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pushing_wins 11-11-2009 10:29 AM

video: are these guys 5.0?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YL0...eature=channel

BobFL 11-11-2009 10:37 AM

Chubby is considerably better. Blue shirt nowhere near 5.0...

ttbrowne 11-11-2009 10:39 AM

No. First clue: A 5.0 would never have to use a Titanic head size racket.

MomentumGT 11-11-2009 10:42 AM

Guy with the white shirt has pretty decent control on his shots, especially up at net. He was probably pretty good when he was younger and slimmer. Blue shirt guy was being strung around the court at will. Ratings are all relative.

-Jon

user92626 11-11-2009 10:51 AM

I have no idea without being able to tell the pace of the shots. How many bounces does a typical FH shot take?

Without pace and spin probadly any 3.5, 4 or whatever can hit like that and more. IMO, there's nothing hard about serving, hitting, volleying, moving at low speed!!!

drakulie 11-11-2009 11:21 AM

Yes. if I remember correctly, the guy in the white has a verifiable NTRP 5.0 rating.

LeeD 11-11-2009 12:15 PM

Guy in white might have played 5.0 tournaments, but he's a decent 3.5 at best with not much hope for making solid 4.5's. He's doesn't have movement, pace, reactions, coverage, or much more than basic skills.
I lower level player can always enter multiple Open tournements, but unless he can win 2-4 rounds in each, he does'nt really belong there.
Guy in white doesn't win any rounds in 5.0 tournaments, so doesn't belong there regardless of my spelling.

VaBeachTennis 11-11-2009 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 4098116)
Guy in white might have played 5.0 tournaments, but he's a decent 3.5 at best with not much hope for making solid 4.5's. He's doesn't have movement, pace, reactions, coverage, or much more than basic skills.
I lower level player can always enter multiple Open tournements, but unless he can win 2-4 rounds in each, he does'nt really belong there.
Guy in white doesn't win any rounds in 5.0 tournaments, so doesn't belong there regardless of my spelling.

I know the guy, he's a friend of mine. He'd wipe all of the people here, who are detracting him across the court and make them look silly. He may be a little "chubby" , but I bet he'd be having you skinny guys panting and out of breath and stalling for a break and begging for mercy, while he is barely breaking a sweat and laughing. Videos are deceptive..............

fruitytennis1 11-11-2009 12:31 PM

4.0 i would think. Cant really tell since its vid. But he isnt 5.0

SystemicAnomaly 11-11-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 4098116)
Guy in white might have played 5.0 tournaments, but he's a decent 3.5 at best with not much hope for making solid 4.5's. He's doesn't have movement, pace, reactions, coverage, or much more than basic skills.

I lower level player can always enter multiple Open tournements, but unless he can win 2-4 rounds in each, he does'nt really belong there.
Guy in white doesn't win any rounds in 5.0 tournaments, so doesn't belong there regardless of my spelling.

:twisted:
I don't quite follow that reasoning. Only half the entrants in a given 5.0 tournament make it past the 1st round. 75% of the entrants fail to win the 2nd round. So none of these players belong in a 5.0 tournament?

So let's eliminate all those players from a 5.0 event. Half of the players left will then lose in the first round. So clearly, they do not belong either. We can take it further & eliminate them also from entering a 5.0 event. Taken to its logical conclusion, there is only 1 guy that belongs in a 5.0 tournament. Since this would be the case, there is no reason to hold tournaments at all!!!
:twisted:

retlod 11-11-2009 12:43 PM

If they're trying, 3.5. If they're screwing around, 4.0. 4.5's shouldn't miss easy shots and should put away short balls with ease. 5.0's should be able to gun you down from the baseline and put those kick serves into the corners instead of right down the middle.

jrod 11-11-2009 12:51 PM

They sure as hell don't look like 5.0 players in this clip...compared to players in my area, 3.5 - 4.0?

SuperDuy 11-11-2009 01:21 PM

Look at the guy in the whites youtube videos, he has over 1400 and most of them are on tennis and alot of him giving tips and stuff. On his about me on youtube it says he has coached for over 20 years. I wouldn't doubt hes under a 5.0

Kenny022593 11-11-2009 01:22 PM

It doesn't matter i learned alot from watching his videos :)

dozu 11-11-2009 01:33 PM

about 4.0 to be reallistic.

these guys are dime a dozen on the community courts, and usually an ez 6-2 6-2 beat by a standard 4.5

these guys look like eligible for the senior 50+ (or 55+ ? whatever) league, where this standard play can be 5.0

I can usually gun down the senior 5.5 people around here.

the video clips are NOT deceiving... they have no pace, no depth.... a 4.5 in the open group should just overpower them with ease.

VaBeachTennis 11-11-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dozu (Post 4098602)
about 4.0 to be reallistic.

these guys are dime a dozen on the community courts, and usually an ez 6-2 6-2 beat by a standard 4.5

LOL, I'd like to see you play G, I think that you would possibly be pretty humbled. G is deceptively strong and pretty agile.

Geezer Guy 11-11-2009 01:49 PM

Neither looked that great to me. The chubby guy in the near court controled the action by either hitting some nice winners or by missing some fairly easy shots. The guy in the far court just hit it back. He had some easy overheads he could have put away, but just eased them back into the court. The chubby guy self-destructed in the TB, going down 1-7 if I counted correctly. He did have several nice touch volleys though. If I was guessing, I'd guess 3.5's or 4.0's.

Nice video - I liked having all the between-point and missed 1st serves cut out. Maybe with some jazzy background music they would look better.

ximian 11-11-2009 01:53 PM

I agree with the general consensus, nowhere near 5.0. Average 4.0, maybe competitive in some 4.5 markets. But not a realistic 5.0 IMO.

VaBeachTennis 11-11-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ximian (Post 4098661)
I agree with the general consensus, nowhere near 5.0. Average 4.0, maybe competitive in some 4.5 markets. But not a realistic 5.0 IMO.

LOL, says the guy who would get blown off of the court by the "chubby guy". :)

dozu 11-11-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaBeachTennis (Post 4098637)
LOL, I'd like to see you play G, I think that you would possibly be pretty humbled. G is deceptively strong and pretty agile.

there is no such thing as 'deceptively strong', one either plays like a good player or he doesn't.

concensus on the thread is already pointing to 4.0

I usually go 50-50 with Div I / Div II guys around here. If these guys are at college age, there will be no Div I/II coaches want them on the team. Period.


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