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RogerRacket111 08-11-2010 08:40 AM

Foot Fault Rampant
 
As I have played USTA I have noticed that a lot of people foot fault. Its really to tough to catch it when you play singles but in doubles the guy at the net should be able to call it. What do you guys think?

I know your going to come of as a jerk but its a really big advantage to step even a half a step and serve. Why do so many people foot fault?

polski 08-11-2010 08:44 AM

http://www.usta.com/Improve-Your-Gam...Foot_Faulting/

From the horse's mouth:

Foot Faulting
Q. Can your opponent call foot fault on you when there is no referee?

A. The Code states that “compliance with the foot fault rule is very much a function of the player’s personal honor system.” If a player is committing flagrant foot faults, then an opponent CAN call him/her on it. But it is a pretty bold move to do so. He/she had better be certain that you have stepped on or over the line prior to contact before making this call.

For the record, habitual foot faulting is as bad as intentionally cheating on line calls. That said, I always urge players to focus on their side of the net, and executing their returns of serve, instead of worrying about whether an opponent has or has not stepped on or over the baseline during the serve.

Q. In a league match (no officials around), what happens when someone is told they are foot faulting, and they (a) disagree, or (b) say "sorry" but do it again. Who gets to decide if they should lose the point?

A. Ahhh… this seems to be a lingering issue…

If they are truly guilty of foot faulting, then they are cheating. If they disagree or continue doing it, then you have a challenging situation on your hands. I would advise you to avoid worrying about their side of the net and concentrate on what you need to do to win the next point.

There will always be players out there who cheat, sometimes- of course- unwittingly. It is your prerogative to handle yourself. If they CHOOSE to cheat, there is not much that you can do to get satisfaction. Maybe try extra hard to beat them.

Q. I would like to know the appropriate course of action to take when an opponent is grossly foot faulting consistently. I found myself in this situation recently, and was not sure how to handle the situation and stay within USTA guidelines.

A. Ask them politely to stop stepping over the line when they serve. You had BETTER be sure that you are in the right though. Remember, you are basically telling them that they are cheating- so be careful with how you handle this accusation.

Taking this a step further, I realize that a “foot fault” is not legal and that it should be considered a missed serve. However, as an opponent, does the foot fault have much effect on your own play? Not really. You might be better served to just concentrate on your side of the court.

Q. When I am serving I tend to foot fault. What should I do so I don't foot fault, but still have a good serve?

A. If/when you are called for foot fault during a match, do NOT change anything. Just simply back up a few inches.

During a match, it is best not to change your technique. Backing up a few inches will not compromise the power or placement of your serves.

tennisdad65 08-11-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerRacket111 (Post 4934738)
... Its really to tough to catch it when you play singles but in doubles the guy at the net should be able to call it. What do you guys think?

when someone is serving the opposing netman is normally at the service line, not at the net.. i.e. it is tough to see even in doubles.

r2473 08-11-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerRacket111 (Post 4934738)
As I have played USTA I have noticed that a lot of people foot fault.

Pretty much everyone does.

So, keeping this in mind, I like to call foot-faults when my opponent serves an ace. Not only do I not lose that point, but it often gets me a few additional points (because he is so ****ed off).

Sometimes he's so angry, he'll donate the entire match.

Try it. I'm sure this little trick will work for you too.

Now, concerning the subject of line calls...........

MurrayisBEAST 08-11-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473 (Post 4935054)
Pretty much everyone does.

So, keeping this in mind, I like to call foot-faults when my opponent serves an ace. Not only do I not lose that point, but it often gets me a few additional points (because he is so ****ed off).

Sometimes he's so angry, he'll donate the entire match.

Try it. I'm sure this little trick will work for you too.

Now, concerning the subject of line calls...........

Wow! That's devious lol. I usually play jerks that would tell me to "YOU CAN'T SAY THAT" if I called that lol. Foot faulting never actually affects a point so I wish we didn't have to worry about it.

West Coast Ace 08-11-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473 (Post 4935054)
Pretty much everyone does.

...I like to call foot-faults when my opponent serves an ace....

I hope this is sarcasm.

JoelDali 08-11-2010 10:54 AM

At the playoffs last week roving USTA officials were calling footfaults all over the place. It was freakin' comical watching the NTRP hackers (that includes me) adjust their serves, being all self conscious and nervous with the officials watching.

