YULitle Guide to String Tools

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  1. diredesire

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    I sure ain't YULitle, but:

    I think you answered your own question: They are not the same thing.

    A setting off awl specifically has a thick shaft, and a blunt, rounded end. The string mover tool has a hook to provide more leverage. The setting off awl can be used to quickly stab at the string bed (for lack of a better description), whereas the hook is most often used to pull a single string. Neither of these are really necessary for the vast majority of stringers out there, and for my work flow, would be more of a hassle to use rather than not.
     
  2. ryangoring

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    Thank you diredesire and YUlitle for your answers.
    I am noob at this and bought both with out asking first. I could have saved some money.
     
  3. ryangoring

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    YULitle, I hope you don't mind me sharing these images of these flying clamps.

    Here is the stringway 3 way clamp:
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    And the new Eagnas flying clamp. Spring assisted. A bit bulky, but effective never the less!
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  4. YULitle

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    I've seen the 3-way before, and it's supposed to be rather awesome. :D

    That Eagnas looks really sharp. Does it work well?
     
  5. diredesire

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    Is that a badminton specific clamp? Looks to me like the clamping force would be a little low...

    Looks pretty cool though ;)
     
  6. ryangoring

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    Diredesire the clamps are the tennis clamps. They are solid and the springs are strong. This seems like a good product from them. I'll get back to you and yulitle about the ease of use or the pain in the ass it is to use when I get my stringer in.
     
  7. diredesire

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    Sweet, keep me posted.

    Is the clamp relatively difficult to open? If so, I'd probably have to avoid them, I have weak wrists and a bum shoulder ;P (Probably carpal tunnel from posting here too much...)
     
  8. ryangoring

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    Sorry to hear about your condition to your arm, but to me it is kinda easy to open, but keep in mind that the tension string can make the difference here. If it is too loose that the strings may move, it should easier, but if the string is taut, it maybe it might not be easier to open for some.

    But I haven't tried it out as yet, and secondly I'm a noob to stringing. lol. :)
    Watching YULitle videos and Almericko on youtube should make it easier for me to string and I be more confident in my findings of the Eagnas clamp.
     
  9. Tenniscoach009

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    Where can I find a tennis string counter that can help me measure out string from a reel?
     
  10. Tenniscoach009

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    Anyone hear about the so-sap stringing technique?
     
  11. ryangoring

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    I strung a racket last night and I must say that these Eagnas clamps work really great. No slipping, easy to adjust, one hand operation. When doing the crosses you have to maneuver the clamp to fit or clamp on both strings. But other than that these clamps are very good to use.
     
  12. YULitle

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    ^^^^ I'd be concerned with getting my finger caught in the spring. It's in perfect position to catch the skin flap between your thumb and index finger.
     
  13. andtapes

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    I am looking for this too
     
  14. YULitle

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    They exist as auxiliary functions on high-end machines, but I've yet to see one by itself.
     
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    Never thought about it until now.......:shock:
    I'd be careful next time. But they do work great!
    Chalk one up for Eagnas
     
  16. Luminous

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    Excellent thread YULite. Thanks:)
     
  17. ryangoring

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    Stupid question here:
    how the &^%$ do you use a tension calibrator? i have a drop weight.
    any help would be appreciated.
    thanks
     
  18. YULitle

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    Typically a calibrator has two sides. You attach one side to the machine (how you do this depends on what type of calibrator you have) and you pull the other side with the tensioner. If the calibrator reads the tension you set it to pull, assuming your calibrator is calibrated, you are set. If it isn't, you need to make an adjustment. An adjustment on a drop-weight would involve moving the scale or just making a mental note to adjust the tension accordingly.
     
  19. Mansewerz

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    How do you know if a calibrator is able to be calibrated?
     
  20. ryangoring

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    Thanks YULitle!
     
  21. Zhou

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    Well I believe it is also a mental note for the spring calibrators using like a dumbbell for testing purposes as a known measurement.
     
  22. YULitle

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    You can hang a known weight from it attached to some hard-point. Make sure that it's a known weight. People have used postal scales to be sure that their weight is what is written on the side.
     
  23. Mansewerz

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    And if the calibrator is off, then what?

    Also, where is the calibration screw for the prince neos?
     
  24. YULitle

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    There is a way to adjust the calibrator. You have to take it apart and adjust the bolt at the end of the sprint.

    It's supposed to be under the catch, but I had a guy have trouble finding it. Recently I heard of someone just adjusting the tension knob. There is a small set screw on the tension knob. I suggest finding a way to adjust the catch.
     
  25. Mansewerz

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    Catch? You mean the lever that pops out when tension is reached? Does the cover of the tensioner have to be removed?
     
  26. YULitle

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    The catch is the black "hook" that holds the lever in place before the desired tension is reached.
     
  27. Mansewerz

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    Oh I found it. Which way do I turn the screw to tighten/loosen. Also, do I pull tension, lockout, read tension, then adjust, and repeat the process until I get the acquired tension? Or do I pull tension, lockout, adjust until the right tension is reached?
     
  28. YULitle

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    You need to release the tension before you adjust. Then pull tension again.
     
  29. Mansewerz

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    I see. Which way is tighten/loosen (CW or CCW?)
     
