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BigHitterSE 01-19-2010 12:23 PM

Kirschbaum Pro Line II - The Best Poly?
 
Pro Line II seems to have everything I have been looking for - Comfort, Durability, Tension Maintenance, Mix of Power & Control

If you have hit with Pro Line II and have found another Poly that is better, please tell me which string you prefer and why.

I am currently playing Pro Line II 1.25 - I think it's the perfect poly

PKUSA 01-19-2010 12:31 PM

I agree that Pro Line 2 is a great poly. I have the 1.20 and I can't believe how comfortable and durable it is. I can't find anything wrong with it. The price is great too. And yes, it does have solid tension maint.

Fedace 01-19-2010 12:33 PM

i only wish it bites the ball better

TennisandMusic 01-19-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 4296202)
i only wish it bites the ball better

???

Man PLII has great bite.

JavierLW 01-19-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PKUSA (Post 4296197)
I agree that Pro Line 2 is a great poly. I have the 1.20 and I can't believe how comfortable and durable it is. I can't find anything wrong with it. The price is great too. And yes, it does have solid tension maint.

How long does it last you before it starts to go dead?

I was thinking of trying it but Im afraid of having to string it every other week like most polys.

chaddles 01-19-2010 06:11 PM

I like PLII quite a bit, and use the 17g a bit. Would not say that it is the best though, quite good bang for your buck. Better poly's that I have been using are Prince EXP 17, M2 Pro, Touch Turbo 17, and SP Hyperion are all better poly's than PLII IMO.

Jonny S&V 01-19-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 4296202)
i only wish it bites the ball better

Quote:

Originally Posted by TennisandMusic (Post 4296322)
???

Man PLII has great bite.

This really, REALLY hurts me, but I've got to agree with Fedace. I found no spin in PLII, and the power level was too much for me...

BigT 01-19-2010 06:29 PM

For me it played great for 5 hours, and then went completely dead. Almost all the other strings I carry from PolyStar, Topspin, and MSV play equally as good for a longer time, and cost 1/3 less.

Ron Insana 01-19-2010 08:03 PM

I have to chime in on this one. I am about halfway through my poly journey and PLII is by far the best I have found so far. The thing that stands out most about this string is the feel. It is extremely precise, like you can feel each individual string grab the ball. The bite is as good as I have tried from any string. Just look at the board and the reviews here. How many references to “perfect” are there?Although, there is no ‘perfect’ poly, this one has got to be the best 'all-round' poly. There are plenty of niche strings that specialize in spin, control, comfort, or power. But this one does everything very well, especially for bite and feel. It is stiff, but not overly so. It has enough “body” to allow you to feel everything without being at all painful to your arm. Control wise it is only slightly below Pro Hurricane. The sound is raw, not muted like Cyberblue . My only complaint is that it's playable life is only average. I am pretty picky about my strings and I typically can only get 10 hours out of any poly string before having to cut them out. While PLII does not lose much tension, it does turn a stiff dead but still not as dead as other strings from Luxilon and Topspin. I am trying Big Ace in the morning so I will report later on how that compares to PLII.

Jonny S&V 01-19-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Insana (Post 4297821)
I have to chime in on this one. I am about halfway through my poly journey and PLII is by far the best I have found so far. The thing that stands out most about this string is the feel. It is extremely precise, like you can feel each individual string grab the ball. The bite is as good as I have tried from any string. Just look at the board and the reviews here. How many references to “perfect” are there?Although, there is no ‘perfect’ poly, this one has got to be the best 'all-round' poly. There are plenty of niche strings that specialize in spin, control, comfort, or power. But this one does everything very well, especially for bite and feel. It is stiff, but not overly so. It has enough “body” to allow you to feel everything without being at all painful to your arm. Control wise it is only slightly below Pro Hurricane. The sound is raw, not muted like Cyberblue . My only complaint is that it's playable life is only average. I am pretty picky about my strings and I typically can only get 10 hours out of any poly string before having to cut them out. While PLII does not lose much tension, it does turn a stiff dead but still not as dead as other strings from Luxilon and Topspin. I am trying Big Ace in the morning so I will report later on how that compares to PLII.

Ever try Topspin Cyberflash or Signum Pro Poly Plasma? Two of the the most highly reviewed strings on this board, and I love both of them (but I went for the far cheaper alternative).

dadozen 01-20-2010 08:38 AM

I've tried a number of polys( Big Ace, Big Ace Micro, SPPP, SPPP Pure, MSV focus Hex, and some others ) and none of them compare to PLII, for what I need in a good string.

Are there cheaper choices? Yes. But PLII 1.15 is just perfect for me. Since I don't play for several hours a week anymore, it breaks before it dies. I just hate having to cut stringjobs.

DrewRafter8 01-20-2010 09:02 AM

Try Genesis Spin X. Make sure it's the red.

TennisandMusic 01-20-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonny S&V (Post 4297337)
This really, REALLY hurts me, but I've got to agree with Fedace. I found no spin in PLII, and the power level was too much for me...

Not trying to be rude but if you find "no spin" in PLII, I would say check your strokes.

