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krosero 02-03-2011 06:02 PM

Rivalries at all 4 Slams
 
How many rivalries cover all the bases, with meetings at all four Slams?

Sampras and Agassi met at all four. So did Lendl and McEnroe.

Some others that are missing a "leg":

Wilander and Lendl never met at Wimbledon.

Becker and Lendl never met at RG.

Rosewall and Laver never met at AO or USO.

Borg and Connors never met at AO or FO. Same was true for Borg and McEnroe.

Becker and Edberg never met at AO or USO.

Federer and Nadal have still not met at the USO.

And so on.

pc1 02-03-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by krosero (Post 5397802)
How many rivalries cover all the bases, with meetings at all four Slams?

Sampras and Agassi met at all four. So did Lendl and McEnroe.

Some others that are missing a "leg":

Wilander and Lendl never met at Wimbledon.

Becker and Lendl never met at RG.

Rosewall and Laver never met at AO or USO.

Borg and Connors never met at AO or FO. Same was true for Borg and McEnroe.

Becker and Edberg never met at AO or USO.

Federer and Nadal have still not met at the USO.

And so on.

I don't have time to check but I would guess that Roy Emerson and some players like Fred Stolle or Cliff Drysdales may have met at all the majors.

It's tough for players like Laver and Rosewall because they weren't originally playing the majors at the same time as amateurs and their were so many boycotts when Open tennis started.

krosero 02-03-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pc1 (Post 5397890)
I don't have time to check but I would guess that Roy Emerson and some players like Fred Stolle or Cliff Drysdales may have met at all the majors.

It's tough for players like Laver and Rosewall because they weren't originally playing the majors at the same time as amateurs and their were so many boycotts when Open tennis started.

True about Laver and Rosewall. They never met at AO and USO, for example, but they only ever played two AO's in common (1969 and '71, which were the two AO's in the early Open Era in which most of the top players were able to participate without political or other problems intervening).

Edit: and yet the only two times in their entire careers that Laver and Rosewall both played at Roland Garros were 1968-69. And they met in the final both years, so go figure.

Mustard 02-03-2011 07:04 PM

Courier and Edberg met at all 4 slams too. Courier won 4 of their 6 slam matches.

1991 Australian Open R16: Stefan Edberg def. Jim Courier (4-6, 6-0, 6-4, 5-7, 6-2)
1991 French Open QF: Jim Courier def. Stefan Edberg (6-4, 2-6, 6-3, 6-4)
1991 US Open F: Stefan Edberg def. Jim Courier (6-2, 6-4, 6-0)
1992 Australian Open F: Jim Courier def. Stefan Edberg (6-3, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2)
1993 Australian Open F: Jim Courier def. Stefan Edberg (6-2, 6-1, 2-6, 7-5)
1993 Wimbledon SF: Jim Courier def. Stefan Edberg (4-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-4)

Mustard 02-03-2011 07:15 PM

There's also Sampras and Courier, where Sampras won 6 of their 8 slam meetings.

1991 US Open QF: Jim Courier def. Pete Sampras (6-2, 7-6, 7-6)
1992 US Open SF: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (6-1, 3-6, 6-2, 6-2)
1993 Wimbledon F: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (7-6, 7-6, 3-6, 6-3)
1994 Australian Open SF: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (6-3, 6-4, 6-4)
1994 French Open QF: Jim Courier def. Pete Sampras (6-4, 5-7, 6-4, 6-4)
1995 Australian Open QF: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (6-7, 6-7, 6-3, 6-4, 6-3)
1995 US Open SF: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (7-5, 4-6, 6-4, 7-5)
1996 French Open QF: Pete Sampras def. Jim Courier (6-7, 4-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)

krosero 02-03-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 5397944)
Courier and Edberg met at all 4 slams too.

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 5397966)
There's also Sampras and Courier, where Sampras won 6 of their 8 slam meetings.

We have two more.

Also, McEnroe and Wilander:

1989 Wimbledon QF
1985 USO SF
1985 RG SF
1983 AO SF
1983 RG QF

They also met in Davis Cup and the Masters.

Lendl and Mac met at all 4 Slams, Davis Cup, the Masters, and they had some tough matches at the Dallas WCT Finals (those two met everywhere).

Mustard 02-03-2011 07:24 PM

I have another. Hewitt vs. Roddick. Hewitt has won 3 of their 5 slam meetings.

