There are some hilarious examples on this board even.
     
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  14. ZhengJieisagoddess

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    I'd rather hit with Chrissie...but with either one of these greats I do not think I'd win a single point. I am just in total awe of them.
     
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  15. bottledwater

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    I play for City University, in London. Isn't too bad, in my opinion.
    But like somebody said, I'd win as many points as he allows me to win.
     
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  16. edberg505

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    It may sound like a great idea, playing Roger. But I don't think it would be very fun at all. Just think about it. Anything that's even remotely short on his side of the court is a winner. Hell, just thinking about it now it doesn't sound very fun at all. I've played Div 1 tennis so I'm pretty sure I could get points, but games? I doubt it. I wouldn't like to play Nadal either basically for the same reason. I wouldn't mind playing someone like Murray, Monfils, or Santoro. I think I could have some good points with them.
     
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  17. 35ft6

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    What makes you think this? Are you the number 1 singles player on your state college team? Because even then, you might not get deuce.

    I think if he didn't care, I would win as many points as he wanted to hand me. If he was trying even a little bit, he could almost golden set me. I say "almost" because he might frame a shot being as bored as he would be.
     
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  18. 1970CRBase

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    http://www.tennis.com/magazine/issue.aspx?id=36322

    The article isn't online but should be in that issue of Tennis mag. IIRC, one of the editors once tried to play a set for real against Mac, he didn't win a point until Mac hit the ball out (probably out of boredom). Mac vs Lendl or Wilander, an equal player of his level on the other side of the net who could put equal and opposing pressure on him, is one thing, Mac vs normal people is quite another. Against that editor, Mac could apparently put the ball anywhere he wanted.

    Threads like this are just laughable. Same like questions in the vein of "oh, what if Fed were playing with a wood racquet against you, how many points? What if Fed were playing with a wok, how many points.......... " You just don't recognise the lightyears and lightyears in skill between you and someone like Mac or Fed who are amongst the greatest professonal players ever to have played.

    You vs Fed? Never mind winning a point, you will be lucky to hit a second stroke in a rally.
     
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  19. 35ft6

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    If he was playing his best? You would be lucky to get three balls back if he was hitting it right at you at 80% power. If he was actually going for corner, he could end every point in 1 or 2 shots. These guys hit with a level of precision and power you have never even come close to experiencing. You might as well talk about how many home runs you could hit against a major league pitcher.
     
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  20. 35ft6

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    Edberg505, this is the first truly crazy thing I've ever seen you post. :) You're crazy, man.
     
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  21. Tanya

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    i'd double bagel him of course.
     
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  22. Bhagi Katbamna

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    He wouldn't lose one point. The only reason he has unforced errors is that he knows he's playing other pros. Against amateurs, he wouldn't need to go for his shots and therefore wouldn't make any errors.
     
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  23. edberg505

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    Which doesn't make it really fun at all. That's exactly what I'm talking about. If the goal is to get a point and Federer's goal is to beat me in a golden set. Boy, that would be tough. I'm pretty sure I could manage a point here or there. I wouldn't hit any second serves and I'd try to crack a winner on every single ball that came to my side of the net. But like I said, this doesn't sound like it would be very fun.
     
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    He does.
    Not so in Switzerland.
     
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  25. edberg505

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    LOL, I honestly think I could get points. But like I said in another post if his objective would be to golden set me, it would be tough but I think I could get a point.
     
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  26. bottledwater

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    This is a Tennis forum. There's quite a difference between folk like us on a Tennis forum, and an editor of some magazine. Because we put so much effort into joining debates here, I'd like to think the majority of us put some effort into the real game, too.

    Of course there's alot of difference in skill between us and the likes of mighty Roger, but it doesn't mean we can't hit a ball. I'd like to think those of us who have put hard work into our games can take a few points, if not a game of him.

    I've spent many, many hours with aching feet on a tennis court. In all weather.
    I guess I could speak for some other individuals here, too. Some of us will obviously exaggerate our skill, but some of us are realists, too.
     
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  27. 15_ounce

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    Actually not a long time ago I had a dream (in my sleep) that I had beaten Federer in a set, 6-0. LOL. I know it's impossible. Should be the other way around. But it was nice to beat him anyway.
     
