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Benjamin 04-01-2004 05:03 AM

Which Led Zep Album to Get?
After listening to all of Led Zeppelin IV and most of Pink Floyd's The Wall yesterday, I've decided to purchase another Led Zeppelin CD. Now, my only question is which one.

I'm trying to decide between the ones listed above and need your help because I can't find demos of them anywhere.

FYI: Early Days and Latter Days is a 2 Disc Collection (23 songs) of their "greatest" songs.


BTW: I'm also going to get Pearl Jam's Ten...I love that album.

@wright 04-01-2004 08:04 AM

Just demo them! Sorry Ben, couldn't resist!

Benjamin 04-01-2004 08:35 AM


I explained in my post that I can't find the demos anywhere.


@wright 04-01-2004 08:56 AM

Download Kazaa and get all the albums you want for free! Most of the guys that were in these bands are so fried they won't even notice the lack of residuals!

Phil 04-01-2004 08:30 PM

You're too much, Benjamin. Do you have to ask someone when you get up in the morning, whether or not you should visit the bathroom? Get a spine, man. Make a decision-any decision, and stop trying to involve others in your weakness.

spam 04-02-2004 02:52 AM

An aside,Robert Plant lives not far from me and is an avid tennis player -he plays regularly at a local club and was watching a junior tournament at my club 3 weeks ago.Personally Id go for Led Zep 2 or song remains the same ,if you're too sad to make your own decision.

Benjamin 04-02-2004 04:58 AM

Thanks Phil. As always, I appreciate your opinion....NOT!

Sorry that I'm not a rich guy and can spend money without worrying about if I'm wasting it. Some of us (well, maybe just me) like to make sure that we are buying something that is worth buying. Why blow $15 on a CD or $200 on a racquet when you can get others opinions on it to see if it actually something you want.

If nobody asked for opinions (yes I'm aware that I ask for more than most) then there wouldn't be many posts here would there?

You win man....I'll refrain from asking opinions on this board!!!


Swan Song 04-02-2004 09:27 AM

Get In Through the Out Door. IMO it's a great album. The songs in that album is like zeppelin's "new" music which is different from their old albums.

Deuce 04-02-2004 10:04 PM

"Why blow $15 on a CD or $200 on a racquet when you can get others opinions on it to see if it actually something you want."

Ben - could you explain to me how MY preference translates to YOUR want?

Does it go something like this: If I like Rice Krispies, then YOU like Rice Krispies... If I like redheads, then YOU like redheads... If I like blue shorts, then YOU like blue shorts...

I'm curious about this formula. Is that about how it works?

Benjamin 04-03-2004 04:46 PM



@wright 04-03-2004 05:13 PM

Deuce, I hope your attacks on this board help your self esteem, so maybe they serve SOME purpose. And no, I'm not trying to get something started, but why pick on someone like that? I guess you've NEVER asked someone their opinion on something to help form your own. Get off the high horse, it keeps farting and it really stinks.

Morpheus 04-03-2004 06:27 PM

Here are a few lyrics that could have been sung by some of our favorite players...

Serena (by Helen Reddy)

I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

Andre circa 1980s (by Dire Straits)

See the little ***got with the earring and the make-up
Yeah buddy that's his own hair
That little ***got got his own jet airplane
That little ***got he's millionaire

This one's a little too obvious (by Barry Manilow):

Oh Mandy well,
you came and you gave without taking,
but I sent you away.
Oh, Mandy well,
kissed me and stopped me from shaking,
and I need you today. Oh, Mandy!

Phil 04-03-2004 06:30 PM

Benjamin wrote:


Sorry that I'm not a rich guy and can spend money without worrying about if I'm wasting it. Some of us (well, maybe just me) like to make sure that we are buying something that is worth buying. Why blow $15 on a CD or $200 on a racquet when you can get others opinions on it to see if it actually something you want.
It's not about money, Ben; it's about being mature and confident enough to go through life as an independent-minded person. Part of that is realizing that you aren't a baby anymore, totally dependent on the opinions of others, and knowing where and how to find the information you need in order to make certain decisions.

This isn't a flame, as much as you may think it is. Being needy and dependent on others is the easy, lazy man's way-you won't get where you want to go-only where THEY want you to go. Of course you're perfectly free to ignore MY opinions (which won't stop me from giving them) and keep fishing for those of others, but that isn't gonna help you. BTW, I saw your little "announcement" in the Racquets section-my ADVICE to you: don't let those TROLLS get to you; we all have to deal with them.

Morpheus 04-03-2004 08:10 PM

Don't sweat it Ben. To thine own self be true.

You might try some of Plant's solo stuff. And I believe you can get all of Zeppelin's studio recordings for a little over $110 on Amazon. I'm a little older than you and I listened to a lot of Floyd in college. Great napping music. Dire Straits is always good for a listen, as well.

(And I still think the Diablo is a worthy racket for you. And that comes from one who is not generally a Prince fan).

