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soyizgood 02-02-2009 05:54 PM

The "What's Wrong With Her?" Thread
 
Here we can discuss WTA players that for whatever reason just can't seem to get it together. This could be due to a minor or major slump, inconsistent results, mental fragility, not living up to the hype, a combination of things, etc.

Feel free to agree/disagree as well as suggest others to be included



List:
Boardroom Executives
Kuznetsova (Permanent member of this group. Only does well when least expected to. Disappoints otherwise.)
Petrova (Only Nadia can make her fans do crazy things every time they hope she's turned a corner. Win the MM 2012 YEC, then win just two games at the AO against a tiny 42 year old.)

Advisory Board
Dementieva (That's the least I can do for her.)
Safina (Best of luck in your post-tennis career. We all know you gave 100% effort.)
Schnyder (What brand of orange juice does she endorse? GOAT of craziness. Now she's broke.) R.I.P.
Chakvetadze (Sports psychologist available to address the needs of fellow headcases. Are you paying attention, Stosur, Kvitova?)

Supporting Cast
Lisicki (Floor leader of the group. Can she lose without trying for an Oscar for acting pouty and mortally wounded? She's getting the choking routine pretty well.)
Wozniacki ("Great Wall of Denmark" being bulldozed to rubble in 2012)
Kvitova (2011 was her peak. The "next big thing" is turning into a scared little puppy with a bark bigger than her bite.)
Stosur (2012 without a title wasn't enough. "Mauresmo Syndrome" inflicts again with an EPIC collapse at the Australian Open.)
Hantuchova (I'm beginning to think she's an overachiever. She has no redeeming qualities of a winner, yet has 2 tier-1s.)
Kirilenko (Pretty good 2012 capped off with getting engaged. Can she actually win something this year?)
Zvonareva (Crybaby can't help herself at the finish line. Not sure when she'll be back playing)
Kanepi (Still crazy, but had a good 2012 until she got injured.... yet again)
Ivanovic (Stop messing with boys and your results should get better. Oh and do something to exercise your brain like http://lumosity.com )
Goerges (Her fans find any excuse to hype her up, but it's something about the 3rd round at a major that gets to her)
Wickmayer (Brainless ball basher. USO 2009 looking more like a fluke.)
Peer (So close to the top 10, yet so far now.)
Safarova (Berdych left you hanging, but you got a home here.)
Rezai (R.I.P. until proven otherwise.)
Pavlyuchenkova (Seriously, what is wrong with her?)

On Parole
Li (Just don't be a repeat offender, okay? Error Na needs to be kicked aside. Great work, Rodriguez.)


Not ready for prime time
Oudin (Won a singles title!!!)
Vandeweghe (Been hearing about her for over three years.. time to prove you are worth the wait)
Cirstea (Someone needs to put her face on milk cartons as she's been "MISSING" for a while)

Drama queens:
Jankovic (Still not sure if she enjoys playing)
Bartoli (Kicked daddy to the curb.... a bit too late, though)
Sharapova (She still needs a muzzle over her mouth when she plays. Her fans are such drama queens by themselves.)
Radwanska (Back to being Quarterwanska. Aga 2.0 still needs fine-tuning for the majors.)


Matches to watch 2009-present (best if you are brave or bored):
Sharapova vs Oudin USO
Dementieva vs Jankovic Cincinnati
Li vs Venus Australian
Pavlyuchenkova vs Vesnina Istanbul
Sharapova vs Dementieva Stanford
Clijsters vs Henin Miami
Kuznetsova vs Serena French
Clijsters vs Kleybanova Indian Wells
Venus vs Serena Miami 2009
Azarenka vs Kanepi Rome
Ivanovic vs Dulko AO
Wickmayer vs Dulgheru AO
Sharapova vs Kirilenko AO
Safina vs Kvitova USO
Sharapova vs Radwanska Stanford
Dementieva vs Stosur USO
Ivanovic vs Makarova AO
Wozniacki vs Jankovic Rome 2011
Schiavone vs Paszek WO 2011
Jankovic vs Sharapova Cincy 2011
Suarez Navarro vs Kanepi Estoril 2012
Lisicki vs Kerber Wimbledon 2012
Kvitova vs Robson AO 2013
Stosur vs Zheng AO 2013
Stephens vs Serena AO 2013

orangettecoleman 02-02-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soyizgood (Post 3093248)
Here we can discuss WTA players that for whatever reason just can't seem to get it together. This could be due to a minor or major slump, inconsistent results, mental fragility, not living up to the hype, a combination of things, etc.

