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onehandbh 07-21-2011 06:27 PM

Greatest Volleyer of all-time?
 
My vote is for Edberg.

Check out this FH volley in the clip below:
He routinely handled low FH volleys with ease, which makes me think he
might have done well against the current crop of players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqhcMrEjWDE

pc1 07-21-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onehandbh (Post 5851509)
My vote is for Edberg.

Check out this FH volley in the clip below:
He routinely handled low FH volleys with ease, which makes me think he
might have done well against the current crop of players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqhcMrEjWDE

Could be right. Here's a related thread.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=302909

MarinaHighTennis 07-21-2011 06:40 PM

I think Mcenroe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kouETYMDNO4

or Bahrami
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ble2PSGmm40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Vqp...eature=related

LeeD 07-21-2011 07:02 PM

FrewMcMillian would have to be on the short 20 list. Little serve, no movement, and more than 6 grand slam doubles titles and well over 60 tourney doubles titles. 2hbh and 2hfh volleys.

Limpinhitter 07-21-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onehandbh (Post 5851509)
My vote is for Edberg.

Check out this FH volley in the clip below:
He routinely handled low FH volleys with ease, which makes me think he
might have done well against the current crop of players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqhcMrEjWDE

There's a previous thread with the exact same topic. And, BTW, there's a difference between being a great volleyer and being a great net player. It takes great volleys, great athleticism and familiarity and knowledge about how to play the net to be a great net player. With that in mind, IMO, the greatest net players I can think of, in no particular order (ordering this subject is just too hard for me), are:

Roche
Emerson
Laver
Newcombe
Gonzales
Rosewall
Edberg
McEnroe

Yes, Edberg was a great volleyer and net player and could really drive low volleys with a very small margin for error. Compare your clip of Edberg with Roche's net play here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHaN2h21ANs

hoodjem 07-22-2011 06:03 AM

An attempt
 
1. McEnroe
2. Edberg
3. Sedgman
4. Roche
5. Laver
6. Rosewall
7. Emerson
8. Gonzales
9. Hoad
10. Segura
11. Kramer
12. Newcombe
13. Panatta
14. Rafter
15. Henman
16. Cash
17. Ashe
18. Lutz
19. Borotra
20. Nastase
21. Stich
22. Sampras
23. Becker
24. Perry
25. Gottfried
26. Gerulaitis
27. Bahrami
28. Krajicek
29. Rusedski

pc1 07-22-2011 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoodjem (Post 5852274)
1. Edberg
2. McEnroe
3. Sedgman
4. Roche
5. Rosewall
6. Laver
7. Emerson
8. Gonzales
9. Hoad
10. Segura
11. Newcombe
12. Panatta
13. Rafter
14. Henman
15. Cash,
16. Kramer
17. Ashe
18. Lutz
19. Borotra
20. Nastase
21. Stich
22. Sampras
23. Becker
24. Perry
25. Gottfried
26. Gerulaitis
27. Krajicek

Excellent list. I'm glad you have Brian Gottfried there since in a number of ratings they had in tennis magazines had him among the best volleyers in tennis. I'm sure many in the top ten can be interchanged but Edberg is about a good a choice as possible for best volleyer. Sometimes you got the impression Edberg couldn't miss a volley even if he wanted to.

I may move Kramer a little higher since they said his volleys were very penetrating and he often put it away with one volley. They also said he had excellent range at the net. I can see Kramer in the top ten.

Laver777 07-22-2011 06:56 AM

Bahrami, who knows what he could have accomplished if his country let him play tennis

TheMagicianOfPrecision 07-22-2011 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onehandbh (Post 5851509)
My vote is for Edberg.

Check out this FH volley in the clip below:
He routinely handled low FH volleys with ease, which makes me think he
might have done well against the current crop of players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqhcMrEjWDE

Edberg is without a doubt the best volleyer of all time

Whirly 07-22-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoodjem (Post 5852274)
1. Edberg
2. McEnroe
3. Sedgman
4. Roche
5. Rosewall
6. Laver
7. Emerson
8. Gonzales
9. Hoad
10. Segura
11. Newcombe
12. Panatta
13. Rafter
14. Henman
15. Cash,
16. Kramer
17. Ashe
18. Lutz
19. Borotra
20. Nastase
21. Stich
22. Sampras
23. Becker
24. Perry
25. Gottfried
26. Gerulaitis
27. Krajicek

S&V my favourite play style. Rafter is my fave but what is interesting is every name before his are before my time. Going to spend some time on youtube watching some of those oldies now.

Rusedski was a great vollier when he wasn't knackered after the first few games.

hoodjem 07-22-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onehandbh (Post 5851509)
My vote is for Edberg.

Check out this FH volley in the clip below:
He routinely handled low FH volleys with ease, which makes me think he
might have done well against the current crop of players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqhcMrEjWDE

Could we call this a BHtB approach volley?

Tennishacker 07-22-2011 08:21 AM

McEnroe

By far the best. Naturally great hands, anticipation, touch, creativity, focus, excellent footwork, drive...

jakemcclain32 07-22-2011 08:55 AM

McEnroe with Edberg second.

Edberg was dead spot on, and beautiful to watch. Mac, though, showed more creativity. Could hit them in places no one knew were places.

jaggy 07-22-2011 09:05 AM

Navratilova had one

Manus Domini 07-22-2011 09:30 AM

Is the serve Bahrami does here legal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ble2P...tailpage#t=51s

I vote Edberg

duusoo 07-22-2011 12:42 PM

David Wheaton seems to be neglected here. I thought he had one of the better ones. Of course Johnny Mac.!

CDestroyer 07-22-2011 12:46 PM

Edberg by a long shot. He volleyed effortlessly and his volleys were difficult to run down and hit passing shots on.

Mcenroe had good feel but hit awkward soft volleys that were returnable.

Edberg is THE man no doubt.

onehandbh 07-22-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDestroyer (Post 5853194)
Edberg by a long shot. He volleyed effortlessly and his volleys were difficult to run down and hit passing shots on.

Mcenroe had good feel but hit awkward soft volleys that were returnable.

Edberg is THE man no doubt.

Agreed. What stands out to me the most about Edberg's volleys/net game
was how penetrating his volleys were and his ability to close the net and
cover it like a blanket. The court were faster back then, though. One
interesting thing is that he made the French open final one year.

Backhanded Compliment 07-22-2011 01:55 PM

Simple.... McEnroe

in his matches he not only volleyed well... he made impossible shots look routine.

Edberg is second. His strength as a volleyier came from his impressive ability on the approach and staging of points... Mac made it happen with the most amazingly gifted set of hands at the net ever, bar none. Edberg hit great solid, supremely well constructed volleys... Mac did something akin to magic at the net that one has trouble believing just happened... it just isn't possible for even very very good pros of any era to mimic his touch and shot selection at the net.

The fact that Mac is the greatest doubles player of all time reiterates why he's the best vollier.

woodrow1029 07-22-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manus Domini (Post 5852679)
Is the serve Bahrami does here legal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ble2P...tailpage#t=51s

No
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