Your Fastest Serve

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  1. drakulie

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    OK. Post your serve with radar proof and everyone at TW will believe you. Anything short of that and you are lying. By the way, 65 mph is what people like you are hitting serves, so don't be so hard on youself by saying it is an "underhand" serve.
     
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    By the way, just want to point out... I know people with absolute crap racquets who can serve as hard as the guys you see on TV. I know people with ridiculously expensive racquets who can't even hit the fence on the first bounce. The person makes the difference; any difference a racquet can make will be absolutely miniscule, disregarding extreme examples such as a wooden clunker, or a broomstick :p
     
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    ^^^ Jollyroger will disagree with you about the broom stick comment. :)
     
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    oh u r so cruel. just cause i'm in the 80 mph club doesn't mean i can't whoop up on u. btw - what's u're rating before i put my foot in my mouth?
     
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    80 mph????? the only time I've been clocked, but I was playin a tournament match, playin very poorly and serving only topspin serves, so I guess thats my speed for 2nd serves... And that was about 3 years ago, with my old dunlops 300g, I've gotta get clocked with my Pure Storms... see the progress Ive made
     
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    This thread is ridiculous. What a bunch of boasters. Are we tennis players or fishers?
     
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    Seriously! It's not like the op specifically asked it or anything...

    Wait...
     
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    Haven't got the radar out very often but when I did the sad fact is I managed 103. We were all speculating how far above 100 we'd get and the average best serve was about 90. It's a humbling experience.

    It would help everyone on these forums to regularly play league singles, regularly play tournaments, video themselves in a match, have their serve measured and play a set against someone with 1 current ATP point.

    Then, and only then, maybe we would get some objectivity on this board about our standard.
     
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    For most contributors to this thread you could divide by 2 and get a more realistic serve speed. But, like dak95 posted, at least it's very entertaining to read the comedic fiction.

    Please don't stop. I'm enjoying it...!

    - KK
     
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    Ha! this thread is hilarious! Think some people are confusing mph and kmh ;)

    Aint' that the truth. This forum has turned into a bunch of 3.5's and 4.o's bragging about their serves, how tight they string, how small headed their racquet is, how heavy their racquet is, how often they break strings, how many racquets they have, etc and etc. They use terms like explosive, bombs, on a dime, sublime, lethal, etc to describe their shots...in the meantime they are like 3.5's!!!! lol . <not that there is anything wrong w. that>. the terminology doesnt apply to 3.5's who arent sublime at anything tennis. This thread isnt even in the right section of the forum.
     
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    14 inches. I mean err ...
     
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    My fastest on Cheap radar sitting at the net was 107 mph. Now this is recent time, i think i was serving harder when i was young. Of course this is not my consistant average speed. and it was Indoors.. I heard before i have to add few MPH since the radar was sitting on next to the Net but not sure how much ??
     
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    Moved to Junior League and Tournament Talk? Odd place...
     
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    1/2 of these ppl who say they can serve in the 100s serve in the 70s & 80s. I guarentee it. If every1 were true, this would be in the general pro discussion.
     
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    You have to remember the question is What is your Top speed. Not what is your average speed ?? :)
     
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    You should enter the Fast ACE serve competition. I think there is a wesite for it. i heard a 4.0 guy hit a serve that was 123 mph. not sure the gun was juiced ??? and a 4.5 guy hit one at 128 mph. i think they are the leaders at their respectable levels.
     
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    Mojo - Thanks for pointing out the forum mixup.



    It's a judgment call. I figured most of the respondents are kids lying about their serve speed. (Of course adults lie about it too ... but they merely exaggerate, IMO. The kids are in a fantasy world of their own imaginations.)

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    haha KK, yeah, I figured it was something along those lines :p

    Murray Maniac: Think of it this way... There are some 4.5's who can serve hard. There are many 5.0's who can serve hard. Most 5.5's can serve hard. Most 6.0+ players can serve hard. A huge number of college players can serve big, in all divisions. A good number of talented juniors can serve hard. There are a ton of people out there who can serve hard.

