ZOMG!! Lunarlite Vapor falling apart!!!

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  1. zasr4325

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    So got home from practice last night, and noticed something strange. On the outside of the shoe, the upper is coming away from the sole. It's right between the blue glittery lunarlite and the upper where it's just started to separate. Got the shoes back in December, but I alternate them quite a bit, and didn't wear them for all of January and most of February (went abroad and didn't take them) so they probably only have around 20-30 hours on them. I can't post a picture at the moment, but when I get home I will. I was wondering if any other peeps had this problem, and if you think the Nike store will do anything about it?

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    Btw, sorry about the awkward picture - was the best I could do on the iPad.
     
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    Return for new pair, ie 2K10. or full refund
     
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  3. Darth Federer

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    yeah it happened to me too
    just glue it or something
     
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    Yeah, I've got some shoogoo I can use, but I've heard mythical tales of people exchanging them for new pairs. I guess I'm just being cheap.
     
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    That's exactly what happened to my pair. I just gave up on them :mad: Nike Tennis's quality control gets awful. Lunar Vapor is an epic failure and I wonder if there's any report of Lunar Vapor 8 having similar issues. Bring Vapor 5 with Zoom Air on the heel!
     
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  6. lidoazndiabloboi

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    i have that exact same pair and its done the same thing. i just used a little super glue and it hasnt happened since. not sure what Nike store would do, its worth a shot.
     
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  7. your name

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    Yep, same thing happened with me. Nothing a bit of super glue cant fix!
     
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    Nike products are substandard so people really need to stop buying them until they get the message that it's their job to glue the things together properly.
     
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  9. Bobby Jr

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    Exactly the same issue here - bought in August last year.. I used them alternating with another pair of shoes and they literally started to split along the same area from the 3rd of 4th use. From there they just got worse and worse. I don't believe in glueing shoes which are effectively 3 months old - they should be replaced or refunded. Screw buying shoes intended for a sport like tennis and having them fall apart so fast...

    I arranged with Nike service to check them out (last Friday in fact) and they have said that there appears to be a glue issue (the glue isn't right for that upper material). They said in cases of clear fabrication or materials defect Nike replaces with similar/like shoes no matter where or when you bought the shoes (I bought mine in HK but sent them back in Australia).

    My advice would be to do this. Worst case scenario they say 'nope' and courier them back to you. They pay for the courier each way so the only cost to you is the time you spend without the shoes - they say they try to make the decision in 4-5 days of receiving them.

    I have a pair of Vapor 8s on their way but from the look of it they are the same upper material and same sole so hope they've found a new glue this time around.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the feedback, although its not exactly good on Nike's part that the majority seem to be having this issue. Bobby Jr. did they replace yours after the inspection then? If so, then at least there is some hope there. I'll definitely look into sending them back to Nike, as its more to do with the fact that I haven't really worn the shoes that much and yet they start to break after only a few months play. Would anyone know exactly what is involved in sending the shoes back to Nike? I'm in Dubai at the moment, so would there be any addresses on the Nike website to send to? And do you think going to a Nike retailer would be of any help? At least they might have the correct shipping address, or some more information on the matter.
     
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    Some pickchures of the separations:
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    And the other side:
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    honestly, I used to wear everything Nike, and their shoes are crap. at one point, I had 3 pairs of 2.3's in different colors, but all the same size, and EACH ONE fit differently! it was ridiculous. Nike is all about profit and flash.
     
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    Completely agree. I went thru quite a few pairs of Nike, their cushioning would go flat quickly, the padding on the tongue is usually garbage, their "Ortholite" liner is a joke, might as well put a printed sheet of paper instead. Adidas, Asics even Prince much, much higher quality of materials and construction.
    Nike is all about paying athletes and selling on their "image" marketing. Their shoes are cheaply made and the lowest quality of what is out there, at least in my experience.
    Not only tennis, their golf shoes are low quality as well, just the worst leather of any of the options out there.
    All of their shoes are going to Lunarlon, not because Lunarlon is any better, but becuase it is a tremendous cost savings in materials and manufacturing. Wiht Lunarlon they don't have to layer different EVAs or use the air pocket components, just a single piece of Lunarlon is all they are using. Buyer beware.
     
