Your most successful style/ strategy for wins in tennis?

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  1. LeeD

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    Best if you're Irish or Scot.
     
  2. TomT

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    Nice post. Let me say that I really like LeeD's posts, but from what I've seen on video so far it wouldn't be a contest. Your game, PP, seems much stronger (LeeD, post some vids of match play ... I loved your form on the serving stuff you posted).

    Now, about the 12 lbs. I recently went from 200 to 185 (I'm a little over 6 feet, and shrinking). Simply because I cut out lots of sources of sugar. No soft drinks. No sugar in the coffee. No candy (that I ate more or less obsessively). Less bread. Less carbs and more protein and veggies in general. Etc. I don't think I've lost any muscle or strength, and I do feel better. (Which might just be a function of playing more, I don't know). So, I would suggest just starting with cutting out any unnecessary sugar and carb ingestion. See where it takes you, then go from there.
     
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  3. LeeD

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    Yes, it would be an interesting match.
    PP right now can knock my socks off just hitting.
    I've never been known as a good hitter. Always been known as a good player.
    What bother's me now is high bouncers over and over again, deep and consistent, with tons of topspin. I just can't seem to beat those 5.0 players.
    What killed me last year in a couple of sets was the redirector. That style of play, dinking short and low, angled and atop the sidelines, is a style most people don't want to play against, certainly not with an injured ankle and wanting to practice hitting out on groundies, against controlled redirection.
    But most 4.0's, and most 4.5's, I can do OK against, or at least stay even.
    Would be interesting, a lefty S/V player with an solid wide slice serve vs a strong backcourt pounder with great movement.
     
  4. HunterST

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    PP, hope you don't mind me bringing up your stroke mechanics again.

    I thought, just like Cheetah did, that the stroke looked awesome up until the very finish. I think maybe the arm is a bit too stiff at the end, like you're muscling it a bit. And you do seem to have plenty of muscle.

    You think there's any truth to this?
     
  5. Power Player

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    I already fixed it. It was what cheetah said. Easy fix.
     
  6. xFullCourtTenniSx

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    I just take nearly every ball from on top or or inside the baseline, and be aggressive.

    Sadly, it's heavily reliant on maintaining practice to be successful. But it's not as reliant on being confident in my game as it used to be. If I practice as regularly as I normally look to do, then the percentages will be there to back up the confidence.

    Also, I find I do best when I have the general confidence in my forehand and overall play to come to the net often and really go down the line with my shots. The times I hit a forehand from inside the court and stay back near the baseline, going crosscourt is when I can tell I'm pushing and praying for errors. Oh, and I aim to hit a lot of forehands.

    I would love to change up the pace of the rallies more often, but I'm too set naturally to want to be aggressive so that I can be at net, at least when I'm confident or level-headed.
     
  7. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    I try to play the last 'good' shot in every rally..
     
  8. baba123

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    I play with junk, to me it annoys the opponent more to change the spin or pace rather than constantly hit the same shot
    Also I feel I'm more athletic than a lot of my opponents so probably defensive junk balling works best for me
    Followed by serve and volleying
     
  9. Hi I'm Ray

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    @ PP,

    Bit off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread: How would you describe the comfort, firmness, & power level of the BLX Blade compared to the KBlade 98 and PD2012? Have you tried the Dunlop F 3.0 Tour?
     
  10. Power Player

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    More comfort and controllable power than the PD. Plays great in stick form, and Pd needs lead.

    Haven't tried the Dunlop.
     
  11. 5263

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    Lee is right on the money here. I wouldn't worry about it, because you are
    playing excellent tennis and really looking sharp out there hitting!
    But less bulk up top would surely to some extent.
    Very nice bite to that TS.
     
  12. bad_call

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    haha...and while you're at it, grow to at least Sharapova's height. LOL
     
  13. Power Player

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    LOL right?..I told the girl I am dating that I wanted to try and drop some weight and she laughed at me and said "why???".

    So yeah, we shall see what happens there.
     
  14. mikeler

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    Stop with the desserts Power, it is all going to your rear end. :)
     
  15. LeeD

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    Yes, a girl can certainly affect/effect our entire game..:)
    I just got a crewcut in anticipation of 3 weeks in PuertoRico. She HATES it, really despises it. I've had long hair, down past my collar for 5 years. I love it, LOVE it.
    Now realize, her Dad, her brother, her brother in law, all their boy cousins, ALL have short crewcuts.
    I can't win for losing.:oops:
     
  16. lodeen

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    Dude, try rollerblading! :)
     
  17. Hi I'm Ray

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    Alright, thanks.
     
  18. TomT

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    From your vids it doesn't seem to me that you need to lose any weight. But I don't think that losing a few pounds would negatively affect your game, and might even help.
     
  19. LeeD

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    Interesting wording there, TomT.
    Just WHAT are you really trying to say?
    You did cover both camps in one post, so does it mean you're undecided or non commital?
     
  20. TheCheese

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    I think he has a future in politics.

    One thing about PP's video. What's the original aspect ratio on the clips? It looks like it might be a little stretched, possibly adding to the comments about him needing to drop excess muscle.
     