Deuce 04-03-2004 11:11 PM

awright, you're awrong again. You're also being an ***. High horse? That would be you, who calls people Nazis, and then has the bloody arrogance to object to something that is far, far more benign than some of the stuff you put up here. Your stones are going to be thrown back at you every time you pull this garbage with me. Now pick them up and go throw them at someone else - but be sure to sweep up all that broken glass first.

What I wrote to Ben (yes, to BEN, not to anyone else) was sarcastic to a degree. Sarcasm is often used to make a point - and that is what was done. Perfectly valid, and not anywhere near 'attack' territory.I also pointed out the silliness of asking people he doesn't know to tell him what is 'good music'. Things simply don't work that way - as is obvious to anyone who gives it a moment's thought. There's a bunch of people gathered, and you basically know very little about them - certainly don't know their musical tastes - and you're going to put value in their opinions on music? That makes about as much sense as asking a complete stranger to tell you if a particular racquet is 'good' or 'bad' - it simply cannot be accomplished. They can pretend to be 'nice', and give you their opinion, but that opinion is completely and inherently worthless, because you don't know them at all - therefore, you have no reference point whatsoever.

I think if all the people who claim to care about 'poor Benjamin' were honest with him instead of patronizing the hell out of him and just telling him what he wants to hear, then he'd see that what he's asking of people is impossible for anyone to provide - which is a fact that everyone - even Ben - is fully aware of , in truth.

So far, Phil's the only one who's being honest with him.

"I'd much rather be honest than polite." ~ wise old man.

Morpheus 04-04-2004 07:26 AM

Deuce, did it ever occur to you that perhaps Benjamin enjoys the interaction the board provides? I don't think it is your (or Phil's) place to tutor him about how he conducts his life. You and Phil may think honesty is best served with sarcasm, but sometimes this type of response seems just plain mean.

@wright 04-04-2004 10:42 AM

Deuce, if you were so concerned about addressing Ben and only Ben, you could have sent an e-mail. You know where to find his address. Instead you decided to make fun of him for everyone to see. Like I said, hopefully that helps your self-esteem to post smart-***, self righteous posts on a tennis message board. If you could cite where I called someone a ****, I'd appreciate it. I will call someone an *** though, and that's you. Have a nice day, ******.

Deuce 04-04-2004 09:32 PM

Morpheus - if you qualify my post as being "mean", then you have the sensitivity of a 10 year old girl. I'm merely pointing out a fact that all of you 'socialites' are conveniently ignoring: that asking complete strangers for their opinions on matters, and allowing that opnion to have a significant influence on your decisions is ridiculous - because, these people being strangers to you, there is absolutely no measuring or reference point. THose of you who cannot comprehend this very obvious fact I suppose are doomed to your fate.

I certainly never once inferred that I'd like Benjamin to leave the boards. I'm simply giving him some advice - much like the rest of you are. Only my advice is more valuable, because it applies to everyone - it is a universal fact.

awrong - you called me either a ****, or likened me to Hitler. This was in only one of many absurd and offensive posts you put up when you first began posting. You were going around lambasting just about everyone. Then, in typical hypocrite fashion, you put up a post calling on everyone to stop the personal attacks. You quite obviously derive immense enjoyment when attention is paid you - how else can one explain nearly 1000 posts - while your nearest 'competitor' likely has less than half your total. You are ridiculous.

While on this topic, I doubt that posts on Led Zep albums and Palm Pilots is what TW had in mind when it created the 'Odds & Ends' section. This is a tennis board, not a social gathering. While the odd post which is completely irrelevant to tennis can be expected (usually dealing with important topics which affect a majority of persons, such as terrorist acts, etc.), there have been, in my view, too many posts about trivial, non-tennis related things since the implementation of the new board. What's next - 'What Car is Best?' 'Which is Best - Dogs or Cats?' 'Do You Eat Chunky Soup With A Spoon or With A Fork?'

How much complete irrelevance is too much for you 'polite' people?

Phil 04-04-2004 09:47 PM

Deuce - You are spot-on. Damn that hurt...

@wright 04-04-2004 09:48 PM

Deucebag, how about you go back and find where I called you Hitler or a ****, or even likened you to them, I'd love to see it. I'm willing to risk putting my foot in my mouth. I also didn't "lambast" everyone on the old board. You have a really bad memory. Get your facts straight. I do confess to deriving immense enjoyment out of tennis-is that an okay reason for me to be here? I'm glad you're paying so much attention to my post totals, how much time each day do you spend doing that? You are rediculous, Deucebag. While we're on "universal facts", here's one: you can catch more flies with sugar than you can with sh1t. You should memorize that one. You have such a high view of yourself and your self-righteous opinions and you think everyone else should be entitled to your smartass remarks all the time well apparently several of the board regulars that I exchange e-mails with are sick of your pompous crap too, as they've mentioned it too me. The only times I've attacked members of the board have been when they have been incessantly over-the-top beligerant to other posters, which you've shown a pattern of since I've been here. Nearly all your posts are negative and condescending, what a contribution! You are surlier than anyone else on here, what has been stuck up your *** this whole time? If it's personal problems, why take it out on other posters?

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