Feel free to agree/disagree as well as suggest others to be included

List:
Safina (just doesn't win on the big stage....Olympic/FO/AO finals)
Kuznetsova (can't win ANY finals even with Henin gone)
Ivanovic (FO '08 looking like a fluke win)
Chakvetadze (has an real excuse for 2008, but not getting it together)
Hantuchova (an under-achieving enigma)
Kirilenko (wins and loses when she's expected to)
Vaidisova (falling apart at 19 and not really giving a care)
Safarova (haven't seen much of her... maybe that's the problem)
Mirza (just use an extreme semi-western forehand then....acts like a diva without the wins to back it up)

Zheng- 7 inches too short :(

wilfreb 02-02-2009 07:07 PM

Dementieva???

MomentumGT 02-02-2009 07:08 PM

Awesome! A player bashing thread! WTA to boot. Subscribed for the lulz.

-Jon

YouCantBeSerious 02-02-2009 07:17 PM

Sharapova (screams too much, neighbors might care.)
Serena (everything.)
Kournikova (doesn't know how to play tennis, other than that perfect.)

TheTruth 02-02-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soyizgood (Post 3093248)
Here we can discuss WTA players that for whatever reason just can't seem to get it together. This could be due to a minor or major slump, inconsistent results, mental fragility, not living up to the hype, a combination of things, etc.

Feel free to agree/disagree as well as suggest others to be included

List:
Safina (just doesn't win on the big stage....Olympic/FO/AO finals)
Kuznetsova (can't win ANY finals even with Henin gone)
Ivanovic (FO '08 looking like a fluke win)
Chakvetadze (has an real excuse for 2008, but not getting it together)
Hantuchova (an under-achieving enigma)
Kirilenko (wins and loses when she's expected to)
Vaidisova (falling apart at 19 and not really giving a care)
Safarova (haven't seen much of her... maybe that's the problem)
Mirza (just use an extreme semi-western forehand then....acts like a diva without the wins to back it up)

Safina just needs experience. She's getting there.

Kuzzy-Never seems to have a game plan. She seems to think she can outhit and retrieve most balls, but sometimes you have to play to players weaknesses. She doesn't do that.

Ivanovic-I thought was overhyped from the start. Never did see what they saw in her.

Chakvetadze-I don't know what's wrong with her. Maybe the expectations are too much for her.

Hantuchova-struggles with nerves too much. May need to see a sports psychologist.

Kirilenko-maybe she doesn't have enough power. Don't get to see her much since she goes out so early.

Vaidisova-a dang shame.

Safarova-totally disappointed in her. Maybe Berdychitis is rubbing off on her. Afraid of one's own potential.

Mirza-haven't seen her since I saw her live.

mrDamien 02-02-2009 07:28 PM

Sharapova (mixed feelings)

boredone3456 02-02-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soyizgood (Post 3093248)
Here we can discuss WTA players that for whatever reason just can't seem to get it together. This could be due to a minor or major slump, inconsistent results, mental fragility, not living up to the hype, a combination of things, etc.

