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kishnabe 07-18-2012 02:15 PM

Tipsarevic: " Junior Boy will crush Serena Williams"
 
Tipsarevic: Good junior could crush Serena
Ticker - Wednesday, July 18, 2012



Janko Tipsarevic tells the publication Berner Zeitung that female tennis players should not be paid the same as men, and also takes a swipe at the quality of women's play.

"Men's tennis is currently in the top four in terms of quality and popularity, its at its peak, just like golf when Tiger Woods dominated. In the women's tennis its very different," he said. "I do not underestimate the achievements of Victoria Azarenka and the others, but their best time is over. That was when the Williams sisters, Kim Clijsters, Justine Henin and Amelie Mauresmo were at the top. I don't even want to talk about (the fact) that a good junior could beat Serena 6-1, 6-2. But I think it's simply ridiculous that women earn on the same at the Grand Slam events."


http://www.tennis.com/articles/templ...8843&zoneid=25

I don't think any Junior can....they would be scared of Serena the first time.

Doubles 07-18-2012 02:17 PM

I agree with Janko. Obviously I couldn't beat a WTA pro, but a top junior who could compete with lower level ATP pros should be able to easily handle the top females. Their level of play is so much lower.

kragster 07-18-2012 02:18 PM

I think a top 200 would crush Serena but definitely not a junior. Tipsy must have been real tipsy when making that statement.

Doubles 07-18-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kragster (Post 6736570)
I think a top 200 would crush Serena but definitely not a junior. Tipsy must have been real tipsy when making that statement.

Against a top 200 player who was actually trying, she might be lucky to get two, maybe three points in a set.

wilkinru 07-18-2012 02:22 PM

I wouldn't mind them shaving off say, 20% from the woman's side - but they'd need to take it off the top of the prize money.

Gotta pay the lower ranks to have a tour...

Why aren't the women doing best of 5 with a 5th set being a tiebreaker or something in majors?

athleticstennis 07-18-2012 02:25 PM

No, I dont think Tipsarevic is wrong. He has practiced with various good junior players like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zu-Y...3&feature=plcp
and knows the level of these guys.
This guy top 50 ITF at that time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfEiycpNS4
beat Justine Henin 6-2 in a practice set in RG 5 years ago so I believe it. He is currently like 300 ATP. Maybe top juniors wont beat Serena as easy as Tipsarevic says but still I think they will beat her.

JW10S 07-18-2012 02:27 PM

Have people forgotten when Serena and Venus challenged #200 ranked Kaarsten Brasch? I believe he beat Serena 6-1 & Venus 6-2 without much effort. Despite all the 'Serena could play on the men's tour' talk the truth is she would be unlikely to win an international junior event playing against the boys.

Evan77 07-18-2012 02:28 PM

nothing new. Tipsy is right, like it or not. any 5.0 guy would smoke any female player regardless if her name is Serena or Sceamarenka. this has been discussed to death already. Janko might not sound politically correct he but he he knows what he is talking about.

The WTA is probably at all times low. I couldn't care less. Bring back Navratilova/Evert or Seles/Graf ... I would be very interested, but right now, meh ...

Seany 07-18-2012 02:31 PM

If she served well, it's be difficult to break her, no matter who you are, even Djokovic or Fed, doesn't matter what gender you are if there are 120+ mph serves smack on the tee...

If she didn't serve well on the other hand, most likely would be 6-0 6-0

Apart from that, Tipsy is completely right as it regards to every other WTA player.

kragster 07-18-2012 02:31 PM

I saw Serena serving regular at 115 mph and above in her Wimby matches. I'm pretty sure that's faster than the junior boys.

Why would she not at least hold her serve a few times?

BigT 07-18-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JW10S (Post 6736594)
Have people forgotten when Serena and Venus challenged #200 ranked Kaarsten Brasch? I believe he beat Serena 6-1 & Venus 6-2 without much effort. Despite all the 'Serena could play on the men's tour' talk the truth is she would be unlikely to win an international junior event playing against the boys.

And that was with a beer and cig on changeovers...

jamesblakefan#1 07-18-2012 02:41 PM

People need to understand that equal pay isn't about level of play or even amt of sponsors for the slams, it's all about PR and it would be practical PR suicide for the slams to reverse it now. Love it or hate it, the equal pay is here to stay regardless. Wertheim made a great point in his article a few weeks ago in that the men and women players should really be arguing for more total prize money given the revenue the slams generate.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ten...liams-mailbag/

Legend of Borg 07-18-2012 02:43 PM

No real discussion here, just some men beating their chests and making noise.

edberg505 07-18-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kragster (Post 6736607)
I saw Serena serving regular at 115 mph and above in her Wimby matches. I'm pretty sure that's faster than the junior boys.

Why would she not at least hold her serve a few times?

I think you should have watched the AO and Wimby juniors. Those kids can easily get their serves up to 115. Hell, the number one junior in the state where I'm from when I was a junior there was serving that with no problem.

Alzer 07-18-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 6736623)
And that was with a beer and cig on changeovers...

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=21533

fed_rulz 07-18-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1 (Post 6736632)
People need to understand that equal pay isn't about level of play or even amt of sponsors for the slams, it's all about PR and it would be practical PR suicide for the slams to reverse it now. Love it or hate it, the equal pay is here to stay regardless. Wertheim made a great point in his article a few weeks ago in that the men and women players should really be arguing for more total prize money given the revenue the slams generate.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ten...liams-mailbag/

the fans may understand it, but the players don't have to. men's tennis players must feel like 2nd class citizens everytime they find the women drawing the same amount of money from a common purse, when they contribute relatively little towards filling it!

ZeroSkid 07-18-2012 03:02 PM

I def think a junior could crush serena, it is just a totally different level

ZeroSkid 07-18-2012 03:03 PM

I would like to see radwanska vs a junior lol

SoCalJay 07-18-2012 03:09 PM

That's one of the things I've always liked about Tipsy... He's not afraid to say something that isn't PC and cares little for what people think.

ZeroSkid 07-18-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalJay (Post 6736688)
That's one of the things I've always liked about Tipsy... He's not afraid to say something that isn't PC and cares little for what people think.

totally agree


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