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papertank 07-19-2012 06:28 PM

Where do you rank Nadal on the GOAT list?
 
I would put him at #5 behind Federer, Laver, Sampras and Borg.

kishnabe 07-19-2012 06:29 PM

I would put him on par with Borg so Number 4 or 5.Though pretty soon he will be 2 or 3.

Federererer 07-19-2012 06:32 PM

1) Federer
2) Borg
3) Laver
4) Sampras
5) Nadal

Towser83 07-19-2012 07:09 PM

Federer and Laver would be up there in joint first - hard to compare eras,so I can't say who is better of the 2.

After that Sampras, Borg and Nadal are all very close. I think Nadal is sneaking ahead of Borg and will soon be ahead of Sampras.

Borg didn't have a career slam but he did win on grass and clay when the differences were extreme. Sampras has 14 majors but no RG (no final even). If Nadal wins 2 more slams he's probably ahead of both Sampras and Borg,.

drakulie 07-19-2012 07:30 PM

Not so sure anymore of how I would rate, but here goes:

1. Federer
2. Sampras
3. laver
4. nadal
5. Borg

ZeroSkid 07-19-2012 07:33 PM

1. Nadal
2. Sampras
3. Laver/Borg
4. Lendl
5. Connors
6. Federer(why so low?, because he won slams in a weak field)

kishnabe 07-19-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroSkid (Post 6739944)
1. Nadal
2. Sampras
3. Laver/Borg
4. Lendl
5. Connors
6. Federer(why so low?, because he won slams in a weak field)

OKAY :rolleyes:....When Nadal won his first major in 05. Federer had won 13 slams after that. That should put him above Nadal, Connors and Lendl.

If Federer slams from 05-12 is in a weak era. Then Nadal 11 slams are in a weak era. Then both should be at the bottom of the list...with Federer being better than Nadal.

How in the hell is Nadal above Sampras. Sampras won 14 slams in a tough era....Nadal has 11.

The-Champ 07-19-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroSkid (Post 6739944)
1. Nadal
2. Sampras
3. Laver/Borg
4. Lendl
5. Connors
6. Federer(why so low?, because he won slams in a weak field)

Federer doesn't deserve that. Just because he is 2-8 in majors H2H against crippled clay courter, doesn't mean he wouldn't have beaten him in Basel. :D

OrangePower 07-19-2012 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papertank (Post 6739792)
I would put him at #5 behind Federer, Laver, Sampras and Borg.

Agree. Although not sure who I'd put first between Federer and Laver. But those two followed by Sampras and Borg. If/when Rafa gets another slam or two I would move him above Borg. To consider moving him above Pete, I think he would need another 4, preferably not all at the FO.

DoubleDeuce 07-19-2012 08:44 PM

Have to wait till he retires.

If he ends up with less than 14 he is lower than Sam.

NGM 07-19-2012 08:57 PM

Pretty high. Only below Fed, Laver and Sampras.

TMF 07-19-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangePower (Post 6740119)
Agree. Although not sure who I'd put first between Federer and Laver. But those two followed by Sampras and Borg. If/when Rafa gets another slam or two I would move him above Borg. To consider moving him above Pete, I think he would need another 4, preferably not all at the FO.

This is the same question was ask when Roger won his 14 slams back in 2009. Now that he won 17 slams, add a few more WTF and broke the 286 weeks at #1 and some of you are still not sure if he's ahead of Laver ?:confused:

Roger have accomplished since 2009 up to now is a dream career for 99.99% of the players on the tour and for sure he would make the HOF. Meanwhile Laver has gain nothing since he retire in the 70s.

USOpenfan 07-19-2012 08:58 PM

1)Federer
2)Sampras
3)Borg
4)Laver
5)Nadal
My list for the moment..changes from year to year.

ductrung3993 07-19-2012 09:03 PM

Fed >>> Sampras > Laver >> Borg ~ Nadal, imo.

Talker 07-19-2012 09:05 PM

1)Federer


2)Sampras

3)Borg/Laver
5)Nadal

TMF 07-19-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USOpenfan (Post 6740146)
1)Federer
2)Sampras
3)Borg
4)Laver
5)Nadal
My list for the moment..changes from year to year.

Thank you.

Funny when Nadal continue to win every year his ranking is moving upward at a rapid pace but for Fed it stay the same which doesn't get to move ahead of Laver(according to some fans, not to mention the old-timers in the former pro talk forum). Go figure.

Towser83 07-19-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroSkid (Post 6739944)
1. Nadal
2. Sampras
3. Laver/Borg
4. Lendl
5. Connors
6. Federer(why so low?, because he won slams in a weak field)

Nadal's main rival was a guy who only won slams in a weak era. That's rather bad.

Plus all of Nadal's slams were won in Fed's era. Fed won his first slam before Nadal's first, and won his most recent slam after nadal's most recent.

:oops:

Agassifan 07-19-2012 09:22 PM

#5 if he retired right now, but lot of potential to move up

forzamilan90 07-19-2012 09:30 PM

he's up there in the list
Tier 1: Federer, Laver
Tier 2: Gonzalez, Sampras, Rosewall, Borg, Nadal, Tilden

OrangePower 07-19-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMF (Post 6740145)
This is the same question was ask when Roger won his 14 slams back in 2009. Now that he won 17 slams, add a few more WTF and broke the 286 weeks at #1 and some of you are still not sure if he's ahead of Laver ?:confused:

Roger have accomplished since 2009 up to now is a dream career for 99.99% of the players on the tour and for sure he would make the HOF. Meanwhile Laver has gain nothing since he retire in the 70s.

VEry hard to compare, since Laver could not compete in grand slams during his prime 5/6 years (pros were not allowed to compete during this period). To put this in context, he won the calendar year grand slam as an amateur when he was 23/24, and then again as a pro when he was 30/31 (by then pros we allowed to compete). No way to know what Laver could have achieved if he could have played the slams in those 5/6 years in between. So for me Fed and Laver are joint GOATS and I can't pick one over the other.


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