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  14. anhuynh16

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    i agree, nikes quality is going down evry year. compare the vapor 5 or 6 with the 7 or 8 5 and 6 MUCH better quality
     
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    They haven't decided yet. They got picked up last Friday after I spoke to their service centre person. He said it sounded like a good case. I should know within a week (4-5 working days is their aim usually)

    Regarding the photos you posted. sole/upper wear looks about the same as mine (minimal) but the splitting on mine went from like that to much, much worse within only a few more hours of wear.

    Dubia seems to have an office.

    Try one of these stores and ask what to do:
    • Nike - Dubai Marina Mall, Doha Street, Dubai. Phone 00971 4 434 2683

      [*]Nike store - Mall of the Emirates, Dubai. Phone +971 4 3410933

    Nike's service system usually works like this: you call and they arrange courier to pick them up. They then take a week to decide and then let you know the result. If they decide there is an issue you don't get them back - they offer replacement (not possible now as they're last seasons) or a comparable newer model.

    Go to the Nike website where you are and they'll have a contact number. (even if it just relays you to an overseas service centre - doesn't matter)
     
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    I dunno bout that. My black Vapor VI's got this bubble thing all over the shoes after only a few hours play, and they were so stiff all the time. Break in period was long and if they weren't used every day then they got back to their stiff state. But I have weird feet, so could have been just me. I've actually found the Lunars to be much more comfy, and they're wide enough to accommodate my caveman feet, just a shame about their durability.
    Thanks very much for this! I'll give the MOE store a call today and see what they say. I might wear the shoes one more time tonight, just to see how bad it might get, and then I'll try and take them in.
    Something similar happened once ages ago with a football shirt of mine (Barcelona). I had this little 'pull' in the material (you know when a thread gets caught and then pulls out, leaving you with like a White dotted line) and I got quite upset as I was always uber protective of my things. So my dad helps me write this letter to Nike (I think we sent it to Nike Europe in Holland), and within about two weeks I get a letter back from Nike apologising for the issue, along with a brand new shirt! I couldn't believe it, as even I was skeptical about them doing anything with this shirt that had, at worst, a teeny little pull in it that could easily have been the customer's fault. So they might have the odd problem here and there, but I do think Nike try to help the customer when they can.
     
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    This happened to me too but I experienced it on the other side! The part where all of you are complaining about is ok. The (side guard?) is coming off madly!
     
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    I, too, am having similar issues with my pair. For those that replaced the shoes, was there a number you called or did you go to your nearest Nike store?

    The next tennis shoes I'll be buying are Asics. I think I may be done with Nike shoes for the moment.
     
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    I love the CB 2.3, never had any problem with them, they feel great, no glue needed. I never like the look of those Vapors, they look cheap and Roger never wore them either, his were clearly modified. Ballistecs are fantastic though, i have four pairs right now.
     
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    Yeah, my side-guard is coming away from the upper material also. So much so that, because it's on a flexion point of the shoe, it kinks annoyingly when you walk.

    This is obviously a gluing issue. the upper coming away from both the sole and the inside wear guard - it's got to be either wrong glue or not enough of it. Either way, seriously lame quality from Nike.
     
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    I just bought a pair of the gold ones for $35 but they seem to hold out well. But seem like when i stop my feet will fly out of the shoe. It just feals like it.
     
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    I called today and they said the shoes had been assessed as faulty and they would replace them.

    ...Except they have no Vapor 8s available (they are all pre-sold and they hold no stock) and won't know whether they will get any available for at least 3 months, and even then maybe not in my size. Their offer was the CB 3.3 in the Aussie Open colourway (grey with red trim).

    Should I take the offer? If I say no I could end up with no tennis shoes for months. Advice? I generally steer clear of any Nike's with exposed air sole as they always end up squeaking - which is annoying as hell imo.
     
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    That's great! If I was you I'd take them. Unless that is you prefer the wider fitting vapors? I'm not sure but I think certain peeps have found the 3.3s to be slightly narrow fitting. After hearing of your success, I've decided to give it a shot with mine. Although, did you do it through the Nike store directly? As in did they organise the shipping and everything after you gave them the shoes? Or did they just pay for the courier? Only because I wanted to know if I need to write a cover letter that explains the situation, or just explain it to the Nike people and they forward the shoes with a standard complaint of "defective product" or something similar. And did you have the receipt for the shoes? I've looked for mine but can't find it anywhere, only thing I have is the box, which does seem to have a unique number on it as well as the barcode. Just wanted to know what process you went through to do it.
    Cheers buddy
     
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    Ta... what I think I'll do is go and try the CB3.3s on in a store first then decide. Lucky I thought of that and told him to not send them until I called them back.