  30. YULitle

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    Check and see. I think that it's CW for too loose and CCW for too tight. You'll find out for yourself fairly quick enough. :D ;)
     
  31. Mansewerz

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    Cool. Now to get a fish scale. After just cleaning the machine, it was really smooth.
     
  32. drakulie

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    Yulitle, where does one purchase the babolat starting clamps??? or babolat tools???

    thanks in advance.
     
  33. YULitle

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    You call Babolat directly.

    I think this is their number
    (303) 444-2088
     
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    ^^You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

    BTW, my girlfriend loves the "thank you", at the end of your videos. :)
     
  35. mikeler

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    The age old "righty tighty, lefty loosey".
     
  36. ryangoring

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    what's the next step after calibration?

    Tension Calibrator
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    This tool is essential for all stringers. It allows you to check your machines calibration. ALL machines should be checked for calibration, but drop weights only need theirs checked once. Crank machine owners should check theirs' often (about every 25-30 racquets.) And Electric machine owners should check theirs' about every 200 racquets. This doesn't mean that the machine needs to be adjusted that many times, just that it should be checked. Adjustments to this schedule can be made the more you get to know the eccentricities of your machine.
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    ok. I understand the importance of having this tool. If we do check our crank machines about every 25-30 racquets and find that the tension is getting to be quite inaccurate, what is the next step?
    I'd love to see a video that explains how to use the calibrator and then if needed, how to fix the tension head so that it is a little bit more accurate.

    thanks.
     
  38. YULitle

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    ^^^ That is dependent on the machine you're using and instructions should come with your machine on how to do it for your specific machine.
     
  39. Marc The Shark

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    Quick question for YULitle... I have a gamma Progression STII and as far as calibration goes I was wondering since once the crank locks out at a certain tension the tension drops... I was thinking that instead of stringing 10% higher than I usually would, what if I calibrated the machine to the tension after the "lock out".. ex. When I set it to 60 once the mechanism locks it drops to 54. So could I set 54 to 60? I hope this makes sense to you cause its kinda hard for me to explain it by writing.
     
  40. jim e

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    That will not be the same for each string as different strings stretch at a different amount,( a ploy will not stretch the same as nat. gut for instance) as well as different size racquets as well, will effect the stretch. That is why the USRSA has a calculator for this difference, but the 10% gets you in the ballpark for the difference between a constant pull and lock out..

    Another way to put it is:
    Different string materials and constructions, and different racquet head sizes, will require different amounts of compensation to match the stringbed stiffness produced by a constant-pull machine to that produced by a lockout machine
     
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  41. Mansewerz

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    YULitle, what have you been up to? There's a teacher at my school that looks just like you! Haha.
     
  42. YULitle

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    Well, unless you go to school in Goodwell, OK, then I doubt that it was me. :D
     
  43. Mansewerz

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    Nope. Plus he had gray hair, so I had a feeling it wasn't you.
     
  44. arex

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    Dear friends,
    Lately, I have been doing some research across various internet forums of tennis fans and people who work in the field (e.g restringing racquets), I was amazed by the vast amount of complaints and dissatisfaction of people who encounter the task of restringing of prince racqets such as O3, SpeedPort, EX03 for tennis and for squash, The reason for that is the usage of house tools such as scrwdrivers, pens, and surprisingly even their own hip! This happens due to the fact that the especially designed tool for the task – Boomerang is not to be found in every stringers toolbox, the boomerang is not universal, that is, doesn’t fit to every racqet, and lastly, To use it properly one has to be skillfull and proficient in order to elicit maximum effect. Naturaly, I decided to help those people, Given the fact that I myself as a veteran stringer (more than 5 years of experience) have faced the same problem over the years. I started thinking about a solution, which eventually came to me as a perfect idea for a universal tool, that will undoubtly address all possible problems of stringing of prince racqets such as O3, SpeedPort, EX03 for tennis and for squash including the stringing of the last string in SpeedPort raquets. I have constructed a ptototype of the tool and using it on daily basis, it’s easy to use for a novice, fits to any racqet in the market,

    Kind regards
    Arex

    Unfortunately, I am not allowed to post an attachment.I can send it individually to everyone interested. azarembo@gmail.com
     
  45. DownTheLine

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    Whats the difference between floating clamps and fixed clamps? Plus, if I would buy a gamma progression 2 does it have a starting clamp?
     
  46. YULitle

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    Floating clamps float. Fixed clamps are fixed to the table.

    Floating clamps use an adjacent string to anchor itself. Fixed clamps use a latch on the table to anchor itself.


    No, it will not have a starting clamp.
     
  47. DownTheLine

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    Do I need a starting clamp? What one is better floating or fixed clamps?
     
  48. kkm

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    From the beginning of this thread by YULitle, the starting clamp sold by Alpha now is not the same RAB clamp sold on GSS? BTW who else, besides, GSS, sells the RAB starting clamp?

    The Gamma clamp sold on TW looks just like the Alpha/RAB/GSS clamp...is it the same?
     
  49. ilikephobo

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    hey yulittle.

    watching your videos helped me learn a lot about stringing.
    i can finish mains now.. however i cant start my crosses because i dont have a starting clamp. is there any way around this or is there any substitution for a starting clamp. even though i know a starting clamp is pretty cheap.
     
  50. kchau

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    you dont need a starting clamp

    what are you trying to do
     

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