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Shangri La 12-09-2009 01:15 PM

Head Code names
 
I see all the code names when people reference Head racquets all the time, like TKG, TK, 237, 238, 57, etc etc, but never know which frames they exactly are. Can someone please decode them? Thanks.

meowmix 12-09-2009 01:53 PM

There's a list of code names somewhere, somebody will probably find it.

Basically, these are all prostock frames, meaning frames specially designed for special people (like pros, sponsored colleged players, etc). Some of us mere mortals can get our hands on these frames on occassion.

ryushen21 12-10-2009 08:31 AM

I've been wondering about this one too. Even though I just switched to the Prince Rebel, I am curious as to what code is for Djokovic's racquet as I would like to obtain one.

dlesser13 12-10-2009 10:08 AM

you won't be able to get your hands on a djoko racket most likely. it's a very mysterious racket/mold that most certainly isn't any form of a speed pro.

ryushen21 12-10-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlesser13 (Post 4186719)
you won't be able to get your hands on a djoko racket most likely. it's a very mysterious racket/mold that most certainly isn't any form of a speed pro.

I know it's a slim chance and I would probably have to pay through the teeth to get one but I would still like to. The specs are just too good.

Mdubb23 12-10-2009 04:42 PM

Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

Shangri La 12-10-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdubb23 (Post 4187605)
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

Thanks. This sure helps! :)

BobFL 12-10-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdubb23 (Post 4187605)
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

Well, no more controversy I would say :)

Great post, thanks!

Bob

ryushen21 12-10-2009 09:04 PM

So I guess i would have to settle for the TGK262.1 as that would be the 18x20, correct?

ryushen21 12-10-2009 09:12 PM

As I just read in another posters thread, the TGK262.1 is still a 16x19. So is there a TGK262.x that is a softer, 18x20?

Mdubb23 12-11-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryushen21 (Post 4188040)
As I just read in another posters thread, the TGK262.1 is still a 16x19. So is there a TGK262.x that is a softer, 18x20?

Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't aware of that. I know for a fact that the MG TGK's were that way for the string patterns, and I just assumed the Speed Pros would be the same. I'm good friends with a Head rep who's pretty high up on the food chain, so I'll give him a call today.

PED 12-12-2009 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdubb23 (Post 4187605)
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
Hope this helps.

Nice summary, any idea what the beam size is on the thin versus the thick?

Mansewerz 12-12-2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdubb23 (Post 4187605)
Djokovic and Murray's sticks don't have codes. They are completely custom racquets with custom molds, layups, and drill patterns. To date, these are the only two Head players who don't use coded racquets. The codes are as follows, keeping in mind that the .1's are 18x20, the .2's stiffer 16x19s, and the .3's flexier 16x19s:

--TGK219.1,2,3--Pro Stock Extremes
--TGK231.1,2,3--Pro Stock Radicals
--TGK237.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige Mids
--TGK238.1,2,3--Pro Stock Prestige MPs
--TGK262.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thin-Beamed Speed Pros
--TGK263.1,2,3--Pro Stock Thicker-Beamed Speed Pros
--PT57A--Pro Tour 630
--PT57E--There's a lot of controversy. Some believe it's a stiffer layup of the 630, whereas others believe it's the i.Prestige mold and layup. Head touring pros seem to think it's the old 630 though, as Ernests Gulbis told me after a match that he uses "the old blue one."
--PT10--Prestige Classic 600

Hope this helps.

How stiff are .1's in comparison to the .2 and .3?

Mdubb23 12-12-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PED (Post 4190617)
Nice summary, any idea what the beam size is on the thin versus the thick?

I believe 18 vs 20 (mm) but I'll double check.

Mdubb23 12-12-2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mansewerz (Post 4190663)
How stiff are .1's in comparison to the .2 and .3?

Good question. It totally depends on the mold. The 238.1 and .2 are very similar in terms of stiffness, whereas the 237.1 is supposed to be considerably stiffer than the .2, which is in turn considerably stiffer than the .3.

dr325i 12-12-2009 09:50 AM

M missed the PT161 (insict mold?), PT219.2 (Kusnetsova)...
I love the PT57E explanation!

star 5 15 12-12-2009 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i (Post 4190829)
M missed the PT161 (insict mold?), PT219.2 (Kusnetsova)...
I love the PT57E explanation!

Yeah I was about to bring up the pt161 too. I actually took the pallet off of a retail lm instinct last week and saw the 161 code.

PED 12-12-2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mdubb23 (Post 4190769)
I believe 18 vs 20 (mm) but I'll double check.

Thanks for the quick response. Just curious but have you ever with with any of the TGK 231 Radical Pro stock versions? Just wondering how they hit compared to retail. I believe that's what Chardy and Cilic use.

Mdubb23 12-12-2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i (Post 4190829)
M missed the PT161 (insict mold)

I wasn't aware it existed. Thanks, D, for the heads up!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i (Post 4190829)
PT219.2 (Kusnetsova)...

My bad, I typed TGK instead of PT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i (Post 4190829)
I love the PT57E explanation!

;)

Mdubb23 12-12-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PED (Post 4190872)
Thanks for the quick response. Just curious but have you ever with with any of the TGK 231 Radical Pro stock versions? Just wondering how they hit compared to retail. I believe that's what Chardy and Cilic use.

I've hit with the TGK231.2 and .3, and they are both amazingly solid. They are both a bit stiffer, and obviously have a more open string pattern than the retail version. They also seemed to have a significantly higher flexpoint in the hoop than the retail version, which took a little while to get used to. The .1's are exceptionally rare, and very few tour players use them. I believe Chardy uses the .2 and Cilic the .3. There was a .2 on the 'Bay the other week, auction #300369832502.


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