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gplracer 12-05-2011 05:04 AM

Improving footwork
 
My son is 9 years old. He turns 10 next summer. He is 5ft tall and moves reasonably well. He plays a lot of tennis and loves playing in tournaments. His footwork is the area that needs the most improvement. He works hard on the court and has his feet moving most of the time. Also, he could get a little stronger. How much at this age is appropriate when working on these areas. I am sure it is easy to do too much which could lead to injuries. Also, what would you recommend? I am sure there are some things that he could do that I am unaware of. Right now he does clinic two days a week, 30 min lesson on another day, and usually plays tennis on one or two more days.

Soianka 12-05-2011 05:09 AM

I recommend enrolling him in soccer.

andfor 12-05-2011 05:28 AM

There's some material on the internet. This is one of my favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHRwlPSspf0

Also, google search "modern footwork tennis".
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=16&g...w=1040&bih=636

BMC9670 12-05-2011 05:51 AM

Hey glp... are you after footwork to set up for strokes or general agility and getting the feet moving? I like andfor's links for technical footwork. I do a lot of agility with my kids as they are tall like yours and need to get their feet moving. I do the ladder a lot, which they like, and also a lot of movement "games" without the racket.

One of their favorites is what I call "space invaders". Have him stand on the service T with you at the net (on the same side) with a basket of balls. Hold the first 6 balls in your hands and roll them in random directions so that he has to shuffle and make them go through his legs. You'll notice on the harder ones he will cross over then shuffle, just like recovering from a shot out wide. Then take the next 6 balls and toss them so that he has to touch them on one bounce. Here, you can not only go side to side, but front and back to get him used to moving in all directions. You can start it easy and make it harder and harder. My kids love it and are getting great movement and cardio work at the same time.

Number1Coach 12-05-2011 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BMC9670 (Post 6159356)
Hey glp... are you after footwork to set up for strokes or general agility and getting the feet moving? I like andfor's links for technical footwork. I do a lot of agility with my kids as they are tall like yours and need to get their feet moving. I do the ladder a lot, which they like, and also a lot of movement "games" without the racket.

One of their favorites is what I call "space invaders". Have him stand on the service T with you at the net (on the same side) with a basket of balls. Hold the first 6 balls in your hands and roll them in random directions so that he has to shuffle and make them go through his legs. You'll notice on the harder ones he will cross over then shuffle, just like recovering from a shot out wide. Then take the next 6 balls and toss them so that he has to touch them on one bounce. Here, you can not only go side to side, but front and back to get him used to moving in all directions. You can start it easy and make it harder and harder. My kids love it and are getting great movement and cardio work at the same time.


Great idea , I would have him run stairs also low impact gets the feet light.

andfor 12-05-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Number1Coach (Post 6159460)
Great idea , I would have him run stairs also low impact gets the feet light.

Stairs are good. I also like plyrometrics. It's for the advanced and very committed involving depth and vertical jump exercises. I also like shadow stroking moving with the racquet and simulating hitting the ball, serves, groundstrokes and volleys. Shadow stroking is a good way to watch and correct footwork without the ball. Overall combining these with rope ladders, windsprints, rope jumping, cones and technical footwork drills certainly helps.

Then you have to simply get your player to move for every ball at matchpoint speed in practice. Good luck.

superfittennis 12-05-2011 10:22 AM

footwork
 
Unless you do something systematic and for a purpose, it is going to be a crapshoot as to whether your child will improve, get injured, or stay the same. You need to implement correct form, correct order of exercises, correct choices of exercises, and correct reps and sets. A fitness for tennis program can't involve simply doing a bit of this or that.

It is perhaps the fault of fitness trainers and tennis coaches for not getting together and then doing an appropriate job of sharing information with each other and then educating parents. Oftentimes tennis parents start understanding tennis, but fitness for tennis is a whole different ball game and it can get very confusing. :confused:

BMC9670 12-05-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by superfittennis (Post 6159867)
Unless you do something systematic and for a purpose, it is going to be a crapshoot as to whether your child will improve, get injured, or stay the same. You need to implement correct form, correct order of exercises, correct choices of exercises, and correct reps and sets. A fitness for tennis program can't involve simply doing a bit of this or that.

