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slice serve ace 03-19-2012 09:56 AM

Only 9 times in Federer's career...
 
...has he been aced 20 or more times in a match. And only ONE time over 30. In over 1000 matches. And he played tons of matches against players who routinely hit 20+ aces against others, but he shrinks them to Coria numbers sometimes. The latest victim, Isner, 4 aces?! This guy is insanely hard to ace.

Here, the list of the lucky ones who did it, except for that one who had 31 aces against him, let's see if anyone knows who it was:)


sampras in 01 wimbledon 26 aces

ljubičić in 03 basel 27 aces

verkerk in 03 paris 24 aces

ljubičić in 06 miami 21 aces

karlović in 08 cincinnati 22 aces

karlović in 09 wimbledon 23 aces

roddick in 09 wimbledon 27 aces

f.lopez in 11 madrid (clay) 23 aces

and the guy with the weird ball toss 31 aces

Tomxc 03-19-2012 10:05 AM

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Share/Ma...010&r=2&p=BA57

Jonny S&V 03-19-2012 10:06 AM

Of course he's hard to ace, he has probably the best stab-return of all time. Most guys like to go the Agassi-route (get aced but also be aggressive on the balls they do get ahold of).

slice serve ace 03-19-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomxc (Post 6407525)


hehe, that was quick

bozoljac, yes

Tammo 03-19-2012 10:14 AM

Are there any stats for Agassi, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray?

Jonny S&V 03-19-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tammo (Post 6407546)
Are there any stats for Agassi, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray?

The only one I have off the top of my head is Agassi, who I believe has a 50+ ace match (Johansson), and was aced semi-regularly (although when he got his racquet on the ball, he was very successful).

slice serve ace 03-19-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tammo (Post 6407546)
Are there any stats for Agassi, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray?


it would be interesting to know for murray, hewitt, and edberg ( if i recall correctly, he was hard to ace)

on top of my head, roddick had once 31 aces against hewitt, and karlović 55
goran aced edberg 30+ atleast twice
can't remember for murray or djoko

Carsomyr 03-19-2012 10:37 AM

Nadal was aced over 30 times in Queen's by Karlovic, and over 30 times in Madrid against Ljubicic off the top of my head.

MichaelNadal 03-19-2012 11:01 AM

Fed is the GOAT returner of big servers for sure.

slice serve ace 03-20-2012 11:24 AM

stats for murray - he has been aced 20 or more only 4 times, 30 or more, never:shock:
he played 447 matches

roddick, 06 wimbledon, 21 aces
karlović, 07 san jose, 26 aces
almagro, 08 roland garros, 21 aces
roddick, 09 wimbledon, 21 aces


stats for djokovic - 20 or more 9 times, 1 time over 30, in 521 matches
5 times at the us open, interesting


monfils, 05 us open, 22 aces
stepanek, 06 rotterdam, 20 aces
ančić, 06 wimbledon, 31 aces
fish, 06 us open, 21 aces
čilić, 08 us open, 20 aces
federer, 08 us open, 20 aces
karlović, 08 madrid, 20 aces
troicki, 10 us open, 23 aces
isner, 12 indian wells, 20 aces

Mustard 03-20-2012 11:36 AM

Federer is lucky he never faced prime Goran. Even Agassi got aced 37 times in the 1992 Wimbledon final.

dudeski 03-20-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6410227)
Federer is lucky he never faced prime Goran. Even Agassi got aced 37 times in the 1992 Wimbledon final.

Well Federer would be lucky to face Goran instead of Nadal.

akv89 03-20-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6410227)
Federer is lucky he never faced prime Goran. Even Agassi got aced 37 times in the 1992 Wimbledon final.

Agassi was a great returner but at the same time had plenty of matches where he was aced quite often due to his aggressive return stance near the baseline.

I would think Monfils would have pretty impressive numbers in this category. As far as I know, he's the only person to play a full match against Karlovic and not get aced.

dudeski 03-20-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by akv89 (Post 6410250)
Agassi was a great returner but at the same time had plenty of matches where he was aced quite often due to his aggressive return stance near the baseline.

I would think Monfils would have pretty impressive numbers in this category. As far as I know, he's the only person to play a full match against Karlovic and not get aced.

Yeah he got aced more than 50 times in a 4 set match at relatively slow AO by Pim Pim.

NamRanger 03-20-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6410227)
Federer is lucky he never faced prime Goran. Even Agassi got aced 37 times in the 1992 Wimbledon final.



http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/...=F324&oId=I034


Baby Federer owned a veteran Goran on indoor carpet and on HC.


Please. And Agassi is notorious for getting aced alot; that's because his aggressive positioning and guessing gets him aced alot; however he makes it up by breaking alot when he gets his racquet on the ball.

sportsfan1 03-20-2012 11:59 AM

Would {aces} + {Service winners} + [optionally, winner hit on Return of serve] against the returner be a better indication of success on ROS/as a returner? Of course, no such stats are probably available :(

Mike Sams 03-20-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal (Post 6407669)
Fed is the GOAT returner of big servers for sure.

And the worst at converting BPs. :lol:
1/17 in BP conversions against Nadal at FO 2007
1/12 in BP conversions against Nadal at Wimby 2008

Mustard 03-20-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NamRanger (Post 6410268)
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/...=F324&oId=I034


Baby Federer owned a veteran Goran on indoor carpet and on HC.


Please. And Agassi is notorious for getting aced alot; that's because his aggressive positioning and guessing gets him aced alot; however he makes it up by breaking alot when he gets his racquet on the ball.

Goran was in a dark place from the start of 2000 until the start of 2001 Wimbledon. That was Goran at his worst, playing awfully, in frequent sulks and having to retire from one match due to smashing all the racquets in his bag. The lowest point was at the 2001 Australian Open, where Goran flew for 22 hours, lost in the first qualifier, and then flew back another 22 hours.

If you don't believe me, just check Goran's results in that period. They are awful, to say the least.

TMF 03-20-2012 12:08 PM

Agassi was aced 51 times by Johansson and 46 times by Philippoussis.

Karlovic would have a field day against Agassi.

TMF 03-20-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6410227)
Federer is lucky he never faced prime Goran. Even Agassi got aced 37 times in the 1992 Wimbledon final.

The most aces Goran ever handed Federer was 11.


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