Is it really that damn difficult to NOT foot fault?

tnnsman7 08-11-2010 10:55 AM

Last year at the state tournament we played a team where one player would two foot/foot fault. The USTA official watched him do it 4 or 5 times before calling it. So evidently, even they are reluctant to call it some times.

RogerRacket111 08-11-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisdad65 (Post 4934996)
when someone is serving the opposing netman is normally at the service line, not at the net.. i.e. it is tough to see even in doubles.

When your up front next to the net or at the serve line and don't have to watch every ball and return the ball its quite easy to watch the foot of the server. If you can't see it then its your bad.

RogerRacket111 08-11-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by r2473 (Post 4935054)
Pretty much everyone does.(Double Faults)
...........

I don't....

r2473 08-11-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerRacket111 (Post 4935333)
I don't....

Ah, one of those guys.

tennisdad65 08-11-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by r2473 (Post 4935054)
Pretty much everyone does.....

from my experience, about a third of the people (30-35%) foot fault. 5-10% are really bad (1-2 ft foot faults).

I have a classical style serve with lead foot 'supposedly planted' till contact. I still stand 5-6 inches behind the line, because I have a very closed stance, and my lead foot rotates along with torso rotation.

Also, I think a higher percentage of lower level players foot fault (3.5-4.5) , whereas very few of the 5.0 and 5.5's foot fault.

RogerRacket111 08-11-2010 12:11 PM

It all occurred to me while I watching a USTA dbls match and noticed that our opponent was foot-faulting when I thought of complaining I noticed my team mates were doing the same.

I also wondered if I was doing the same and had to have have my friends check me out while I play and I wasn't.

I think its an unfair advantage and should be called especially the guys you really step in with their lead foot.

NoSkillzAndy 08-11-2010 12:11 PM

I'm not sure I've ever had the nerve to call one of my opponents for foot faulting. The only time I could think of doing it is if they have a powerful serve that's giving me problems AND their foot faulting is really obvious (eg. entire foot inside the court) AND the match actually matters for something. In that situation they would definitely be benefiting from being closer in and taking advantage of it by hitting big serves that have less of a chance of going into the net.

In general though, I usually don't mind it from most players -- and in fact I expect it to a certain degree. But with guys that have good serves, it seems rather unsportsmanlike if they continually cheat by moving more than an accidental amount inside the court.

NoSkillzAndy 08-11-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisdad65 (Post 4935360)
Also, I think a higher percentage of lower level players foot fault (3.5-4.5) , whereas very few of the 5.0 and 5.5's foot fault.

That's almost certainly true, but it does happen some at the higher levels too. One of the best Open level players in Texas routinely foot faults with both feet when he serves. Not sure any of the roaming officials have the balls to call him on it though ;)

dizzlmcwizzl 08-11-2010 12:59 PM

One time about 5 years ago one of my team mates told me I was foot faulting, and I was conviced he was wrong .... Until other teamates chimed in and backed him up.

Since then I have tried to correct it. I have taped myself and asked people to watch for it from the sidelines. They all say I do not foot fault when I ask them, however I am still uncertain I have corrected it. You know, I am unsure if I do something different when I know I am being watched.

pmerk34 08-11-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisdad65 (Post 4935360)
from my experience, about a third of the people (30-35%) foot fault. 5-10% are really bad (1-2 ft foot faults).

I have a classical style serve with lead foot 'supposedly planted' till contact. I still stand 5-6 inches behind the line, because I have a very closed stance, and my lead foot rotates along with torso rotation.

Also, I think a higher percentage of lower level players foot fault (3.5-4.5) , whereas very few of the 5.0 and 5.5's foot fault.

That's becuase 5.0's and above virtually all have had extensive professional instruction

r2473 08-11-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pmerk34 (Post 4935591)
That's becuase 5.0's and above virtually all have had extensive professional instruction

I don't know.....most people on this site are 5.0's and above (self rate) and haven't had one single lesson.

pmerk34 08-11-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by r2473 (Post 4935616)
I don't know.....most people on this site are 5.0's and above (self rate) and haven't had one single lesson.

Right. Self rate must be the key word. The 5.0's I see at the clubs have been taught.

tennismonkey 08-11-2010 06:54 PM

foot faults are rampid. so is the use of HGH i hear.


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