    Then as someone above said, many DON'T. Just because someone doesn't always go for a 120mph serve doesn't mean they won't be able to hit one if going for some hard serves.
     
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    Rofl I'm number 52 in the boys 16s in the mid atlantic and my average second serve is between 75-80 mph depending on how much topspin I impart on the ball.
     
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    As I just said im number 52 in the boys 16s not old enough to play usta yet... I would be at least a 4.5 more likely a 4.5+

    Also I said 90 for fastest serve not average... My average first serves are 85-90 the only time I'll for my absolute fastest is when I'm down break point and I always go down the T for highest net clearance.
     
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    wow, so only a + - 10 mph from second and first serves. Uh huh
     
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    I also like your threads hitting with pros but you don't know their name or only first name =)
     
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    fluffy Beaver, regardless of whether this person is right or wrong, there is nothing unbelievable about a 10mph difference between first and second serves.
     
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    Look at some pro's stats and tell me that again.
     
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    Fed vs Safin wimby

    Fed 1st avg = 119 mph, 2nd avg = 98 mph

    Safin 1st avg = 125 mph, 2nd avg = 96 mph

    schuttler vs Nadal

    schut 1st avg = 115, 2nd 97

    nadal 1st avg = 116, 2nd 91 mph.

    Just good look at more WBF, don't be mad i called you out. And what makes you an exception that you don't fib a couple mph compared to everyone else.
     
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    I don't even know what this means. 140 was an example. 120 will still likely lead to a big drop (although not as much).


    Why would I be mad? You are clearly confused. I was not talking about the pros. Do you really find it unlikely that some kid has a differential of 10mph between his first and second serve? Particularly when his first serve is only in the 80's or 90 max? And why would I fib about a couple of MPH? I listed my speed above, and think it's faster now.

    I think perhaps there is a language barrier that is causing some confusion here. I don't know what you are trying to say.
     
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    I don't know, but I'm the only one who actually posted A VIDEO in this thread :p
     
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    I will post a video of me serving and playing (continuous) however I do not have a radar gun.
     
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    52?? really?? With a 65 mph underhanded serve?? LOL
     
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    LOL, no way, my fastest is 106mph on the $100 cheapo speedchek box radar (i think u use the same one drak). consistently high 90s mph 1st serve. but yeah, 50-60mph is the avg old man fast serve.
     
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    cool. look forward to seeing it. i should be able to assess the speed (somewhat accurately i hope) as compared to my latest observations.

    btw - 2 young guns were being clocked and one consistently served in the 80s and the other in the 90s - 100s. the difference was slight but was audibly heard. the 2 switched racquets and the result was the same (MG Radical and KBT). i stepped up to return the faster serving player and he clocked one which i thought was in the 110s. needless to say i was way too close to the baseline to get that one back.

    fun stuff returning big serves. now if i could just get a bit more on mine. :)
     
  33. go13illy

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    it was so fast i couldnt even see the ball.
    it just completely disapeared and left a hole in the fence.
    It was amazing everyone was like wtf!!!! hacks!!!@#@
     
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    My fastest clocked is 105, although there was a period when I was serving consistently around 110-115. Then I got sick and the flat serve hasn't come back since. However, I still can hit around 105.
     
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    this is a average speed ? if average is 105 then you should be able to clock one at 115 or so.
     
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    My flat serve is too inconsistent to use it often. But when I do, it's usually 95-105. Slices, kicks, and twists are too useful and consistent for me to try to throw in too many bombs.
     
  37. crazytennis

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    Probably like 75-80mph or maybe even less.
     
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    what level are you ? I hear that USTA 4.0's are usually at 80-90 mph
     
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    You should take your radar gun out to the courts one day. You will be very surprised. I did it once. The typical guys on the court, like the ones on this thread are always saying stuff like>>>

    "Yeah, today I must have hit one about 120. I was really blasting my serve." There opponent will confirm.