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  21. LeeD

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    If he was fighting MMA, I think he has a chance of beating every single one of us....especially me.
    But all this talk and TENNIS practice, he would cover another 18" in all directions AND recover quicker with a muscle mass drop in the upper body. Keep the legs strong.
    And spring up another 2" on every serve, increasing the strike point height, to get more faster serves IN.
     
  22. Greg G

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    I think we're reading waaay too much about PP from just one video. Could you upload the rollerblading pics? :)
     
  23. TomT

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    See above.

    I'm in the "I don't think PP needs to lose any weight, but that if he did I don't think it would hurt his game and might even help" ... camp. :)
     
  24. Mick

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    i know this one guy, a tennis coach. his strategy for wins in tennis is to only play against people he knows for sure he can beat :shock: :)
     
  25. Power Player

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    Cant really disagree that it would be cool to see what happens if i did that. The next question is -how? Just stop lifting? Im pretty much just doing pushups now.
     
  26. TomT

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    What LeeD suggests makes sense to me. You look much more muscular and husky than would seem to be optimal for tennis. How to eventually optimize your body for tennis? Basically, stop lifting weights and get most all your exercise from practicing and playing tennis would be my guess. Your (tennis-nonessential) bulk isn't going to go away overnight, but by focusing on tennis, and cutting out sugar and excess carbs it would seem that you would steadily evolve toward your best tennis body. The muscle mass you need for tennis will remain, while what you don't need for tennis will slowly but steadily decrease. Or maybe not. Who knows? Maybe this is your optimum tennis body. But, as Chuck Norris would say, there's only one way to find out. Either way, you will be on the path to becoming a true tennis monster. :)

    That's my goal as well. No refined sugar. No Suzy Q's. No pancakes with syrup. Less fruit and fruit juices. Etc. Etc. Although, I have decided to keep beer in my daily regimen. (It seemed to work for the Aussies.) I'm fluctuating between 185 and 190 now. Down from 200-205. The goal is to fluctuate between 170 and 175.
     
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  27. TomT

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    Excellent point, imo. I love rollerblading vids. Plus, more tennis vids is always a good idea in a tennis tips and instruction forum. :)
     
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  28. Mick3391

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    Progressive serve and volley. When I say "Progressive", I don't mean serve then hit the net, but progressively work my way up with flat, top, and slice when needed.

    Serve and Volley is making a comeback!!!!!!! You'll see! I was so thrilled with this Sampras interview I heard the other day, they asked "How would you play today in this era of hard hitting baseliners", he said "I only have one gear", they said "Yea, but they have bigger racquets and more powerful strings", Sampras said "So would I, when I see a guy stay back I lick my chops".

    I'm probably wrong, but I prefer playing aggressive, ending points quick, shooting a guy where he's not. Man today I played after almost stopping from injuries and did great, played my 6.1 90 and it was like oh just wonderful! Love this sport.
     
  29. bad_call

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    wow...next would be change your genetic makeup. lol

    can imagine comments from those after posting a vid of myself would be "stop moving like an old man"...dude - i would if i could but guess what. lol
     
  30. Mick3391

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    Hey TomT are you feeling better? You had some problems before.

    I just want to share with you this last year was one injury after another for me, the last straw was, by the way you diagnosed it right, Golfers elbow for Tennis! It was so bad it hurt to lift the racquet, heh it hurt to dry my hair with a towel, ALL THE TIME. I couldn't hit well (I just played through the pain).

    Listen, I conned my doc into giving me 500IU HCG shots. They are NOT DANGEROUS, they naturally increase Testosterone, I am PAIN FREE, my arm is a normal arm, I can play, today I played tops, could do anything I wanted without that fear of some weird pain shooting somewhere through my body. Try it, you need a prescription now because it works, not for the stupid diet, just for restoring your testosterone to how it was, and it's my understanding Testosterone heals these injuries, rebuilds it if you will. My elbow as you said was in a degenerative state, only gets worse, but it's built up, I can swing as hard as ever, no weakness, heh it's given me back my sport.

    I swelled up to 236, which is not really fat for me, but heavy, I'm 6'1" and have alot of muscle, especially in my legs, so now I'm back to a normal 220 or so, mainly water and glycogin loss, but man I feel AWESOME, you GOT to try it.
     
  31. TomT

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    Watched a vid last night of a match between Connors and McEnroe. 1995 Pebble Beach. Connors 43 yrs, Mac 36 yrs. The points were fantastic to watch. Definitely what you're talking about with progressive serve and volley.

    Love that comment by Sampras. Have to believe his style, played by a top form Sampras, would kick butt in today's game.
     
  32. TomT

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    I'm glad to hear that you found a remedy and are feeling and playing great Mick. Yeah, I'm sure I could use a testosterone boost, but it's not likely to happen. I use the VA medical services and I'm pretty sure they're not going to give me a script so I can play tennis better. :) Just gonna have to do it the old fashioned way. My wrist is better but still sore. Legs slowly getting stronger. Glad for your recovery. Post some vids. :)
     

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