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Mansewerz 11-14-2008 07:11 PM

What do you think of Jo11yroger's Forehand take back?
 
Would you say it's a long take back? Is it overly long, or is it a good amount?

http://www.vimeo.com/2228977

kelz 11-14-2008 07:27 PM

I think it's a bit loopy.

(Good catch at 0:25 btw)

RestockingTues 11-14-2008 07:31 PM

Definitely a good catch at 0:25, that looks like a RestockingTues moment. The take back is pretty big for my taste, but GREAT rackethead speed :D

J011yroger 11-14-2008 08:05 PM

Overly long.

J

Mansewerz 11-14-2008 08:07 PM

So when people say they have long loop strokes, Jo11y's is a good picture?

That helps in topspin as well, no?

J011yroger 11-14-2008 08:09 PM

And preparation is STILL too late.

*Sigh*

J

Mansewerz 11-14-2008 08:10 PM

Oh Jo11y, in case you didn't see, I decided to give you your identity back.


Also, watching the vid the second thru, as you said, made it less choppy and made it smoother. It also allowed me to see your "catch" at 0:25 :D

samster 11-14-2008 08:11 PM

Loopy take-back but he's got good timing, so it's alright!

samster 11-14-2008 08:13 PM

Like dating, it's all about timing...

Rui 11-14-2008 08:25 PM

I am not at all fond of that contact point. About a foot closer to the net would suit me better. It would allow a smoother shoulder rotation and better power transfer. Also it would free up your topspin.

J011yroger 11-14-2008 08:40 PM

^^^ Agreed, it goes hand in hand, late preparation, leads to late contact.

It is tough though, because when I hit in front of me, I generate an absolutely wicked ball, and nobody besides 2-3 of my hitting partners can get it back reliably.

So I end up easing up in drills, and forming bad habits that carry over into matches.

And preparing late, and hitting late, ad infinitum.

Shoring up the FH is one of my primary goals for the winter, preparing earlier and hitting out in front more.

So hopefully I can keep taking video and tracking progress with the high speed.

J

J011yroger 11-14-2008 08:41 PM

Believe it or not, this abomination I have going on now is twice as good as my FH was comming off my wrist injury last year.

J

J011yroger 11-14-2008 08:42 PM

Incase you didn't notice I just uploaded a short clip from a different viewpoint, but I could only put up a very short clip because I have maxxed out my 500mb weekly upload limit on Vimeo.

J

J011yroger 11-14-2008 09:21 PM

Squeeked one more clip on there.

Might possibly be able to fit a third short one.

J

FitzRoy 11-14-2008 09:28 PM

The two balls in that last clip are absolute bullets. Is that your typical groundstroke pace, or were you going for those more than normal?

halalula1234 11-14-2008 09:32 PM

ouch the ball bounced onto ur face at 0:28

J011yroger 11-14-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halalula1234 (Post 2867501)
ouch the ball bounced onto ur face at 0:28

I am goofy looking to begin with so no harm could be done!

J

J011yroger 11-14-2008 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FitzRoy (Post 2867493)
The two balls in that last clip are absolute bullets. Is that your typical groundstroke pace, or were you going for those more than normal?

For me on a hard court, that would be the speed of my normal attacking ball. So harder and flatter than my neutral rally ball, that is the shot I hit when I have a good look at the ball and want to press the issue.

Not a go for a winner shot, but I like to bury that ball in a corner, and look to end the point on my next shot.

Obviously there I was drilling, so hit it back to my partner instead of into a corner.

J

Rui 11-14-2008 10:39 PM

Don't worry about your hitting partners. If you become too tough, they'll brag about playing with you.

Rickson 11-14-2008 11:41 PM

What I noticed with Jo11y was that he hits in an open stance and jumps a bit on his forehand with no noticeable weight transfer yet his forehand is just as powerful as someone who shifts his weight. Jo11y's forehand is Gonzalez like in that sense.


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