2001 French Open R32: Lleyton Hewitt def. Andy Roddick (6-7, 6-4, 2-2 ret.)
2001 US Open QF: Lleyton Hewitt def. Andy Roddick (6-7, 6-3, 6-4, 3-6, 6-4)
2005 Australian Open SF: Lleyton Hewitt def. Andy Roddick (3-6, 7-6, 7-6, 6-1)
2006 US Open QF: Andy Roddick def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 7-5, 6-4)
2009 Wimbledon QF: Andy Roddick def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-7, 7-6, 4-6, 6-4)

BTURNER 02-03-2011 07:32 PM

A couple of women offhand, the easy ones Evert vs Navratilova, Graf vs Seles,

krosero 02-03-2011 07:41 PM

Lenglen and Wills.

J/K.

Keep 'em coming.

I thought maybe Lendl and Edberg, but they never met at RG.

Federer has never beaten Roddick or Hewitt at RG. Never beaten Davydenko at Wimbledon. Not that interesting as rivalries but I'm just wondering who Federer has met at all four Slams.

krosero 02-03-2011 07:50 PM

Court and Goolagong, I just thought of them because they obviously played the AO a lot, and met a couple of times there. But never met at RG.

Similarly Court and King met everywhere but RG.

King and Goolagong met everywhere but AO.

Jack Romeo 02-03-2011 08:31 PM

for the women:

rivals that met in all slams:
serena and venus
serena and justine
kim and justine
hingis and venus
graf and sanchez-vicario

those that are "missing a leg":
davenport and venus (didn't meet at the french open)
davenport and hingis (no matches on grass)
hingis and serena (no meetings at french and wimbledon)
capriati and serena (no matches in australia)
navratilova and seles (no meetings in australia and france because martina didn't play those tournaments anymore during seles' prime)

Jack Romeo 02-03-2011 08:44 PM

for the men:

nadal hasn't played djokovic at the australian open
federer hasn't played djokovic at roland garros

borg number one 02-03-2011 08:57 PM

Jimmy Connors played his good friend Vitas Gerulaitis in the R16 at the 76 US Open, and then in the '80 Wimbledon SF and in the '80 French Open SF. Yet, they didn't play at the Australian Open. Connors only played there in '73 and '74. Connors lost to Newcombe in the '74 AO final.

BTURNER 02-04-2011 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by krosero (Post 5398030)
Court and Goolagong, I just thought of them because they obviously played the AO a lot, and met a couple of times there. But never met at RG.

Similarly Court and King met everywhere but RG.

King and Goolagong met everywhere but AO.

Navratilova never met Graf at Australia, Evert never saw Goolagong at RG, or Hana at Australia But Chris met Steffi at all 4.

pc1 02-04-2011 05:30 AM

Margaret Court and Maria Bueno met at all four majors.

Sampras and Michael Chang met at all four majors.

Sampras and Todd Martin met at all four majors.

Probably the majority of the names will be in the last 25 or so years since players started playing all four majors around then.

krosero 02-04-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BTURNER (Post 5398418)
But Chris met Steffi at all 4.

But their USO meeting was a walkover.

They had 1 meeting at each of the other three (85 RG, 88 AO, 89 W).

Moose Malloy 02-04-2011 04:05 PM

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Not that interesting as rivalries but I'm just wondering who Federer has met at all four Slams.
Kiefer

http://www.tennis28.com/slams/headtohead.html#fs

krosero 02-04-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose Malloy (Post 5399955)

Thanks for that chart! So we can add these:

Sampras- Philippoussis
Sampras-Tillstrom
Leconte-Mansdorf
Federer-Kiefer
Safin-Rochus
Henman-Tursunov

Seems that Sampras is involved in more of these than anybody else.

BTURNER 02-04-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by krosero (Post 5399928)
But their USO meeting was a walkover.

They had 1 meeting at each of the other three (85 RG, 88 AO, 89 W).

Of course you are right! And Chris never met Court at Australia but played her at all three other venues in 1973 - and lost two of them!

krosero 02-04-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by borg number one (Post 5398134)
Jimmy Connors played his good friend Vitas Gerulaitis in the R16 at the 76 US Open, and then in the '80 Wimbledon SF and in the '80 French Open SF. Yet, they didn't play at the Australian Open. Connors only played there in '73 and '74. Connors lost to Newcombe in the '74 AO final.

Was just looking up Vitas' record at the AO. It seems he never won any matches there except the year he won the title, 1977. He also played in 1980, 83 and 84, but each time he lost the first match he played (which was sometimes the second round, after receiving a bye in the first).

So Connors and Gerulaitis are just missing the AO meeting. Same was true with Connors-McEnroe, Connors-Lendl, and Borg-Gerulaitis.

Minor correction: Jimmy and Vitas played at Wimbledon in '78.


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