Your favorite classic & string set up

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  1. Frankc

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    Curious as to your favored string/hybrid and tensions with your favorite classic frame.

    In Kramer Pro Staff, I like a top end multi - quite tight.
    In a favored US Model Head Graphite Professional, I have found a medium low tensioned natural gut mains and top end multi crosses provides a great feel - pop and control.

    And your classic frames...? Thanks...
     
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  2. joe sch

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    I really enjoy wood rackets strung with natural gut at low tension. I find Victor imperial at 45..50 lbs very enjoyable.

    Yesterday I was hitting a Bancroft Borg personal woody with Victor Imperial at approx 45 lbs and it felt like I could almost hold onto the strokes for an extra few 1/2 second.
     
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  3. Frankc

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    Appreciated , Joe

    This helps me as I recently returned to play classic frames. I love the game and besides the utter beauty of the classics, the craft involved, I feel they allow me to play the game as I want to. Feel, control and variety. So, string set ups are essential.

    That extra feel with lower gut must be nice. I'll try that as that extra holding time gives me much greater variety.
     
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    Just about any nice wood at 48-50lbs with any good natural gut. The Dunlop Max200g at 55 with VS17 is incredible. But my favorite at the moment is the Rossi F200 at 52 with Pacific Gut
     
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  5. Frankc

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    Wow, memories, I remember hitting one evening with a 200G demo with thin gut and everything was so smooth and tight. When I mentioned this to the shop, he said it was the thin gut that was so dynamic in that frame.
    Now, the 200G and a Rossi with thin gut - that's Classic...Very nice...
    So, the thin gut is the key?
     
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    Back in the day rackets were designed to be played by top caliber players with natural gut strings - that is part of the reason that they play so well with those strings. Good synthetics are also a solid choice, but in a flexible (under 50-ish RA) classic frame, nothing plays as well an Gut. I am not a person who can normally trade strokes from the baseline, but getting used to the F200s with Pacific Gut has given me exactly what I've needed all these years to be patient and wait for my opportunity to get into the net on a strong shot rather than coming in on anything half-way decent. The ball stays on the strings so long that you can really do anything with it - it really favors my traditional strokes.

    I'm trying to find the sweet spot though. My really flexible rackets don't volley all that well for me, but when I get up toward a 60 RA, I loose a lot of what I liked about the rackets from the baseline...
     
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  7. Frankc

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    Yes, agreed - good gut was the standard. With the woodies, I remember three basic set ups: good gut, Toa 66, and Blue Star. Also, there was a rumor that the very best regional players had a shot at some special, thin gut that was very special. May have been lamb gut - I remember early players (pre WW II) commenting that the early guts were a great advantage over later eras...

    I agree on the flexy frames - well put - my control and depth is far better with a 50 RA or so frame. Like with wood, it is hard to make an error and I enjoy paving the way for easier volleys. Yes, that dwell time with a similarly flexy frame and gut provides plenty of time to do things with the ball. Working the ball is very pleasant... And funny how the joints don't ache... BTW, 60 RA seems to be my spot where the fun ends... agreed...

    I have a friend who has played wood/gut competitively on a regional basis through the super seniors - he enjoys pinpoint placement and working the spins to great advantage. While he is on fixed income, the best gut is essential for him...
     
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  8. texacali

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    I liked my Wilson Stan Smith Autograph, Leoina Nylon 60lbs
     
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  9. MarrratSafin

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    I like my Head Prestige Pro 600 with Iso Speed Pro Classic 26kg..
     
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  10. michaelscoots

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    Is this the string you're referring to?
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Toalson_Leoina_66_15L_String/descpageACGAMMA-LEO.html

    If so, I have to say I never knew of it before. But it looks pretty great! I've been picking up lots of old woods lately, many with the original strings. The tension is probably around 30 on many of the frames but the string plays great. Someone else here mentioned that nylon used back in the day was often 15L. I like the dwell time of the low tension and crisp feel. Looks like this is a good option for me.

    I tried Prince Synth. gut with duraflex and something similar but they only last 2 days of rallying (5 hours) before one of the mains snaps in the sweet spot. I think it's time to try this string!

    Thanks for suggesting and thanks to the original poster!
    Michael
     
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  11. Frankc

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    Yes, that's the stuff - 66 ( the pic of Newk is always there)- I liked it at 60 in my Rossi Strato...
    Enjoy... that was a classic string choice back with the woodies...
     
