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the 10s n00b 11-16-2010 05:08 PM

pete sampras
 
my friend and i are having a debate whether he polarized or depolarized his racket... what do u think?

kiteboard 11-16-2010 06:38 PM

12 1/4" strips of lead at 3 and 9 ought to finish the debate.

SFrazeur 11-16-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kiteboard (Post 5190852)
12 1/2" strips of lead at 3 and 9 ought to finish the debate.

Shouldn't that be 1/4" lead tape?

-SF

Cooper_Tecnifibre4 11-17-2010 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SFrazeur (Post 5190864)
Shouldn't that be 1/4" lead tape?

-SF

I thought it was always 1/4 ?

BTW is your avatar ment to be like that?

freshtennis 11-17-2010 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooper_Tecnifibre4 (Post 5191372)
I thought it was always 1/4 ?

BTW is your avatar ment to be like that?

you think?

Cooper_Tecnifibre4 11-17-2010 02:30 AM

Well if it's not ment to be like that then i thought he would have changed it by now?

ryushen21 11-17-2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kiteboard (Post 5190852)
12 1/2" strips of lead at 3 and 9 ought to finish the debate.

I thought his frames were a 3" layer over a 4" layer over a 6" layer at 3 and 9....

statetennis09 11-17-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ryushen21 (Post 5191695)
I thought his frames were a 3" layer over a 4" layer over a 6" layer at 3 and 9....

I think, but not 100% sure, that you both are right. I think kiteboard is reffering to the total amount of strips of lead at 3 and 9. 3x4 sides would be 12 strips of lead, and the length could be what you have said. Not 100% sure though

kiteboard 11-17-2010 11:00 AM

He used 1/4" strips, each a little shorter than the last, 3 x 4 sides=12. 389 g total mass.

SFrazeur 11-17-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kiteboard (Post 5192208)
He used 1/2" strips, each a little shorter than the last, 3 x 4 sides=12. 389 g total mass.

He used 1/4" lead on the PS 85 St.V. and KPS 88. I don;t know about the Pure Storm Tour.

-SF

SFrazeur 11-17-2010 11:10 AM

The PS85 and KPS 88 with 18mm or 17mm beam width are too thin for 1/2" lead tape to fit.


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-SF

Don't Let It Bounce 11-17-2010 02:36 PM

The specs at Gregg Raven's HD Tennis site for Sampras are 384 g, 32.1 cm, and 367 kg•cm^2. Assuming those are strung specs, that would give a polarization index (recoil weight divided by mass) of 0.467, which isn't remarkable either way for stock racquets (the average for the 1200+ racquets on the spreadsheet in front of me is 0.464) and is less polarized than almost all of the pro specs I've run across (the average for 17 ATP players at the 2009 BNP Paribas Open was 0.52).

If you use the specs from the 1993 ATP World Championship in Frankfurt (don't remember where I got them, but they are 390 g, 32.3 cm, 379 kg•cm^2), it comes to 0.475.

Cup8489 11-18-2010 04:26 AM

Well IIRC he didn't really mess with his balance and weight distribution, as he wanted it as close to his old Kramer as possible (correct?)

So it could be that those Greg Raven specs are indeed unstrung, as the 379 SW seems more likely considering how much lead he placed at 3 and 9. I myself tried the same amt of lead on my BLX90, and it felt more like 375+ than 367 (similar to how I had my Radical set up at the time)

ericsson 11-18-2010 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cup8489 (Post 5193601)
Well IIRC he didn't really mess with his balance and weight distribution, as he wanted it as close to his old Kramer as possible (correct?)

So it could be that those Greg Raven specs are indeed unstrung, as the 379 SW seems more likely considering how much lead he placed at 3 and 9. I myself tried the same amt of lead on my BLX90, and it felt more like 375+ than 367 (similar to how I had my Radical set up at the time)

I had an old official Babolat RDC list (from 1996) where people like Sampras and others (double liners) were in and i remember that Pete's racket was 388 grams strung.

kiteboard 11-18-2010 10:09 AM

I've seen figures that list it as 384-389g, in that range, and just try to serve and volley with that log, I dare you!

VGP 11-18-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kiteboard (Post 5194251)
I've seen figures that list it as 384-389g, in that range, and just try to serve and volley with that log, I dare you!

I still don't get this type of mentality when it comes to "heavier" rackets.

The weight of the frame is what's good about it.

For serving, the added mass really shoves the ball. For volleying, you just place the frame out in front and block. The added mass and stability makes for a rock-solid volley.

I'm convinced people arm the ball too much these days.


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