    OK. I didn't do mine via a Nike store - I literally went the local Nike website portal, found the service centre phone number and called it. I explained my issue and they arranged for the courier to pick them up the next day. No cost to me at all.

    I did include a cover letter (message me and I'll send you what I wrote as a starting point).

    I didn't buy them from a Nike shop nor did I even have a receipt for them. I did however let them know the store and the date.
     
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    Hey all, I'm about to purchase a pair of Thorlo level 3 and is wondering that are they that thick which makes you go up half a size? I have a Vapor 7 that's true to my size but the fit is a little baggy so I'm wondering if the Level 3'd not just compensate it but even overkill and make me have to cramp in. Thanks in advance!
     
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    Well at least that way you can find out the fit before getting them and realising theyre wrong. I tried finding a number for my area, but the only thing on the Nike website was a number for the "regional office" of Europe, middle east and Africa, in Netherlands. I called, and obviously due to time difference they were closed, so instead I called the Nike store that originally sold me the shoes. Girl I spoke to initially was a little apprehensive, and asked for the receipt, but after I informed her that the shoes had very little use, were breaking apart and that really I was trying to make a complaint, she said to bring them in and the manager would assess the situation. Then after that they could send it to some Nike office and have them sort it out from there. So I'll probably take the shoes in tomorrow, and see how it goes from there. I also asked her whether this type of thing had happened before, and she said it had, but with running shoes. So at least there's some positivity there.
     
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    yeah! It kinks like hell now. The only problem is I love the Vapor 7 so much. I actually stopped using CB 2.3s now. I can't afford the Vapor 8 yet cuz they're $160 here....
     
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    Have just been to a store to try these on and WOW.. I wear 9us Vapors and almost couldn't even get my foot into a size 9 CB3.3. I don't think I have particularly wide feet but the whole toe box is miles smaller. I tried the 9.5 and they're much better but probably comfort-wise still tighter than the 9 Vapor.

    How on earth can they get their sizes so different from each other?
     
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    I found that particularly bad in the Vapor VIs. They were basically unwearable after some time as they seemed to get tighter around my feet the more I played. I wear a 9.5UK (10.5US), and the disparity is apparent especially going from lunarlites to 2k10s to 2.3s. Although it's not that bad, and I stick with a 9.5uk in all of them. But I've yet to try the 3.3s, so not sure what I'd do there.
    Just thought I'd let you know that I took the shoes back to the Nike store I got them from (I couldn't speak to any kind of service centre over the phone so had to take them in) and the manager immediately said it looks defective, and that they'll send them to the regional HQ to be assessed. He said it'll take about 4-5 working days, so sounds similar to your situation. Another thing he said, is that if the shoes are defective, they'll give me a replacement pair, but it sounded like it would only be for the amount I paid at the time (roughly half price as they were clearance at the end of last year), and not just the new V8s. Or if they didn't have them in stock, they'd give me credit to the amount the shoes were worth in the system. I guess I'm being cheap, but I expected them to just give me a replacement, no matter which model it was.
     
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    How to do you know if their is a warranty on the shoe or not?
     
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    Just thought I'd bump this to let everyone know that Nike said there was a definite manufacturing defect in the shoes, and that when they get back to the store on Sunday I could pick out a new pair.
    With Bobby also experiencing similar problems with his pair, there must have been something wrong with the glue Nike used for the French Open '10 colourway.
     
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    I agree Zars4325. They didn't say so much to me but didn't disagree when I suggested the FO colourway was a common culprit. I know another person with the same issue on theirs who is about to return them too.

    But... Look what showed up yesterday. After offering me the CB3.3 because these weren't available I asked nicely if they could check around and that I was happy to wait.... They even gave me a $50 voucher as well for the hassle.
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    That's awesome! Im hoping they let me take one of the new V8 home, as the first time I spoke to the store manager he seemed to be saying I could only get a shoe that was equivalent to the value in their system, which would only be the half price value I paid for it. But after I spoke to him today, he just said that I could come in and pick whichever I wanted, even saying they had the new collections in so there would be a lot of choice!
    Apart from the obvious problem in the beginning, I think Nike have handled this pretty well. I'll "report back" on Sunday after I see the store.
     