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    "That serve you hit today to win the 4th game was well over 100 mph." Again, opponents will confirm.

    When I took my rardar gun out to the courts, most of the guys who **think** they are hitting in the 100 mph range, were topping out at 80. Mind you, this was the fastest serve they could hit. No pressure of a match, no worries about getting it in, etc.

    There were only 3-4 guys who reached 90+, and less that broke the 100 mph mark. Again, keep in mind>> no pressure, and this was going all out.

    Like I said, most guys are in the 70+ range. Problems is, most people are use to returning against this velocity, and every once in a while someone will crank a serve that is 20 mph faster. The opponent will automatically asume the serve has to be well over 100 mph because of the vast increase in speed from 70 to 90 mph.

    Anyway, there were a lot of deflated egos that day.

    With technology today, and evryone owning a cellphone with video capabiltiy, plsus the fact that many posters have said they have been radared, if the posters were being truthful, this thread would be full of videos confirming the speed they state they could hit serves.

    to date, I believe there are only 3, maybe 4 posters who have posted video evidence they coudl serve as fast as they say.
     
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    ^^Yes but if they were using the cheapo standup at the Netcord, then isn't that really lower speed than what it really should have been ??? i hear the ball will lose about 20 MPH when it reaches the net,,,,i heard this somewhere.....LOL.....so maybe they were really hitting 100mph serves that day,,,,LOL.......
     
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    ^^^ More like 3-5 mph.

    By the way, the speetrak is fairly accurate. I tested mine against a professional radar used for baseball, and the difference was -1 mph.
     
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    ^^ I think it was a comment made by you on the other serving thread that is really old. called ??? my serve speed ??. i think in that thread you said you have to add about 10 mph if you are using the portable small rectangular radar.?? i don't know if that thread is still around ??
     
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    ^^maybe someone else. In my thread, I stated the difference is 3-5 mph, and my test with a professional radar gun confirmed that the speedtrak was very accurate.

    There were a few spinoffs from that thread, where two posters figured out a formula to calculate serve speed.

    The thread is still around in the tips section. It pops up from time to time.
     
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    Originally Posted by Fedace
    Those Portable Rectangular radar gun is just not accurate. Just to prove the point, when i used one of those portable machines, my serve kept on clocking at about 90-95 mph. but when i went to a Major tennis club in town with same gun as ATP tour uses which sits on the wall behind me, my serve was clocking from 98-108 mph. so i lost all confidence on that little portable machine.

    The one you used picks up the speed at contact, which is why it is faster. The machine I used picks up the speed when the ball approahces the net>>> so the ball has lost some speed. The speed of my serves according to a formula used by maverick 1 and Mike Cotrill was around 113-115 mph.

    They used the video I sent them to count the number of frames that passed from the time of contact of racquet to contact on the ground. Additionally, they factored in distance, etc. (I think they are engineers). They posted their formula as a sticky in the tips section.

    This was the post i was referring to.
     
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    Fedace, where is that post from?? that wasn't me saying that.

    And yes, Mike and Mav did the thread you refer to after getting the idead when I posted my serve video with radar.

    The **FORMULA** they came up with was very, very accurate. However, there is "pilot error" involved. IN other words, the viewer has to "assume" when contact is made, and "assume" the distance the ball has traveled from racquet contact to ground contact. They then have to input that data (which is imposible to be accuarte) into the formula to obtain the serve speed.

    Therefore, the speed of a serve using their formula will be about 10-15 mph faster than the actual speed.
     
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    And if you are using the Speedtrak, how do you know what the real speed of the ball is just as it is coming off your racket, not when it reaches the net.???
     
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    Your thread, My serve 100+ mph on radar,,, thread it was. the middle paragraph is your statement.
     
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