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ga tennis 08-21-2012 07:18 AM

Chiropractor
 
I took my daughter yesterday to have her checked out because she was complaining about her finger and the pain shooting up her arm.He said that she was totally out of alignment.He adjusted her and said he needs to see her for the next 3 days and once a month after that.He said he thinks we need to slow down on the training.Has anyone else taken their kid to the chiropractor and what do you think about chiropractors?THANKS!!!

TeflonTom 08-21-2012 07:41 AM

chiropractic is dangerous snake oil

any parent who takes their kid to one of the two-bit con artists who shill it is irresponsible

maggmaster 08-21-2012 07:44 AM

Yea I would really reccomend taking her to an MD with a specialization in sports injury.

scraps234 08-21-2012 07:44 AM

Yeah chiropractics can be very dangerous depending on who it is... i always went to orthopedic specialists and hpysical therapists but that wasnt for my arm...

ga tennis 08-21-2012 08:16 AM

So Should I Not Take Her Back Today?

jonnythan 08-21-2012 08:19 AM

No, don't take her back. Even good chiropractic is highly limited in scope of practice and this guy is just outright scamming you. Take her to a real sports medicine specialist.

tacoben 08-21-2012 08:25 AM

Kaiser Permenente, one of the biggest if not the biggest, health care service providers now provides Chiropractor services...so, the practice itself has come a long ways in acceptance in the medical field. But to your question, I personally would prefer to have your daughter examined by a pediatrician who can refer her to a sports related doctor. Also, has your daughter been examined for pronated feet? If she has that, her alighnment could be off, which can lead to problems in the knees, hips, back and neck. My daughter was found to have pronated feet correctable by an orthotic. Anyway, I'm not a doctor but I did sleep at the holiday inn....;-)

TeflonTom 08-21-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoben (Post 6822936)
Kaiser Permenente, one of the biggest if not the biggest, health care service providers now provides Chiropractor services

and jesus wept

tacoben 08-21-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TeflonTom (Post 6822946)
and jesus wept

oh no he didn't.

TeflonTom 08-21-2012 08:41 AM

there is still no clinical evidence supportin anythin chiros do

insurance companies have their own reasons for allowin stuff 2 be claimed, doesnt necessarily mean they are medically accepted. some hmos cover acupuncture and homeopathy as well

its a sad state of affairs but we live in a country where most of the adults believe in an invisible friend in the sky, so its best not to hope for too much critical thinkin by the majority

Number1Coach 08-21-2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TeflonTom (Post 6822967)
there is still no clinical evidence supportin anythin chiros do

insurance companies have their own reasons for allowin stuff 2 be claimed, doesnt necessarily mean they are medically accepted. some hmos cover acupuncture and homeopathy as well

its a sad state of affairs but we live in a country where most of the adults believe in an invisible friend in the sky, so its best not to hope for too much critical thinkin by the majority

You probably believe G.Washington was our 1st president even though you never seen him right?

INTO10s 08-21-2012 09:08 AM

Just like in all professions there are good professionals and bad. Chiropirators are a legit profession but you can expect that they will find something wrong related to posture, vertabra misalignment etc. Just like if you go to a surgeon he will likely provide you with surgical options vs a therapeutic approach.

As a Dr myself, I would suggest you see an orthopedic Dr, preferably one that specializes in sports injuries. You are likely going to get a totally different diagnosis then the chiropractic, they may both be right and wrong, they are just looking at things from a different medical view point. Then, if you are uncomfortable with the diagnosis or their evaluation then just get a 2nd opinion. If similar diagnosis then you will feel more comfortable taking the next necessary step.

Have you considered that her finger and arm pain may be solely due to her recent grip change.

TeflonTom 08-21-2012 09:12 AM

how can u be a doctor and say with a straight face that chiro is a legit profession?

their whole 'professional' philosophy is based on vitalistic hocus pocus that is totally contradictory to evidence-based medicine

ga tennis 08-21-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by INTO10s (Post 6823012)
Just like in all professions there are good professionals and bad. Chiropirators are a legit profession but you can expect that they will find something wrong related to posture, vertabra misalignment etc. Just like if you go to a surgeon he will likely provide you with surgical options vs a therapeutic approach.