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    Nike's policy is to replace with a comparable shoe. The price you paid should not be relevant because they are replacing a faulty product - they shouldn't downgrade your shoe.
     
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    What an absolute sham. I got to the store yesterday at 2:00, thinking this gives me enough time as I'm meeting friends for a movie in the same mall at 3. I didn't even leave the store until 3:05.

    First thing I tell them as I walk in, is that I was told to come to the store, as my shoes had been sent back with Nike saying they were defective, and that I could pick out a new pair.

    So the store manager's assistant comes out to help, and asks me which shoes I'd like. I saw they had the latest V8s in the blue colourway, so I said "I'll take those in UK 9.5.". The guy says, "sure no problem, let me just check how much your shoes are worth, and then you can pay the difference if need be.". At this point I did a double take, and said "What? Why should I have to pay the difference? The shoes were defective, so you should replace them with a new pair.". The guy replies "No. Because we no longer stock your shoes, we would replace them with a pair that's the same price, or you pay the difference for a new pair.", to which I replied "But because you no longer stock my shoe, you should give me whichever is the comparable newer model, as it's not my fault the shoes were defective and you no longer stock my shoes!".

    Anyway, this went on for ages, and when the manager came out from a meeting, he basically said the same thing. That because they no longer stocked my shoe, the only thing they could offer was a shoe that was comparable in price; basically the takedowns of the new vapors or 3.3s. He also kept saying that company policy in this region was to offer a warranty, not a guarantee; he said it meant he could give me refund, but not a replacement pair of shoes.

    I could see he really wasn't going to budge in this, so I asked him if I could at least have the US Open colourway Lunarlites the also had there (the same shoes as mine, just different colour), which were still more than the price of my shoes. Another story in itself - for some reason, Dubai thinks they can charge 615AED for the new vapor tours AND the OLDER CB 2.3s (around £103 or $170 and that's not AUS, that's US!), and also 420AED for the older Lunarlite US Open colourway (£70 or $114), when I had bought my FO colourways for 299AED in the sales over Xmas.

    But even then the guy said no, because the price of the US vapors was more than I paid for mine, I would have to pay the difference. This basically continued for an hour, with me saying that I wouldn't pay the difference, until finally he said the only thing he could do was to give me his 20% employee discount on the US Open colour vapors, which would mean I'd have to pay about 36AED (£6 or $10) more to get them. Clearly not ideal, but at least it's something.

    I know it seems like I'm being a cheapskate, but I really felt like they should have done something more than just a refund for a clearly defective shoe. Maybe it was a bit unreasonable to ask for the latest vapors, but the least they could have done was give me the older Lunarlites in exchange for my faulty pair.

    It was just such a bad experience in all. The manager too, kept making it seem as if he'd really gone out on a limb to help me, because I didn't have a receipt, and usually company policy means I have to give a receipt with the shoes. Of course, absolute BS - I said if I only bought the shoes back in December, hardly used them at all, and then it turns out even Nike think they're defective, what other option is there than to replace them? If the store has sold me defective shoes, I should get a comparable new pair, no matter the price, as its Nike's fault. And his reply? And by this time he was getting annoyed with me, and was starting to ramble a bit, "Well you used them for four months, got good use out of them, and now return them. You used them a lot, but if they were defective, and so bad, nobody forced you to buy them." Really? REALLY?

    Probably one of the most frustrating experiences with a retailer I've ever had. I'm gonna give Nike the benefit of the doubt here, and place the blame on Dubai here, as this kind of cowboy crap is fairly commonplace here. They did offer me my money back, and I know another store that's selling the blue and white 2K10s super cheap, so I'm going to ask for the money back and just get those instead. At least I'll get to keep some of my money, as the 2K10s are only 240AED (40GBP or $65). They also didn't have my size in the US Open vapors, so they said they would have to bring them from another store, which would take some time, and blah blah blah crap. I might even ask if I can take my old broken shoes back and send them to Nike UK, as I'll be back in England in May. Maybe I'll get better service there at least.
     
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    Firstly, hey - at least you got some new shoes for cheap. It's a result.

    They are wrong according to Nike's own policy. A faulty product is entirely their fault, not yours.

    That said, almost any Nike product you buy will no longer be made within a matter of months - far less time than an acceptable length of use by most people's use level. So of course they no longer stock your shoe - Doh!

