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Ballmachine 03-08-2004 06:29 AM

Spadea finally gets one!
 
I watched the Scottsdale final yesterday between Vince Spadea and Nicolas Kiefer, and it was a very suspenseful match. The quality of play wasn't particularly high, both men had more errors than winners, but there were so many momentum shifts that I really couldn't predict who would eventually win the match.

Spadea had a chance to serve for the match in the second set up a break, but he choked and Kiefer won that set in a tiebreaker. I thought Vince surely blew his chance to win his first ever ATP title, when Kiefer started the third set with three break points (0-40) on Spadea's serve. Somehow, Vince held on and won that game. There were plenty of more ups and downs between these players in the third, but Vince held his nerve a bit better and came away with the victory.

Now, when I turned on ESPN to watch this match, I thought I would be seeing Andy Roddick vs. Nicolas Kiefer. I was surprised to learn that Vince had beaten Andy the previous night because Andy had the match well at hand, being up a set and a break. I thought that ESPN might try some of their old tricks and show us a repeat of that semifinal match instead of the live final, but thankfully they didn't. Credit to ESPN for staying with the final until the end, because the match went long and NHL hockey was up next.

I think that this type of drama filled, see-saw match is just what the fans are looking for. Many people get bored when they turn on the set and they just see Roddick hitting one ace after another. Im talking about the casual fan now, not the enthusiasts that many of us are. Personally, I don't care who is playing, if tennis is on I will be watching. I wonder what kind of numbers this final posted for ESPN, because once you started watching, it would be difficult to stop, even if you weren't a huge fan, because the question of who would win was in doubt the whole way.

What does everyone here think? Do you think the numbers were really low because Roddick wasn't in the final, and not too many people are familiar with Spadea or Kiefer? Do you think people turned on the set expecting Roddick, but quickly turned it off when they realized he wasn't playing? I would like to know the thought process of those ESPN boneheads that claim they are building "characters" and "story lines" for a sport that is live and unpredictable. This match had everything they could ever hope for, except the huge stars.

Kirko 03-08-2004 08:16 AM

Agree. It was nice to see Spadea win a tournament & I thought it was pretty good tennis.

CBodom 03-08-2004 08:19 AM

no agassi or rod dick in the finals = joe couch potatoe not gonna watch..

pathetic but true

Add one little bit on the end... Think of `potatoe', how's it spelled? You're right phonetically, but what else...? There ya go... all right!

joe sch 03-08-2004 08:41 AM

Nice to see a "journeyman" :wink: doing so well and finally winning a tourney !

larrhall 03-08-2004 08:57 AM

Fitness
 
Notice that Spadea has upped his fitness, claims he's one of the fittest on tour and the results show it. A lesson for all the 'serious' tennis players on the planet, and also for those who know to smile once in a while.

baseliner 03-08-2004 09:22 AM

Spadea's 1st ATP Title
 
Congratulations to Vince. Any idea what the record of most ATP tourneys before winning your first? I think I read VS had played 200+ tourneys without a title. Great to watch so much of teh event on TTC and ESPN.

guernica1 03-08-2004 04:53 PM

Joe in this case I really think journeyman label needs no exterior quotation marks! This guy I think even dipped down to the futures level in his mid-career crisis.

PureCarlosMoyaDrive 03-08-2004 07:01 PM

Spadea has a funny style. He's got that great backhand, ok forehand. He'll hit a forcing shot, move into no-man's land, and just hit groundstrokes from there. He won't hit winners or really even unreturnables. He'll just like continue the rally from there, not come to net, and eventually win the point or get pushed back. Funny style, but it kind of works.

Still can't like him so much, but it's nice to watch someone super consistent construct a point. Still nothing like nalbandian though.

gully 03-08-2004 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureCarlosMoyaDrive
Spadea has a funny style. He's got that great backhand, ok forehand. He'll hit a forcing shot, move into no-man's land, and just hit groundstrokes from there. He won't hit winners or really even unreturnables. He'll just like continue the rally from there, not come to net, and eventually win the point or get pushed back. Funny style, but it kind of works.

To my mind, he looks exactly like Capriati out there, and PureCarlosMoyaDrive's description would apply as precisely to J-Cap as to Vanilla Spade.

I enjoyed the final and Kiefer's game a lot: the two had a handful of excellent points, and except for Kiefer's laying down just long enough to lose at the end, the match was well-contested. A pretty evenly matched contest between two guys who couldn't rely on the serve for free points (or even easy holds).

Shaolin 03-08-2004 08:53 PM

"Vanilla Spade" :lol: nice

@wright 03-08-2004 09:04 PM

Spadea Wins Tournament: Affirmative Action at work?

Sean Dugan 03-09-2004 08:36 AM

Is Vince the oldest first time singles title winner ever on the ATP Tour? He is almost thirty (29 years, 8 months). Unusually old for a first time winner. The "journeyman" in quotes thing was someone referring to what Agassi once called Vince a few years back. Probably after Vince defeated AA at the Aussie Open (1997?). Vince lost 21 straight ATP matches once.....so that is at least 20 first round losses in a row. I think he ended the streak by beating Rusedski at Wimbledon. You have to admire Spadea's tenacity. And wasn't he working with Pete Fischer for a while? Can't see what Fischer would offer him as a coach since his only claim to fame is "discovering" Sampras, and directing him to people (Lansdorf?, etc.) that actually know how to coach.

joe sch 03-09-2004 08:49 AM

Sean Dugan picked up on the "journey man" correctly. it was one of AA lessons learned and a good point to all, be a gracious loser and be careful what you say because it often comes back to haunt you :wink:

zarathustra 03-09-2004 09:10 AM

Vince is not even the oldest first time singles winner on the ATP tour this year. I think that distinction goes to Dupuis (Milan).

Sean Dugan 03-09-2004 10:16 AM

Yes, Zarathustra, I think you may be right. Dupuis was a couple of weeks shy of his 31st birthday when he won his first title earlier this year. I think he has the record. I thought perhaps it was the Moroccan Vowel Man, but he won his first at 28, or so. These "old" guys can still play, huh? Agassi's turns 34, next month and can still win occasionally, but won his first title as a teenager back in the 1950's. :wink: Okay, here's a good trivia question.......who was the last guy to win an ATP Tour singles title using a wood racquet? Maybe someone will know......I don't.

Ronaldo 03-09-2004 10:19 AM

ESPN stuck with coverage for 3 hrs. Methinks LIVE finals and ESPN are over this year.


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