As a Dr myself, I would suggest you see an orthopedic Dr, preferably one that specializes in sports injuries. You are likely going to get a totally different diagnosis then the chiropractic, they may both be right and wrong, they are just looking at things from a different medical view point. Then, if you are uncomfortable with the diagnosis or their evaluation then just get a 2nd opinion. If similar diagnosis then you will feel more comfortable taking the next necessary step.

Have you considered that her finger and arm pain may be solely due to her recent grip change.

The physical therapist said her finger and wrist pain was probably due to her grip change.I just felt like it was something nerve related because it spread up her arm.

t135 08-21-2012 10:00 AM

They are good for some things, but not everything. People who don't believe in wholistic approaches to medicine and pain management, and who think they know everything already, will generally hate chiropractors and everything they stand for. I would encourage you to not be so shallow.

At this point all professional sports (and teams), the US military, etc etc, employ the use of chiropractic care. Insurance companies (major and minor) offer chiropractic care benefits. And there is not doubt that chiropractic medicine is mainstream at this point. Any failure to acknowledge it at this point is strictly due to lack of knowledge.

There are good ones and not so good ones, just like in everything else in life. The good ones blend physical therapy and massage therapy into their treatment. And know when to say no...they know when they can't really help. Worst case is when you get one who makes a problem worse because they don't now when to say no.

If you're going to use one, ask everybody you know for a recommendation. If there are any major/professional sports teams in your area, find out who they use. And be smart enough to know when you need to see an orthopedic doctor.

t135 08-21-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ga tennis (Post 6823034)
The physical therapist said her finger and wrist pain was probably due to her grip change.I just felt like it was something nerve related because it spread up her arm.

I should have said that if I were in your situation I would take my child to an orthopedic doctor first. See how that goes and see if they recommend physical therapy. See what the physical therapist has to say/do. And if she doesn't get relief quickly after all that, then find the best chiropractor within 100 miles of your house.

ga tennis 08-21-2012 10:08 AM

Thanks Everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

INTO10s 08-21-2012 10:17 AM

I do suspect that it is related to the grip change and not caused by any nerve damage or ligament tear or stretch. Her hand & forearm muscle/ligaments are being used differently so fatigue and soreness is to be expected during this transition. As long as there is no localized areas or points of pain then all she may need is a little rest before getting back into it. She may benefit to doing some specific stretches or low weight exercises for her arm to help her cope better to the change. I suggest you discuss this problem with HW, I would expect that he has encountered this before and he should be able to some adjustment in her training to minimize the problem while still working on the grip change + he could suggest some helpful exercises.

jonnythan 08-21-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by t135 (Post 6823107)
And know when to say no...they know when they can't really help. Worst case is when you get one who makes a problem worse because they don't now when to say no.

That's the problem. Very few of them will turn someone away and say "that's something I really can't help with." Finger to arm pain is not something you should be seeing a chiro as primary treatment for.

SFrazeur 08-21-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ga tennis (Post 6822794)
I took my daughter yesterday to have her checked out because she was complaining about her finger and the pain shooting up her arm. He said that she was totally out of alignment.He adjusted her and said he needs to see her for the next 3 days and once a month after that.He said he thinks we need to slow down on the training.Has anyone else taken their kid to the chiropractor and what do you think about chiropractors?THANKS!!!

Ignore the haters and the ignorant. For someone with major misalignment (spinal, hip, etc) it is not unusual for a Chiropractor at first to need to see a patient multiple times in a short period of time. As said before there are good and bad doctors and the same applies for Doctors of Chiropractic.

A Chiropractor and their clinic should be as professional as a Medical Doctor and their clinic. If this Chiro is wearing puka-shells and flip-flops run the other way around.


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