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Vicious Vik 10-09-2011 07:55 AM

Longhorn Tennis
 
This will be the thread of the mighty Texas Longhorns tennis program. (mens mainly). Also known as the Shamehorn tennis thread. Remember when Texas was in the national title vs UGA and could have won? I would forgive you if you didn;t because now we are a shadow of that team. We have fallen hard. Now a team in the 10-15 range each year and this year will go even firthur south.

Looking at the 2012 upcoming year I see no cause for optimism.

It;s time for Center to go. We have regressed heavily. I warned back then not to recruit Ben Chen. i know he was a Texas boy but I saw his results. he loses to mediocre players all the time. got double bagaled by Blake Davis last year. Sitaram has been a bust. Olesen is ok but a plyer than should be playign for Texas Tech not Texas.

Meanwhile A&M, baylor get better and now Oklahoma is much better than us. We are the 4th best team in out conference now.

Vicious Vik 10-09-2011 07:56 AM

But still this thread will be for anyone wanting to discuss the Longhorn tennis team. We will root for them to do well despite the unlikely event that they will be succesful.

Fedace 10-09-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Vik (Post 6052987)
This will be the thread of the mighty Texas Longhorns tennis program. (mens mainly). Also known as the Shamehorn tennis thread. Remember when Texas was in the national title vs UGA and could have won? I would forgive you if you didn;t because now we are a shadow of that team. We have fallen hard. Now a team in the 10-15 range each year and this year will go even firthur south.

Looking at the 2012 upcoming year I see no cause for optimism.

It;s time for Center to go. We have regressed heavily. I warned back then not to recruit Ben Chen. i know he was a Texas boy but I saw his results. he loses to mediocre players all the time. got double bagaled by Blake Davis last year. Sitaram has been a bust. Olesen is ok but a plyer than should be playign for Texas Tech not Texas.

Meanwhile A&M, baylor get better and now Oklahoma is much better than us. We are the 4th best team in out conference now.

Ben Chen. is a good player. He beat Marcos Horny of Baylor. That is a great win.

AS A FRESHMAN (2009-10)
posted a 10-6 overall singles record and a 3-1 mark in dual-match play
defeated Middle Tennessee State's Shaun Waters by a 6-1, 7-5 count to pick up his first career dual-match victory
defeated UTSA's Daniel Moreiras 6-3, 6-2 in UT's 7-0 victory over the Roadrunners
knocked off Laredo Community College's Guilherme Narducci 6-2, 6-2 in UT's 7-0 win over the Palominos
notched a 6-1, 6-0 win over UTSA's Jorge Delgado at the Texas Invitational
defeated Baylor's Maros Horny (7-5, 6-4) and Texas A&M's John Lewis (3-6, 6-3, 1-0) at the 2009 ITA Texas Regional Championship
posted a 6-3, 4-6, 6-2 win over Tennessee's Max Stevens at the H-E-B Baylor Intercollegiate
registered victories over Pepperdine's Finn Tearney (6-1, 3-6, 1-0) and Abilene Christian's Luke Hawk at the Racquet Club Collegiate Invitational

Fedace 10-09-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Vik (Post 6052988)
But still this thread will be for anyone wanting to discuss the Longhorn tennis team. We will root for them to do well despite the unlikely event that they will be succesful.

I also want to see Texas recruit more players from India and South Korea. There are some great players out there that wantst to study in USA. This if done right, could make Texas top 5 team in the nation in 2 years or so.

Vicious Vik 10-09-2011 08:26 AM

Why India and South Korea? I don't care where they come from we just need more quality. Texas has good players but Center stays in state too much. Those players are good for filling the bottom of the line-up but not the whole line-up. If we don't get Shave Vinsant, Center should be fired on the spot.

He should also look at transfers like Diaz does. Get Idan Mark from Tulane, Andre Dome from Cal Poly and Enej Bonin of Denver.

But we need a top ace. Vinsant could give us that.

Vicious Vik 10-09-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 6053036)
I also want to see Texas recruit more players from India and South Korea. There are some great players out there that wantst to study in USA. This if done right, could make Texas top 5 team in the nation in 2 years or so.

we should be there each year

ClarkC 10-09-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Vik (Post 6053053)

He should also look at transfers like Diaz does. Get Idan Mark from Tulane, Andre Dome from Cal Poly and Enej Bonin of Denver.

Other than Manny Diaz, NCAA coaches know that you cannot recruit other teams' players.

Besides, some guys (like Andre Dome) go to a second-tier school so they can get more scholarship money. You seem to be assuming that a top player at a second-tier school is a good candidate for leaving. Texas might have a hard time offering enough scholarship money to get this kind of player.

Fedace 10-09-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Vik (Post 6053053)
Why India and South Korea? I don't care where they come from we just need more quality. Texas has good players but Center stays in state too much. Those players are good for filling the bottom of the line-up but not the whole line-up. If we don't get Shave Vinsant, Center should be fired on the spot.

He should also look at transfers like Diaz does. Get Idan Mark from Tulane, Andre Dome from Cal Poly and Enej Bonin of Denver.

But we need a top ace. Vinsant could give us that.

Look at what Indian connection has done for Virginia. They became #1 soon after they started to recruit actively from there. but undiscovered country is South Korea. There are ton of Young talented players that play davis cup for S korea. and many of those guys want to come to USA and study abroad and speaks Good English already.
I don't mean recruit the entire team,,,just 3-4 more guys from Indian and Korea combined. This will make Texas not only top 5,,,could make them #1 in just 2-3 years time.:)

rodrigoamaral 10-09-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 6053096)
Look at what Indian connection has done for Virginia. They became #1 soon after they started to recruit actively from there. but undiscovered country is South Korea. There are ton of Young talented players that play davis cup for S korea. and many of those guys want to come to USA and study abroad and speaks Good English already.
I don't mean recruit the entire team,,,just 3-4 more guys from Indian and Korea combined. This will make Texas not only top 5,,,could make them #1 in just 2-3 years time.:)

hard to imagine a south korean or an indian enjoying the austin, tx life over a San Francisco or LA lifestyle..