PLII can hit massive spin. I mean, I don't use it, but I know it plays fantastic, I used it for awhile.

Jonny S&V 01-20-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TennisandMusic (Post 4301166)
Not trying to be rude but if you find "no spin" in PLII, I would say check your strokes.

PLII can hit massive spin. I mean, I don't use it, but I know it plays fantastic, I used it for awhile.

Don't you worry, I hit massive spin if I'm on the baseline, but my shots were not jumping as much at they typically do with PL II, so my opponents were getting shots right in their zone.

boomboomserve 01-20-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Insana (Post 4297821)
I have to chime in on this one. I am about halfway through my poly journey and PLII is by far the best I have found so far. The thing that stands out most about this string is the feel. It is extremely precise, like you can feel each individual string grab the ball. The bite is as good as I have tried from any string. Just look at the board and the reviews here. How many references to “perfect” are there?Although, there is no ‘perfect’ poly, this one has got to be the best 'all-round' poly. There are plenty of niche strings that specialize in spin, control, comfort, or power. But this one does everything very well, especially for bite and feel. It is stiff, but not overly so. It has enough “body” to allow you to feel everything without being at all painful to your arm. Control wise it is only slightly below Pro Hurricane. The sound is raw, not muted like Cyberblue . My only complaint is that it's playable life is only average. I am pretty picky about my strings and I typically can only get 10 hours out of any poly string before having to cut them out. While PLII does not lose much tension, it does turn a stiff dead but still not as dead as other strings from Luxilon and Topspin. I am trying Big Ace in the morning so I will report later on how that compares to PLII.


If you try the Big Ace, may I recommend the 17 gauge in RED, for some reason the RED seems more comfortable than the WHITE, IMO. Though the PLII does seem to slightly trump the BA in comfort, the BA is roughly $5 cheaper :)

PED 01-20-2010 02:10 PM

I've got several sets of pl2 if anyone is looking for a trade or I'll sell some at a decent price. I love the stuff but I need the 16g for my Rad Pro.

Just email me through my username.

TennisandMusic 01-20-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonny S&V (Post 4301565)
Don't you worry, I hit massive spin if I'm on the baseline, but my shots were not jumping as much at they typically do with PL II, so my opponents were getting shots right in their zone.

Yeah but there are other people on this board who have claimed to hit "more topspin than anyone on the planet" but you watch their strokes and the balls don't jump off the court whatsoever.

I'm just saying if you get "no spin" out of PLII there has to be a reason for it, but based on personal experience and loads and loads of feedback, I just can't fathom how it could possibly be the string. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm not worried at all, I'm just sayin...

T1000 01-20-2010 04:31 PM

This is the worst poly I have ever tried. No feel, it plays dead from the start, just an overall pathetic string. I guess I'm in the minority but I have tried a lot of polys (msv focus hex, pro supex big ace and blue gear, multiple luxilons, tecnifibre pro red code, kirschbaum competition, babolat pro hurricane) and none of the other polys play this bad. All of them had feel from the beginning but I never had it with pro line II. I've tried it in 18g and 17g at different tensions and my experience has always been the same. I have two packs left of the 18g and I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong when i string it, is that possible?

Ron Insana 01-20-2010 06:48 PM

Impressions of Big Ace 17g vs. PLII
 
Amazing how well all have different impressions of the same string. Just tried Big Ace for the first time today and for me it does not compare in any way to PLII. From all the hype on the internet, I was expecting it to be a soft, springy and 'user-friendly string but it was just the opposite. If I could use one word to describe it that word would be 'dull'. It is one of the stiffest strings out there, I'm talking ALU-like stiffness. I found no power, no feel and no bite. Spin was good but nothing to write home about. And the worst part of all is that I am starting to feel a twinge in my shoulder. I have never had arm problems with any poly other than ALU Power. I am seriously thinking about cutting these strings out right now but I will give them one more try tomorrow.

Jonny S&V 01-20-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TennisandMusic (Post 4302114)
I'm just saying if you get "no spin" out of PLII there has to be a reason for it, but based on personal experience and loads and loads of feedback, I just can't fathom how it could possibly be the string. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm not worried at all, I'm just sayin...

See below quote.

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1000 (Post 4302460)
This is the worst poly I have ever tried. No feel, it plays dead from the start, just an overall pathetic string. I guess I'm in the minority but I have tried a lot of polys (msv focus hex, pro supex big ace and blue gear, multiple luxilons, tecnifibre pro red code, kirschbaum competition, babolat pro hurricane) and none of the other polys play this bad. All of them had feel from the beginning but I never had it with pro line II. I've tried it in 18g and 17g at different tensions and my experience has always been the same. I have two packs left of the 18g and I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong when i string it, is that possible?

I'm not the only one. ;-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TennisandMusic (Post 4302114)
Yeah but there are other people on this board who have claimed to hit "more topspin than anyone on the planet" but you watch their strokes and the balls don't jump off the court whatsoever.

I wish I could get a video of my groundstrokes up but I don't have one... But my serves kick/twist pretty well I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIB-cYkjGQQ


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