Feel free to agree/disagree as well as suggest others to be included

List:
Safina (just doesn't win on the big stage....Olympic/FO/AO finals)
Kuznetsova (can't win ANY finals even with Henin gone)
Ivanovic (FO '08 looking like a fluke win)
Chakvetadze (has an real excuse for 2008, but not getting it together)
Hantuchova (an under-achieving enigma)
Kirilenko (wins and loses when she's expected to)
Vaidisova (falling apart at 19 and not really giving a care)
Safarova (haven't seen much of her... maybe that's the problem)
Mirza (just use an extreme semi-western forehand then....acts like a diva without the wins to back it up)

Safina needs to develop the winners Mentality.
Kuznetsova is a headcase, plain and simple, her one slam was a giant fluke and whenever she is in a final 90% of the time her game goes south for the winter.
Ivanovic hasn't been able to recover from whatever happened to her thumb. Chakvetadze and Hantuchova are seemingly scared of the top, the play well until they get to the top ten then fold horribly.
Kirilenko doesn't really have anything special about her game.
Vaidisova has her mind on radek or something.
Safarova and Mirza...no clue at all.
Dementieva needs a complete overhaul of her serve.
Petrova needs to do something to, she hasn't ever been a complete package, she needs to learn to manage her emotions on court because once she gets angry its over.
Szavay seems to be spiraling to...don't know why though

mrDamien 02-02-2009 07:41 PM

The serbians:

Jankovic (probably serve, volley, slice, drop shot.......everything especially her face)
Ivanovic (her fist pump really irritating everyone)

orangettecoleman 02-02-2009 09:37 PM

all it will take is for one WTA player to come in and be dedicated to playing, and be mentally strong, and she will dominate for a few years and make everyone else get it together. it's inevitable. it is a really weak time for the WTA, but i'm not a WTA basher at all. I'm looking forward to someone stirring the pot so the field strengthens up.

Sentinel 02-02-2009 09:50 PM

OP had me chuckling!
But what do you mean about Mirza acting like a diva ?? (puzzled)

soyizgood 02-02-2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 3094239)
OP had me chuckling!
But what do you mean about Mirza acting like a diva ?? (puzzled)

She causes her own drama in India with some of her outfits, how she makes a big deal about being uncomfortable playing in her country, and a few other quirks. She blames her wrist injuries on her western forehand, but also says she refuses to change her grip.

orangettecoleman 02-02-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soyizgood (Post 3094272)
She causes her own drama in India with some of her outfits, how she makes a big deal about being uncomfortable playing in her country, and a few other quirks. She blames her wrist injuries on her western forehand, but also says she refuses to change her grip.

eh, i think she just dresses like a normal tennis player, even kind of conservative compared to most tennis players. people just started freaking out of their own accord for stupid stuff like when someone held a flag up in front of her feet, and she threatened to not play in India anymore to quiet them down IMO. not really diva-like to me. she just gets annoyed at people in her country who look for reasons to be outraged, just like i do in my own. :)

Addi 02-02-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouCantBeSerious (Post 3093643)
Serena (everything.)

:lol: good one...

addi

fuzz nation 02-03-2009 08:58 AM

I think the organizations supporting the WTA are enabling all this flakey behavior by convincing the ladies that they're weaker in general. They get equal prize money at the majors, yet only play two out of three set matches. Yes, I'm only half joking, but I couldn't resist!

Oh, and by the way, Nadia Petrova and Anna Chakvetadze? Those two are just straight up bananas...

saram 02-03-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangettecoleman (Post 3094218)
all it will take is for one WTA player to come in and be dedicated to playing, and be mentally strong, and she will dominate for a few years and make everyone else get it together. it's inevitable. it is a really weak time for the WTA, but i'm not a WTA basher at all. I'm looking forward to someone stirring the pot so the field strengthens up.

Serena is working on that. I think she may win a calendar slam this year with the WTA in utter chaos and without competition.

Gorecki 02-03-2009 09:43 AM

i dont see what is wrong with ivanovic boyfriend choices aside! everything looks perfect to me...:)

soyizgood 02-03-2009 01:57 PM

^^^ I debated about Bartoli. I kind of gave her a pass for making the AO QF, but in reality she deserves to be on the list. No titles in over two years, terrible 2008, still on the hefty side, and still has her crazy dad as coach. I'll update the list later.

Klippy 02-03-2009 02:19 PM

Dementieva has a weird grunt when she hits the ball.

soyizgood 02-03-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 3096651)
Dementieva has a weird grunt when she hits the ball.

Sounds like Whoo-PAH! It's easier on the ears than anything coming from Sharapova, Serena, and at times Safina.


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