Clemson_tennis 10-09-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedace (Post 6053096)
Look at what Indian connection has done for Virginia. They became #1 soon after they started to recruit actively from there. but undiscovered country is South Korea. There are ton of Young talented players that play davis cup for S korea. and many of those guys want to come to USA and study abroad and speaks Good English already.
I don't mean recruit the entire team,,,just 3-4 more guys from Indian and Korea combined. This will make Texas not only top 5,,,could make them #1 in just 2-3 years time.:)

Taiwan as well has some young talented players that would probably like to come to the US and play tennis while studying at a University. But I would expect an up and coming team( like an Oregon) to unlock that market rather than a team like Texas.

Fedace 10-09-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clemson_tennis (Post 6053942)
Taiwan as well has some young talented players that would probably like to come to the US and play tennis while studying at a University. But I would expect an up and coming team( like an Oregon) to unlock that market rather than a team like Texas.

not really. they have the Spanish connection. Verdasco's cousin played there.

Clemson_tennis 10-10-2011 03:27 PM

I think you are being harsh on some of your players. You are underrating the quality of them. But this does look to be a down year coming up for the Longhorns

DaDave 10-10-2011 07:23 PM

I wonder if they were banking on having Jack Sock to help with the "transition year". I'm not sure if Jean Andersen going pro was expected (maybe it was eligibility stuff cuz i think he is 22 now??). If you had them at the top 2 and then w/ the supporting cast, i think they would be Top 5-7 team.

I was kind of sad to see Kellen Damico to have the kind of college career that he did. He had some good early Freshman results but kind of dropped afterwards.

I agree that they really need either Shane Vinsant or Mitchell Krueger. Anyone know where they are considering???

Clemson_tennis 10-10-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedace
He beat Marcos Horny of Baylor

Pretty much everyone beats Horny

tball2day 10-10-2011 09:24 PM

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10isplayer 10-11-2011 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaDave (Post 6055975)
I wonder if they were banking on having Jack Sock to help with the "transition year". I'm not sure if Jean Andersen going pro was expected (maybe it was eligibility stuff cuz i think he is 22 now??). If you had them at the top 2 and then w/ the supporting cast, i think they would be Top 5-7 team.

I was kind of sad to see Kellen Damico to have the kind of college career that he did. He had some good early Freshman results but kind of dropped afterwards.

I agree that they really need either Shane Vinsant or Mitchell Krueger. Anyone know where they are considering???

Oklahoma or Texas A&M i heard

ga tennis 10-11-2011 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ClarkC (Post 6053070)
Other than Manny Diaz, NCAA coaches know that you cannot recruit other teams' players.

Besides, some guys (like Andre Dome) go to a second-tier school so they can get more scholarship money. You seem to be assuming that a top player at a second-tier school is a good candidate for leaving. Texas might have a hard time offering enough scholarship money to get this kind of player.

They choose to play for MANNY. He doesnt go after them.

atatu 10-11-2011 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Vik (Post 6052987)
This will be the thread of the mighty Texas Longhorns tennis program. (mens mainly). Also known as the Shamehorn tennis thread. Remember when Texas was in the national title vs UGA and could have won? I would forgive you if you didn;t because now we are a shadow of that team. We have fallen hard. Now a team in the 10-15 range each year and this year will go even firthur south.

Looking at the 2012 upcoming year I see no cause for optimism.

It;s time for Center to go. We have regressed heavily. I warned back then not to recruit Ben Chen. i know he was a Texas boy but I saw his results. he loses to mediocre players all the time. got double bagaled by Blake Davis last year. Sitaram has been a bust. Olesen is ok but a plyer than should be playign for Texas Tech not Texas.

Meanwhile A&M, baylor get better and now Oklahoma is much better than us. We are the 4th best team in out conference now.

I'm a little surprised that there are only 8 guys on the roster right now, but I heard someone is coming in after the semester break. Did Mladenov turn pro or just leave the program, I think they were hoping he would be another Kutrovsky but it didn't happen I guess. Losing Andersen definitely hurt, especially when you lose Corrie and Damico at the same time. Center is s good coach, he gets the job done.

Vik 10-11-2011 06:46 AM

Careful with my username there ;)
As an A&M grad, here's my take on Texas tennis.
You have a bunch of mid to bottom of the lineup players on the roster. No foreigners to fill in the top spots like previous years. Anderson leaves early I guess, Vlasko transfers and Sitaram is just not very good. You crap out on your foreign recruits and bad things happen.

Whitehead
Sitaram
Chen
Olesen
Hilliard
Holiner

Is that the lineup? It doesn't look good. 4th in the conference would be a great result. You'll lose to Tech for sure. Should be a battle w/ Nebraska for 5th. 30-40 rank in the country.

But surely there is some help coming in at mid-year?

Vik 10-11-2011 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by atatu (Post 6056624)
I'm a little surprised that there are only 8 guys on the roster right now, but I heard someone is coming in after the semester break. Did Mladenov turn pro or just leave the program, I think they were hoping he would be another Kutrovsky but it didn't happen I guess. Losing Andersen definitely hurt, especially when you lose Corrie and Damico at the same time. Center is s good coach, he gets the job done.

Mladenov transferred to St Johns :-o


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