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anointedone 07-17-2007 11:38 AM

Hart, Brough, Du Pont, which had the greater career?
 
These 3 womens played in the same era, the era where they shared dominance of the womens to a degree, along with another great player Shirley Fry, before all were overhauled by the Mo train, before Mo's crippling accident. All 3 were superb doubles players, as well as singles, and all each won 6 grand slam titles.

The 3 women are Doris Hart, Louise Brough, and Margaret Osborne DuPont. Brough. Brogh and Osborne DuPont initialy were more at the top, with Hart contending but trailing slightly. Later on is when Hart made inroads, albeit aided by the Maureen Connoly accident. Osborne DuPont is quite a bit older then the other two, 5 years older then Brough, 7 older then Hart.

Margaret's 6 slam singles titles included 2 French Opens, one Wimbledon, and a hat trick of 3 straight U.S Opens. In womens doubles she has a grand total of 21 titles, including 3 French Opens, 5 Wimbledons, 13 total U.S Opens including 10 straight from 1941-1950. What is most key though is all of those 18 slam doubles titles, except the very first at the 1941 U.S Open, were won with Louise Brough. Not only her longtime biggest rival but very close friend.

Brough's 6 slam singles titles included 1 Australian Open (which the big guns hardly played back then so she just happened to venture there once to win),
4 Wimbledons, 1 U.S Open. She as won 21 total womens doubles slam titles, shock of all shocks the same number as her longtime doubles partner and rival Margaret. Her includes 1 Australian Open, 3 French Opens, 5 Wimbledons, 12 toal U.S Opens including 8 straight from 1942-1950. The only difference from Margaret, is where Margaret's only one not with Brough was the 1941 U.S Open, Louise's was the 1950 Australian Open.

Doris Hart's 6 slam singles titles included 1 Australian Open (she actually made 2 tries as oppose to 1 for Brough and 0 for Osborne Du Pont), 2 French Opens, 1 Wimbledon, 2 U.S Opens. She amassed 14 slams in womens doubles. 1 Australian Open, 5 French Open, 4 Wimbledons, and 4 U.S Opens.
Interestingly where as 2 of the greats of this era-Brough and DuPont joined forces in doubles the same was true for Hart. She and 4-time slam singles winner Fry, the final of the regular "big 4" of womens tennis during this time frame, apart from the temporary career of Connoly and much later Gibson, were regular doubles partners as well. She won 11 of her 14 slams in womens doubles with Fry. The only ones she did not were the 1950 Australian Open where in the absence of both DuPont and Fry, she and Brough teamed up to win the doubles (Brough also beat Hart in the singles final there); and her titles at 1947 at Wimbledon, 1948 at the French Open.

urban 07-17-2007 12:50 PM

Dan Maskell ranked Doris Hart as Nr. 10 on his all time ranking list. She had a sound, very stylish game, despite a severe handicap. I think because of polio, one of her legs was shorter than the other and a bit stiff. Most people rank Brough highest because of her Wim wins. Du Pont was one of the best doubles player in history. I think, she won a major mixed with Fraser, as late as in the 60s. All had problems on and off the court with Connolly, who was taught by her mentor Teach Tennant, to hate all rivals.

anointedone 07-23-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by urban (Post 1598104)
Dan Maskell ranked Doris Hart as Nr. 10 on his all time ranking list. She had a sound, very stylish game, despite a severe handicap. I think because of polio, one of her legs was shorter than the other and a bit stiff. Most people rank Brough highest because of her Wim wins. Du Pont was one of the best doubles player in history. I think, she won a major mixed with Fraser, as late as in the 60s. All had problems on and off the court with Connolly, who was taught by her mentor Teach Tennant, to hate all rivals.

When did Maskell do that ranking?

It is interesting you say Connoly had friction with this group of women. I was mentioning how it seemed funny this quartet of greats of the time, if you include Fry, all played doubles together, and the year in Australia 2 went (usually none went) but not from the usual doubles combos, the other 2 just paired up and played together even though they were expected to meet in the singles final. So Connoly I guess was completely outside of that group.

Trinity TC 07-23-2007 08:25 PM

Brough, Hart, Fry and Osborne were great but Pauline Betz would have probably cut into their Slam totals if she wasn't declared a professional for playing a couple of exhibitions. Betz was considered a cut above those four.

anointedone 07-23-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trinity TC (Post 1611762)
Brough, Hart, Fry and Osborne were great but Pauline Betz would have probably cut into their Slam totals if she wasn't declared a professional for playing a couple of exhibitions. Betz was considered a cut above those four.

So that group of players, while great, were lucky in a couple ways then. First earlier on Bentz having her career cut short due to being ruled as having turned pro unfairly, then later Connoly having her career cut short by a horseback accident allowing resumption of vyeing for slam titles by that group
(well they were already vyeing but always falling short when Mo was in the field).

slice bh compliment 07-23-2007 09:25 PM

Riveting stuff, but I think Alice Marble would have handed all of them their asses in straight sets.

Kidding.

BTW, it's hard not to agree with the above comment about Mo Connolly. And Pauline Betz Addie (who I thought would have endorsed adidas well).

It would go a little something like this:

Show a FH, "Addie does this well". Show a BH, "Addie does that well". Clip of the serve, the volley, the OH, "Addie does this nicely". A Shot of her and a trophy, "and Addie does this well, too." Addie does. The brand with the three stripes.

BTURNER 07-16-2012 05:59 PM

resurrected for pleasure.


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