It is perhaps the fault of fitness trainers and tennis coaches for not getting together and then doing an appropriate job of sharing information with each other and then educating parents. Oftentimes tennis parents start understanding tennis, but fitness for tennis is a whole different ball game and it can get very confusing. :confused:

That said... any suggestions or resources? My kids are still young (under 10) so I simply try and incorporate general agility/movement and tennis specific movement into fun games. I also am consistent, which I think a lot of tennis parents aren't, in hopes it helps with their overall physical development. I realize in a few years, if and when they become more competitive, this will need to evolve into a progressive program of some form in order to be effective.

maggmaster 12-05-2011 11:58 AM

In my opinion, jump rope is the start. It is the simplest plyometric footwork tool. There are hundreds of variations, it is fun for kids and you will notice improvement in 6 weeks.

gplracer 12-05-2011 02:19 PM

Thanks for all of the opinions guys. BMC9670 I really like the space invader thingy. Maggmaster you are correct about the jump rope. The thing is that I know we can do a better job with fitness. We need to be consistent and have a weekly workout program that is beneficial and fun to do. We will do some stairs too. I saw this online: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCarne...29/tFplkVIqc0s

And this: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCarne...30/DsE6b5TyQko

donnymac10s 12-24-2011 05:32 PM

You mean lil' Johnny is not moving his feet and lessons and you think that if you throw money at a technical issue he will miraculously find some fire in his belly?

MethodTennis 12-24-2011 05:57 PM

fan drill, yoyo test, suicides. have fun

tennis5 12-24-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by donnymac10s (Post 6190440)
You mean lil' Johnny is not moving his feet and lessons and you think that if you throw money at a technical issue he will miraculously find some fire in his belly?

Are all your posts going to be sarcastic?

Or will you be actually offering some advice.

donnymac10s 12-24-2011 07:38 PM

[quote=tennis5;6190503]Are all your posts going to be sarcastic?

Or will you be actually offering some advice.[/]
Strong chance of continued sarcasm. Buy seriously..9yo..how about playing more tennis?

chalkflewup 12-25-2011 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by donnymac10s (Post 6190440)
You mean lil' Johnny is not moving his feet and lessons and you think that if you throw money at a technical issue he will miraculously find some fire in his belly?

You answered his question with a question which begs the question: Is that really your assessment of the situation?

Bendex 12-25-2011 03:10 AM

It can be very difficult to convince people to use many little steps between shots. Look at a great boxer's footwork, you need to move like that so your mind can put your body in exactly the right place at the right time.

You could try some unorthodox things, like have him shadow box, skip rope, generally stay bouncing on his toes for long periods of time while he does menial things around the house. A habit must be formed. :)

donnymac10s 12-25-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chalkflewup (Post 6190748)
You answered his question with a question which begs the question: Is that really your assessment of the situation?

It is. The kid is NINE years old and they are worrying about footwork. Kid just needs to spend more time on court... Which is normal. Any footwork that he needs can be adequately addressed through drills.

chalkflewup 12-25-2011 02:17 PM

Well drills are different than just playing more tennis. If you're playing using the wrong footwork, playing more tennis doesn't help the situation.

tennis5 12-25-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bendex (Post 6190763)
It can be very difficult to convince people to use many little steps between shots. Look at a great boxer's footwork, you need to move like that so your mind can put your body in exactly the right place at the right time.

You could try some unorthodox things, like have him shadow box, skip rope, generally stay bouncing on his toes for long periods of time while he does menial things around the house. A habit must be formed. :)

My son has never skipped rope. Tried 2 times, and gave up.

How often should a junior skip rope a week? For how long a session?

Thanks.

donnymac10s 12-25-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chalkflewup (Post 6191296)
Well drills are different than just playing more tennis. If you're playing using the wrong footwork, playing more tennis doesn't help the situation.

In that case it sounds like it's a coaching issue. There's NO reason why a 9yo cannot accomplish good footwork skills through tennis. The parents are obviously interested in long-term development to even consider spending additional cash on developing footwork skills. A good developmental coach should be able to address all issues - from tactical, technical, footwork, mental, emotional...you don't need a specialist at this age..just a coach who knows what he's doing.


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