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Virginia 11-28-2009 05:18 PM

How old is your oldest racquet?
 
As the title says. :)

I'm so excited because I've just found out (for certain) that my Wright & Ditson "The Hub" is definitely pre 1900. It's somewhere between 1895 and 1899 incl.

I'll post a photo later, but it has the old squarish head and cross hatching on the handle. It is a Ladies model, measuring 4 1/2" around the grip and weighing 12oz. In very good condition, except for the strings, five of which are broken, but not missing, and the buttcap, which has lost whatever used to be written on it. The handwritten gold Wright & Ditson logo is intact and not faded.

I've love to hear about everyone else's old treasures! :)

ilikephobo 11-28-2009 05:32 PM

older then i am. i have a Pro Staff St Vincent and im 15. im not too sure the exact "age" of it tho

SFrazeur 11-28-2009 05:34 PM

A wood Davis racquet from the late 60s.

-SF

jimbo333 11-28-2009 05:54 PM

My oldest are probably my 2 Birmal racquets from the 1920's. Made in the UK of Aluminium (yes, it is spelt like that:)), with metal strings and was one of the first racquets to have leather grips apparently!

joe sch 11-28-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo333 (Post 4156964)
My oldest are probably my 2 Birmal racquets from the 1920's. Made in the UK of Aluminium (yes, it is spelt like that:)), with metal strings and was one of the first racquets to have leather grips apparently!

Jimbo, those birmals are really nice old metals, probably the oldest manufactured metals, predating the daytons by a decade. I have a couple wood rackets from the late 1880s

jimbo333 11-28-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joe sch (Post 4157042)
Jimbo, those birmals are really nice old metals, probably the oldest manufactured metals, predating the daytons by a decade. I have a couple wood rackets from the late 1880s

Yeah, the Birmals are great. I've seen one of yours and it's different from the 2 I have, they are really quite rare it seems!

I thought I had a new, unused metal Dayton, but I can't find it, which is really annoying:evil:

I was speaking to someone about these recently, and they were seemingly made after the 30's at some point with plastic buttcaps, rather than the original painted ones from the 30's. Do you know more about when the plastic buttcapped Daytons were made please?

Mdubb23 11-28-2009 06:51 PM

Ahhhh...probably my original Maxply Fort.

yuth 11-28-2009 07:47 PM

For me " DOnnay Borg pro wood" it 's such a great looking racquet.:)

schu47 11-28-2009 08:27 PM

This is probably my oldest. Diagonal stringing was popular in old wood racquets from about 1870-1890, according to Kuebler's Book of Tennis Rackets, so this may be from then. Or not. There doesn't seem to be any way to really tell on this one. "Grady's Bicycle Store" is the only thing written anywhere on the frame.




J011yroger 11-28-2009 08:32 PM

^^^ Way cool!

Where did you come across it?

J

jimbo333 11-29-2009 02:30 PM

Here is my Birmal, which is the oldest racquet I have, from I think about 1925:)



Someone told me that these had the first leather grips on tennis racquets, does anyone know if this is true?

jimbo333 11-29-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by joe sch (Post 4157042)
Jimbo, those birmals are really nice old metals, probably the oldest manufactured metals, predating the daytons by a decade. I have a couple wood rackets from the late 1880s

This is the plastic buttcap on one of my metal Daytons, that I was on about:)



I'd like to know what year these were introduced, if Joe or anyone else knows?

And I've looked for my New metal Dayton that I thought I had, but it is nowhere to be seen:(

Has anyone else imagined that they have a racquet in their collection, but it then turned out that they must have dreamt it or something?

joe sch 11-29-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo333 (Post 4159189)
This is the plastic buttcap on one of my metal Daytons, that I was on about:)



I'd like to know what year these were introduced, if Joe or anyone else knows?

And I've looked for my New metal Dayton that I thought I had, but it is nowhere to be seen:(

Has anyone else imagined that they have a racquet in their collection, but it then turned out that they must have dreamt it or something?

I believe the new model daytons with plastic butt caps were made 2..3 decades later like the 50s or 60s.

joe sch 11-29-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by schu47 (Post 4157269)
This is probably my oldest. Diagonal stringing was popular in old wood racquets from about 1870-1890, according to Kuebler's Book of Tennis Rackets, so this may be from then. Or not. There doesn't seem to be any way to really tell on this one. "Grady's Bicycle Store" is the only thing written anywhere on the frame.




Many of the rackets circa 1940 were strung diagonally like the TA Davis models. Yours like like it maybe a TAD from that era.

pshulam 11-29-2009 07:54 PM

If I exclude my two wood rackets, the earliest one is Slazenger Panther Pro made in 1987 (or so).

jimbo333 11-30-2009 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by joe sch (Post 4159646)
I believe the new model daytons with plastic butt caps were made 2..3 decades later like the 50s or 60s.

Thanks Joe:)

I was guessing 50's for these. It's strange that there is seemingly no record of when these were made, and that these were made 20-30 years after the original versions!

jimbo333 11-30-2009 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo333 (Post 4159177)
Here is my Birmal, which is the oldest racquet I have, from I think about 1925:)



Someone told me that these had the first leather grips on tennis racquets, does anyone know if this is true?

Anyone else have any idea when leather grips first appeared on tennis racquets?

ericsson 11-30-2009 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo333 (Post 4160233)
Anyone else have any idea when leather grips first appeared on tennis racquets?

Very good question Jimbo! my oldest first generation Donnay's had some kind of leather grips on so it must be somewhere between 1930 and 1940...
I will dig in to this a little more...

jimbo333 11-30-2009 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 4160265)
Very good question Jimbo! my oldest first generation Donnay's had some kind of leather grips on so it must be somewhere between 1930 and 1940...
I will dig in to this a little more...

Cheers:)

I read somewhere that these Birmals from the 1920's had the first ever leather grips, but I really don't know about this, but would definitely like to know!

ericsson 11-30-2009 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo333 (Post 4160289)
Cheers:)

I read somewhere that these Birmals from the 1920's had the first ever leather grips, but I really don't know about this, but would definitely like to know!

Perhaps but it was not common, untill 1930 it was mostly bare handle or they put something on top (white tape?) preventing from blisters i guess.
Take a look here at some pics:

Suzanne Lenglen and Bill Tilden in 1920 (bare handles)



Bunny Austin (English Davis Cup) in 1930 (bare handles with cover)


Don Budge in 1936 (bare handle but the article said: Note the bare handle; everyone else was using leather grips by now.


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