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    Awesome! After reading this, I spoke with my brother last night who picked up a Wright and Ditson a couple weeks back. What I loved most about it was the string! It was crisp and you could tell it would last longer than most synth guts. No crazy trampoline effect, just control, bite, and power when you want it with your own might. There was some blue writing on the string that we couldn't make out...but now we know what it was!!! Seems like the perfect alternative to gut in the woods! I'm set now!!!

    Thanks again!
     
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  13. texacali

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    If it hasn't changed since late 70's early 80's, that would be it...the only string I ever used until now. I remember it being called Leoina and there was also something called Nachtoa(?)...I kinda remember a friend of mine and I argued over these strings for some weird reason. I thought they were the same string.



     
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  14. mmk

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    Where are you getting Victor Imperial? I haven't seen that in decades.
     
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    So I tried the Leonia 66 out today. I strung it up on my Wilson Jack Kramer PS at 45 lbs. I felt pretty stiff, and it didn't slice as well as the 16 gauge I'd been using. It made my PS feel more like a Maxply McEnroe (much stiffer / less buttery).

    I may try it in a hybrid next at a much lower tension...Maybe 35 mains Leonia and 40 crosses with the Prince Synth gut with duraflex. If that doesn't jive, then I may go back to my original set up which only lasts 2 days of rallying.

    My favorite string on the racquet so far has been the stuff they've shown up with upon purchase. Looks to be original synth gut of some sort, and it will last 3-4 hitting sessions. The tension is probably around 30 lbs but I love the dwell time and buttery feel! Still on the search...
     
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  16. Kirko

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    Jack Kramer "select" black & gold graphics .. "firm-flex" ... lt.-med. strung with Leonia 66 @ 55 lbs.
     
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  17. 4sound

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    Plays like buttery goodness!
     
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  18. coachrick

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    I completely understand the Leoina 66 set-up for nostalgia's sake; but for the life of me, I don't want it in a 'classic' that isn't something big with a really open string pattern. Put it in a Kramer Auto?...c'mon! Break out the nat gut or find a set of Blue Star! :) :)

    I know, I know...I'm tempted to replicate the feel of the old days with a set of Leoina in a Red Head or Yonex 7500 but wouldn't gut be more fun!?!?!? :)

    If you do find a stash of Leoina string lying about, look for the Toalson or Leoina 77...MUCH more interesting with the thinner gauges compared to 66(again, I'm speaking of playability, not true nostalgia). Apologies to those who like really F-A-T string ;) .
     
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  19. Kirko

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    they used to make a graphite string also that I used pretty good actually ...
     
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  20. Kemitak

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    Black Wilson Graphite Matrix with the factory string.
     
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  21. coachrick

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    And don't forget the PINK UFO :) .
     
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  22. Kirko

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    remember "oil filled nylon" :)
     
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  23. Hankenstein

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    Yonex RD7 with a 1,25mm Babolat VS at 55 lbs. WICKED! :)
     
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  24. coachrick

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    I played the RD-7 in 91-92 or thereabouts and my arm still hurts. It was very solid and beefy, great for punishing groundstrokes, but it just didn't work for me. 17ga VS would be a definite fit for that stick...sort of an 'improved' classic composite feel. I felt the same way about the Cyborgs...used them for a year or so but just couldn't make them feel as comfy as others(even older Yonies like the R-10).
     
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  25. JUAN_PRADO

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    i remeber the Head graphite comp with Victor oil filled string , i think in this moment with this racket and string i play the best tennis of my game
     
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  26. coachrick

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    Yep, the little metal 'plugs' in the ends of the string coil !!! Victor and Head oil-filled were both popular in our area. For those who wonder 'why?', the idea was to minimize the distortion of the string(stretching) by installing a non-compressible material at the core of the string(oil). Some engineer with too much time on his hands ;) . Oddly, it was a thinner gauge than some of the popular strings of the time(later '70s), so it did feel better for lot of folks who gave it a try.
     
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  27. Frankc

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    Yep - mental or not, I used the oil filled string and asked for it first. I sighed if they were out...
    Interesting about the thinner gauge... Loved it in my gold Yonex
     
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    Used my last set of UFO (grey) in my Sliver ace. 300i Dunlop 1.20 multi @ 40 pounds
     
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  29. mad dog1

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    favorite classic racquet is: Pro Kennex Black Ace (95 sq in) w/ ARCHE technology. still tinkering w/ strings.
     
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