    Yes, he's interpreted Nike's intentions wrongly - they are supposed to offer you a comparable shoe to the model you returned - the price cannot be the criteria for the simple reason that their global policy is to replace products manufactured wrongly. You didn't wear the shoes out, they were made wrong.

    The reason they say they offer a comparable replacement if obvious - because in many cases the product you originally bought will no longer be available.

    Even then, the price of a comparable product creeps up by 2-5% every year too.

    Your mistake was in telling them how much you paid for the shoes. That is irrelevant in theory - the only relevant point you bought a legitimate Nike product which was made poorly. It doesn't matter if they were $5 - they made (and/or designed) them incorrectly.

    The only evidence they need of purchase is you holding the shoes. Short of them claiming they're fakes their policy is to replace faulty goods with the current like model regardless of where they were bought. Even if the mid-east has slightly different rules (some policies there are not possible by local laws) they should honour Nike's pledge which is on their global website as a show of respect to a longtime customer (who has bought two pairs of tennis shoes per year for the last ten years).

    Seriously? What cheek and what a terrible attitude to take. You bought one of their top product ranges and it was defective - they have inconvenienced you, not the other way around. (to be honest, I'm not surprised you got this attitude in Dubai)

    If you're cheesed fire me a message. We'll sort a way to get your 36AED back or some other concession.
     
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    Thanks for the prompt reply. I actually went back to the store today, and (as I hadn't paid for the new shoes yet because they were being sent from another store) asked for my money back. There was a supervisor there instead of the manager, and I had to re-explain the whole situation to him to bring him up to speed. He does the whole useless "Let me help you, I will solve all your problems!" spiel, after which he comes to the same conclusion that the manager comes to, that I would still have to pay 36AED to get those US Open Vapors. Obviously, 36dhs is basically nothing but, call me old fashioned (please don't; I'm only 18!) it was the principle of paying for something that I felt wasn't may fault that lead me to ask for the money back instead. Also, I never actually told him how much I paid for the shoes. He went to their computer and looked up the price of the shoes, and then told me how much they were worth, which I didn't deny. Anyway, after getting the money back, I found another Nike store in a different mall, and picked up these for only 295AED (£50 or $65), which meant I had basically the same shoes as they were offering for a much better price. Not a huge fan of the colour but it was a good price and I do like the shoes so no biggie.
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    So feel a bit better about everything now. But suffice it to say, I am not going to be visiting that store anytime soon.
     
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    This was a Niketown store?
     
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    No, although the way it works is a bit strange. In Dubai, they have this retailer called Sun and Sand sports, which has the license (? Whatever it is that allows them to sell the stuff) to sell Nike, Timberland and Columbia stuff, amongst other brands. What they usually do is have the general Sun and Sand sports store selling the other brands like Adidas, Puma, Umbro, etc. along with tennis racquets, strings, and general sports crap. Then they'll give the bigger brands like Nike, T'land and Columbia their own standalone stores next door. So whilst the store may have an enormous Nike swoosh on the front, and seem like a dedicated store, it will in fact be owned chiefly by Sun and Sand sports. And they're always inter connected, so you can go from the general store to the Nike specific store, which kinda shows they're all one and the same. Also, when I asked the store manager about Nike's policy on my shoes, he said that they weren't actually Nike, just the retailers for them, which is why their policy might e different. I'll try and get a picture to show you what I mean, because it's really obvious when you see it in person.
    I'm thinking of sending this whole story to Nike when I get back to the UK, and just asking them if I was in the wrong, and what they would have done if I had gone to them with the defective shoes.

    BONUS:
    my GHOATs getting used to the N00B:
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    And a pretty nice touch with the Swiss Sockliner, which wasn't on my old French open ones:
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    I think this is standard now, and they've also put it on the V8 toe guard.
     
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    When did you buy yours. I would like to try and see if I can get mine replaced also but I bought mine when they were released. Do you think they would give me a problem?
     
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    I bought mine in like August last year.

    The key elements of a successful approach are the same as any return - don't be ambiguous about anything - that will leave them more openings to poke holes in your claim.

