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zidane339 05-20-2008 09:09 PM

Alpha Pioneer III?
 
Hey guys, I saw one of these for sale and I wondered what you guys think is a good price for it.It looks like its in great condition:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2447984...57605153235297

Also, can anyone give me any comments about the machine: ease of use, durability, clamp quality, etc?

cpt.piccard 05-22-2008 09:33 AM

I bougth an alpha pioneer 3 last summer for 240$. The guy who sold it wantet 300.. I`m new too stringing but i think it`s a good machine. Easy to use.
Only thing i didnt like was the mounting system.. sometimes the racket would pop out and over the "clamp" on the side.
But I just got that little problem fixed by Bolt here on the forum who sent me som adapters that works much better than the original clamps.

AR15 05-23-2008 04:58 AM

I bought one of the big auction site about two years ago for $175 plus shipping. It was in excellent condition with all the original parts/manuals that came with it. I still use it today and have had no problems with it.

When I bought mine, I saw others sell on the same auction site. I don't think any sold for more than $225.

It's a very good, heavy duty machine.

Mansewerz 05-23-2008 03:53 PM

Is this item number 220237103059? Also, didn't you buy a gamma progression from Richie?

zidane339 05-23-2008 11:45 PM

^^^^^
Its the only one listed on fleabay, and yes, I just recieved the Gamma Progression, and love it. Its got such a durable construction, and the six point mounting is so nice. But, I wouldn't mind having the fixed clamps of the Alpha Pioneer III.I could always get it, and sell the Progression

skraggle 05-24-2008 03:19 AM

LOVE mine, even more after the awesome Bolt sent me some updated clamps. Glide bars, turntable, solid six-point mounts. No better dropweight exists, IMHO...

gotwheels 05-24-2008 11:54 AM

This is a great drop weight machine, probably one of the better ever made, including today. It is built like a tank and has a double turntable for ease in stringing the crosses. The Alpha Pioneer III is the same machine as the Gamma 600-FC, and the Tenex 600-FC, manufactured until the early 1990s.

The machine pictured does not have the original Alpha clamps and is missing the four side supports. There is also a series of nylon head and throat adapters to allow a better mounting of various frames (two, one head & one throat) are shown in the pictues. You can probably still find these pieces at Alpha (newtechtennis) or Gamma. I do not think new clamps or glide bars are available, but you may be able to find used ones.

With all of the parts, this machine is equal to any dropweight out there today, with the exception of the S t r i n g W a y tensioning arm and is much superior to the Gamma X2, Klippermate, SP Swing, etc. It is limited in frame headsize and fan style paterns (will accomodate 110 sq. in.).

Do a search and you will find lots of information on this machine.

Good luck.

zidane339 05-24-2008 12:31 PM

Thanks for the input guys. I would really like to get this, but I'm not sure how much it will go up to. I'll update with final price.

Mansewerz 05-24-2008 03:03 PM

It's a shame that I can't find many stringing machines on the bay.

zidane339 05-24-2008 07:10 PM

^^^^^
Are you going to try for the Alpha Pioneer III?

Mansewerz 05-24-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zidane339 (Post 2363060)
^^^^^
Are you going to try for the Alpha Pioneer III?

Probably not, I want the luxury of the warranty and a return policy, just in case. Though it is a great deal.

zidane339 05-24-2008 07:20 PM

I'd say the high demand for it would warrent a pretty decent return policy; just sell it and you'll get your money back

Mansewerz 05-24-2008 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zidane339 (Post 2363075)
I'd say the high demand for it would warrent a pretty decent return policy; just sell it and you'll get your money back

Hmm, i'm thinking about it. I dunno. That's not as 100% insured, know what I mean. Btw, are you still interested in it? Also, i've heard that a frame can pop out of it easily, or at least easier than other machines.

zidane339 05-24-2008 07:28 PM

^^^^
Yea thats what I heard, about the frame popping out. Right now, with the price its at, i would get it, but its had 27 bids and a ton of views, so I'm sure its going to soar up at the last min. I love my gamma progression though, so I have no real desire to get it.

Mansewerz 05-24-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by zidane339 (Post 2363088)
^^^^
Yea thats what I heard, about the frame popping out. Right now, with the price its at, i would get it, but its had 27 bids and a ton of views, so I'm sure its going to soar up at the last min. I love my gamma progression though, so I have no real desire to get it.

Any frame warpage w/ it?

zidane339 05-24-2008 07:38 PM

^^^^^^
Nope, none whatsoever so far. Its the same one that YuLitle has in his videos, except he has an electronic tensioner. Its really stable and the adjusters really lock the racquet in firmely.

Mansewerz 05-24-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zidane339 (Post 2363099)
^^^^^^
Nope, none whatsoever so far. Its the same one that YuLitle has in his videos, except he has an electronic tensioner. Its really stable and the adjusters really lock the racquet in firmely.

Is it a single knob adjustment?

zidane339 05-24-2008 08:11 PM

Not sure what you mean. There's six knobs total, three each end.

zidane339 05-24-2008 08:12 PM

its this mount exactly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshyofxT_TY&fmt=18

Mansewerz 05-24-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zidane339 (Post 2363157)
Not sure what you mean. There's six knobs total, three each end.

Oh, okay, i've heard some machines have a single knob for the throat and one for the head to adjust the mount.


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