What do you think of Jo11yroger's Forehand take back?
 

Would you say it's a long take back? Is it overly long, or is it a good amount?

http://www.vimeo.com/2228977

I think it's a bit loopy.

(Good catch at 0:25 btw)

Definitely a good catch at 0:25, that looks like a RestockingTues moment. The take back is pretty big for my taste, but GREAT rackethead speed :D

Overly long.

J

So when people say they have long loop strokes, Jo11y's is a good picture?

That helps in topspin as well, no?

And preparation is STILL too late.

*Sigh*

J

Oh Jo11y, in case you didn't see, I decided to give you your identity back.


Also, watching the vid the second thru, as you said, made it less choppy and made it smoother. It also allowed me to see your "catch" at 0:25 :D

Loopy take-back but he's got good timing, so it's alright!

Like dating, it's all about timing...

I am not at all fond of that contact point. About a foot closer to the net would suit me better. It would allow a smoother shoulder rotation and better power transfer. Also it would free up your topspin.

^^^ Agreed, it goes hand in hand, late preparation, leads to late contact.

It is tough though, because when I hit in front of me, I generate an absolutely wicked ball, and nobody besides 2-3 of my hitting partners can get it back reliably.

So I end up easing up in drills, and forming bad habits that carry over into matches.

And preparing late, and hitting late, ad infinitum.

Shoring up the FH is one of my primary goals for the winter, preparing earlier and hitting out in front more.

So hopefully I can keep taking video and tracking progress with the high speed.

J

Believe it or not, this abomination I have going on now is twice as good as my FH was comming off my wrist injury last year.

J

Incase you didn't notice I just uploaded a short clip from a different viewpoint, but I could only put up a very short clip because I have maxxed out my 500mb weekly upload limit on Vimeo.

J

Squeeked one more clip on there.

Might possibly be able to fit a third short one.

J

The two balls in that last clip are absolute bullets. Is that your typical groundstroke pace, or were you going for those more than normal?

ouch the ball bounced onto ur face at 0:28

I am goofy looking to begin with so no harm could be done!

J

For me on a hard court, that would be the speed of my normal attacking ball. So harder and flatter than my neutral rally ball, that is the shot I hit when I have a good look at the ball and want to press the issue.

Not a go for a winner shot, but I like to bury that ball in a corner, and look to end the point on my next shot.

Obviously there I was drilling, so hit it back to my partner instead of into a corner.

J

Don't worry about your hitting partners. If you become too tough, they'll brag about playing with you.

What I noticed with Jo11y was that he hits in an open stance and jumps a bit on his forehand with no noticeable weight transfer yet his forehand is just as powerful as someone who shifts his weight. Jo11y's forehand is Gonzalez like in that sense.