    Tell them:
    • you used the shoes for approx 25 hours (or another number) on hard courts
    • you used them for nothing other than tennis
    • they started splitting within the first X hours
    • you bought their top of the range shoe because of Nike's reputation and the previous models you bought all lasted over a year (or some significantly higher factor than the ones your returning)
    As well as:
    • tennis is hard on shoes so it is totally reasonable to expect top of the range tennis shoes to last for 50+ hours. (remember that's as little as 25 matches.. Playing twice a week that is only just over 3 months = not good enough imo)
    • surely the soles of the shoe should be worn through before the glue ever comes undone.
    • you have seen online in customer reviews that this is not an uncommon issue in this model

    In your particular case where they're a year old you should make it clear that they started splitting and eventually you couldn't wear them - it was unsafe. Remember a faulty good is still faulty whether it is 1 week or 2 year old. Nike's policy is to replace goods which were manufactured incorrectly - not which simply wore out too quickly.

    Put all of this into a letter (even if you're just going to talk to them on the phone - that way you have your points listed and wont forget any) and include it with your shoes when you send them back.

    Approaching it like this covering it in detail means the only way they can reject your claim is by basically accusing you of lying - which I very much doubt they would do.
     
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  42. aenri86

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    Thanks for the help!! Talked to them and they gave me a claim number. Already sent them! Now wait and see what happens! :)
     
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    Got my voucher in the mail today! $120. @Bobby Jr. thnx for your help! :)

    Now I don't know which shoe to buy... Vapors 8 in White/Stealth/Grey or Silver/Black... :S What do you guys think?
     
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    That's awesome! Although I have to say I'm a tad jealous you guys got vouchers, while I only got money back. But I do like my Wimby Vapor 7s so its all good :)
    Personally, I prefer the White/Stealth Vapors, as IMO they look a bit more understated, and they don't have that "8" on the back. The silver ones look a bit chintzy to me. Can you get any other colours, or just the white or silver ones?
     
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  45. aenri86

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    I already have the Yellow Vapor 8... Was thinking about those two because they match my team tennis shirt since the shirt is green... Thought about the green CB 3.3 but didn't like the fit and bulkiness of them...
     
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  46. Bobby Jr

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    Nice one. Glad it worked out for you.

    I've gotta say, my V8 (in the white/yellow colorways) seems to be markedly improved shoes over the V7 based on about 6-8 hours hitting time. The heel support is miles better - you can feel a hardened plastic shell on the inside of the heel which the V7 was missing. Also, I prefer this lacing system.

    Now... only a few months left to see if the glue holds on better than my V7s.
     
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    I haven't bought any V8 yet (I will when the FO shoes are out here). I would like to know your insights on the shoe not having the fitframe unit. How does angle support feel?

    And @Bobby: is that hardened plastic shell like a fitframe?
     
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  48. Bobby Jr

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    Well, a fitframe can be different things. On the V7 it is apparently that plastic strip around the outside which does basically nothing.

    The difference on the V8 is easily noticeable. On the V7 if you squeeze the shoe together just above the heel it's got tons of give. On the V8 there is clearly some hard piece of plastic inside making is pretty solid down there.

    Also, the way they've done the laces - which lace into loops of strap which go all the way down to the sole seems to make it much easier to lace firmly for side-to-side support.

    For all the criticism people have given these because Federer isn't wearing them I think they're a significant improvement over the V7. Federer likely just has particular footwear needs including needing shoes which feel 100% the first time he puts them on without any break-in. Sure the V8s aren't the GOAT shoe but they're light, look great and seem to have fixed the most major flaw of the last model.
     
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    i only like the lacing system on the V8 because it seems like its narrower than the V7.
     
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    I agree with bobby about the non-visible fit frame. Had a gander at these in store the other day, and noticed for the the first time that there wasn't any visible support, like there had been on the V6 and V7. But when you squeeze the shoe, there is clearly something underneath similar to the fit frame, and it also seems to cover a larger portion of the heel compared to the V7. For anyone considering the 3.3, I tried those on, and they seemed very narrow to me. However, they didn't feel narrow in the same way the old V6 did, or like I've felt in other shoes. It felt more like the cushioning was keeping the foot snug, and the lacing system provides more support, but could narrow the shoes if tightened significantly. I'd say they fit almost the same as the 2.3s, and for those I used to buy the shoe almost exactly to my size, which meant my foot was snug before even lacing them up, thereby meaning I barely had to lace them up at all, giving my feet more room for manoeuvre. I might give those a shot if the price drops on them before the V8s, as my Wimby V7s are wearing out fast now I'm playing more.
     
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