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  28. 35ft6

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    :) I guess I was talking more about having good points against Santoro, Monfils, and Murray. I know you're one of the better players here and I'm not sure how you define "good points," but those guys would hit even top Open guys, the kind who win money tournaments in Southern California, right off the court. It wouldn't be competitive at all.
     
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  29. edberg505

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    I don't know about game but like I said some points should be doable. I don't think I have ever in my life witnessed someone winning a golden set from someone. That is a pretty hard thing to pull off. That means 24 points in a row. It's sorta like me going out and playing against a 3.0 player and winning every single point. Is it possible? of course. But something is bound to happen where that person wins a point.
     
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  30. Toxicmilk

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    Who's Federer?
     
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  31. edberg505

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    I dunno, I just think those guys tend to massage the ball around the court which would at least give me the opportunity to hit a few balls back and get a rhythm. Actually Monfils has been playing pretty darn aggressive as of late. But it seems like these guys don't really go out there with the mindset of someone like Roger. I mean that guy just doesn't mess around. It just seems like at least with these guys you can at least get into somewhat of a rally.
     
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  32. BreakPoint

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    Except in the '09 US Open final in which Roger was clearly not taking every point as seriously as he usually does and doing some very un-Federer like things out there. :shock:
     
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  33. 1970CRBase

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    OP is talking about somebody on this level.
     
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  34. Fedace

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    I will just show up in Nadal disguise and he will run in the other direction...
     
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    I'd pray to god that my first serves and my FH, running BH are on fire that day(biggest strengths I possess) while he plays poorly.

    Maybe I'd win a game if I play great :D
     
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  36. stoo

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    Help, I'm steppin' into the twilight zone....
    That's funny cuz I often have a dream about teeing it up in the final round of the Canadian Open with Tiger Woods and beating him for our Nation's highest golf achievement. Problem is though I wake up before the trophy presentation and realize I'm just another 4 handicap dreamer. :???:
     
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  37. stoo

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    I bet you'd sh*t your pants if Fed showed up at your club.
     
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  38. 35ft6

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    I've seen Open level playing guys ranked just outside 1000 and they couldn't stay in a rally at all. I think it's a bit like boxing or MMA, where two fighters who respect and fear other sort of feel each other out. But against an untrained fighter, they would just charge in and crush skull. Likewise, those guys might play conservatively against other people their level, but against one of us, they could serve and volley, just hit nothing but kick serves, go for winners off every ball, and win without trying.

    Anyway, here's Murray practicing.
     
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  39. edberg505

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    You are probably right. I'd still rather play these guys than Nadal or Federer. :)
     
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  40. JennyS

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    Since I'm a female, I think the only point I could ever get would be the double fault he'd make when I distracted him by immitating Rafa.
     
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    I guess if Fed plays like his life depends on it, most of us would be very lucky to get 1 point in a set.
     
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  42. Andres

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    Roger who??
     
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  43. Ambivalent

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    My hardest shot/serve into the opposite end of the court from him would still get returned for a winner.
     
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  44. msc886

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    Well any groundstroke he hits will be so heavy that even if i get a raqcuet on it, I won't be able to control it.
     
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  45. DownTheLine

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    I would pee my pants and run around the court waving my shirt if I got a game off Federer.
     
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    I am a decent 4.0+ and played an "open" level player who played #2 singles for a low-end D1 school. I won three points in a set that lasted 13 minutes and the only points were from his errors. It would be the same with Fed and I probably would loose in half that time. I suspect the D1 guy I played would probably last 13 minutes against him and get 3 points.

    There is a reason he is the GOAT. :)
     
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  47. HunterST

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    Everyone that thinks that could take a game, or even make a game competitive really, is insane (except maybe the D1 guy).
     
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  48. federer_FREAK

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    I would be so happy if I won a point. My serve would be the biggest joke for Federer to return, and there is no way that I could return his serve. My only chance would be if he double faulted.
     
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  49. darthpwner

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    I would probably get golden setted by Federer. The main recreational players(non D1 level or high ranked juniors) who stand the best chance are the monster servers. Even though Federer makes a living hitting insane returns against great servers like Roddick, a big server has a better chance than a recreational pusher. The pusher does not have the topspin of Nadal or the speed of a Nadal or a Murray
     
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  50. veroniquem

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    That's because his back hurt :wink:
     
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