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Igrac 09-09-2009 10:35 AM

The NTRP levels of College Tennis Teams
 
I was wondering what the average NTRP is for the players in D1 schools as well as some JC's

Does anyone know what NTRP level you wold need to be to play on a Junior College Team. i.e. Glendale Community College

also what NTRP are the players in the California teams like

USC, UCLA and UC Berkeley?

10isDad 09-09-2009 12:45 PM

Not trying to be rude, but if you use the Search tool, you'll find this topic discussed ad nauseum.

The bottom line: there probably isn't a figure. D1 schools run the gamut from the elite to schools that are probably so weak that some SoCal high school teams would be competitive with them. The same goes for each division.

papatenis 09-09-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Igrac (Post 3908208)
I was wondering what the average NTRP is for the players in D1 schools as well as some JC's
Does anyone know what NTRP level you wold need to be to play on a Junior College Team. i.e. Glendale Community College
also what NTRP are the players in the California teams like
USC, UCLA and UC Berkeley?

I'm from L.A./socal, I think guys that play on jc and cal states are in the range of 4.5 and up, while guys in the PAC-10 mostly play at the highest level on the NTRP.

tennismom42 09-09-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Igrac (Post 3908208)
I was wondering what the average NTRP is for the players in D1 schools as well as some JC's

Does anyone know what NTRP level you wold need to be to play on a Junior College Team. i.e. Glendale Community College

also what NTRP are the players in the California teams like

USC, UCLA and UC Berkeley?

Since my son is still a junior, he's never had an NTRP. Nonetheless, I think I've seen enough to give an estimate (for whatever it's worth). I'd say he's a 6.0; lowest on his college team would be 5.5. He's a freshman at D1 midmajor.

Keep in mind that there's a wide spread. I've seen some college players at some D1 schools that are maybe as low as 4.5. The key tennis states (CA, FL, TX, GA) are going to have a lot more high-rated juniors becoming college players in those same states.

So, don't bank too much on the NTRP.

tennismom42 09-09-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 10isDad (Post 3908965)
Not trying to be rude, but if you use the Search tool, you'll find this topic discussed ad nauseum.

The bottom line: there probably isn't a figure. D1 schools run the gamut from the elite to schools that are probably so weak that some SoCal high school teams would be competitive with them. The same goes for each division.

"ad nauseum" LOL. I hope they add that to Webster's Dictionary.

ttbrowne 09-10-2009 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tennismom42 (Post 3910952)
"ad nauseum" LOL. I hope they add that to Webster's Dictionary.

"ad nauseum" is what I have when a dinker is beating me at match point.

Nellie 09-10-2009 11:33 AM

You can look up the bios of the top players at Stanford, USC, and UCLA (I never tried for Berkeley). These players are semi-pros, often with international experience and ATP points.

ttbrowne 09-10-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nellie (Post 3914520)
You can look up the bios of the top players at Stanford, USC, and UCLA (I never tried for Berkeley). These players are semi-pros, often with international experience and ATP points.

Yes, I posted a thread about the University of Oklahoma getting a player ranked around 907 on the ATP rankings. So I'm guessing he would be around a 7.0.

goran_ace 09-11-2009 06:28 AM

NTRP's are irrelevant. Take a look at the bios on the team roster and look at what their rankings and achievements were as a junior.

Fedace 09-11-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Igrac (Post 3908208)
I was wondering what the average NTRP is for the players in D1 schools as well as some JC's

Does anyone know what NTRP level you wold need to be to play on a Junior College Team. i.e. Glendale Community College

also what NTRP are the players in the California teams like

USC, UCLA and UC Berkeley?

7.0-7.5 or so.

Lindsay 09-11-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 3918276)
7.0-7.5 or so.

NTRP's go up to 7.0. Federer would be 7.0. So I doubt a guy from USC is 7.5.

Fedace 09-11-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsay (Post 3918504)
NTRP's go up to 7.0. Federer would be 7.0. So I doubt a guy from USC is 7.5.

Federer is 10.0. NTRP should go up to 10.0

Lindsay 09-11-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 3918537)
Federer is 10.0. NTRP should go up to 10.0

but they don't......

gokou703 09-11-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 3918276)
7.0-7.5 or so.

wow..i guess i can say that I got a couple W's on some 7.0-7.5 ntrp women lol... awesome

T10s747 09-12-2009 06:41 AM

If you look at the NTRP rating's guide, it has nothing to do with how well you strike the ball. It has to do with you ability to hit all shots from all court positions and use strategy as you are rated higher. Many pros cannot hit an assortment of shots. Many cannot use strategy (Ginepre) . But they strike the ball better and move much better than teaching pros. Ergo, NTRP ratings are meaningless.

AlexTennisAllDayLong 09-12-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsay (Post 3918504)
NTRP's go up to 7.0. Federer would be 7.0. So I doubt a guy from USC is 7.5.

lol you tell federer he is 7.0, he is gonna laugh at you, Grand Slam winners are off the amateur charts

kendall22 10-05-2009 05:53 PM

Federer wouldn't even know what a 7.0 is. Why would he know the U.S. amateur number system? In switzerland, the numbers go lower as one gets better.

TheRebelofPrince 10-15-2009 03:25 AM

fedace stop taking drugs, u know what they do to u

nfor304 10-15-2009 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tennismom42 (Post 3910952)
"ad nauseum" LOL. I hope they add that to Webster's Dictionary.

erm... it is in the dictionary

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad%20nauseam

'to a sickening or excessive degree'

slice bh compliment 10-15-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by goran_ace (Post 3918234)
NTRP's are irrelevant. Take a look at the bios on the team roster and look at what their rankings and achievements were as a junior.

Truth. My impression is that nobody actually uses NTRP ratings until they're 30. Well, post-college at least.

I played a good level of tennis in the 80s and 90s. As a 30+ yr old, I've beaten some D2 kids pretty handily. I have a big serve and I've had trouble holding serve against some DI kids. Now, I'm positive I'd lose to some of the top DIII kids who would do fine in DI or 2. It's a good level out there, depending on the program. I'm guessing college kids range from 4.5 all the way up to almost the world-class/tour level.


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