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dangalak 09-17-2012 04:58 PM

Who was Lendl's biggest rival?
 
I always wondered.

Mustard 09-17-2012 05:25 PM

John McEnroe.

krosero 09-17-2012 05:29 PM

Brad Gilbert.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/...=L018&oId=G016
:)

BobbyOne 09-17-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dangalak (Post 6905142)
I always wondered.

Lew Hoad. Ask Dan Lobb!

krosero 09-17-2012 06:09 PM

Jan Kodes.

dangalak 09-17-2012 06:24 PM

No seriously. It's probably between Becker, McEnroe, Connors and Wilander.

If McEnroe is Lendl's biggest rival, was McEnroe's biggest rival Lendl? :?

Mustard 09-17-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dangalak (Post 6905324)
If McEnroe is Lendl's biggest rival, was McEnroe's biggest rival Lendl? :?

Tough to say. Lendl, Connors and Borg all have good cases to be McEnroe's biggest rival. I was more certain that Lendl's biggest rival was McEnroe because McEnroe was the best player in that period where Lendl was looking to take over as the world's best.

When McEnroe was looking to become the world's best, Borg stood in his way, but McEnroe and Borg got along personally and the rivalry was shortlived due to Borg's early departure from the sport. McEnroe's rivalry with Connors was fiery and intense, while McEnroe's rivalry with Lendl was more of a disdain for one another. McEnroe and Lendl are from the same generation, so that's something else to take into account.

gavna 09-17-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6905203)
John McEnroe.

Yeah Johnny McEnroe for sure.......those WCT finals from Reunion Arena were classics and you could feel the hate from both of them in the stands.

kiki 09-17-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6905203)
John McEnroe.

Mac in general terms.but terrific rivalries with Becker indoors and grass,Wilander on clay and Connors on hard

kiki 09-17-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard (Post 6905203)
John McEnroe.

Mac in general terms.but terrific rivalries with Becker indoors and grass,Wilander on clay and Connors on hard as well as Cash on hard

TheFifthSet 09-18-2012 01:34 AM

I don't think he's his biggest rival, but I always felt Becker sort of played the foil to Lendl, much like Nadal did to Federer. Lendl was superior to Becker as a player, just as I feel Federer is superior to Nadal, yet Becker won the majority of the big matches....although Lendl led the overall head to head 11-10, he was 1-5 in majors and 0-3 at Wimbledon.

Nadal_Power 09-18-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFifthSet (Post 6905825)
I don't think he's his biggest rival, but I always felt Becker sort of played the foil to Lendl, much like Nadal did to Federer. Lendl was superior to Becker as a player, just as I feel Federer is superior to Nadal, yet Becker won the majority of the big matches....although Lendl led the overall head to head 11-10, he was 1-5 in majors and 0-3 at Wimbledon.

Well said :)

TheFifthSet 09-18-2012 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nadal_Power (Post 6905832)
Well said :)

Thank you. :)

kiki 09-18-2012 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by krosero (Post 6905281)
Jan Kodes.

During his first years could be as well

kiki 09-18-2012 03:20 AM

The only guys of the big names of the 80 that Lendl did have a small rivalry were Borg and Edberg, with Borg it would have been huge but Borg quit before it reached epic proportions

NLBwell 09-18-2012 04:30 AM

McEnroe because of the hate factor.

SystemicAnomaly 09-18-2012 04:52 AM

Lendl had a winning h2h record with many of his rivals

Lend vs rival
. 21 - 15 ... J McEnroe
. 22 - 13 ... J Connors
. 13 - 14 ... S Edberg
. 15 - 07 ... M Wilander
. 11 - 10 ... B Becker
. 02 - 06 ... B Borg

pc1 09-18-2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by krosero (Post 6905211)

I know you're joking but years ago I heard a radio interview with Gilbert in which he said Lendl was the player he found toughest to play.

Gilbert thought Lendl had perhaps the best serve in tennis not necessarily because of the power but also because of the variety.

Limpinhitter 09-18-2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by krosero (Post 6905281)
Jan Kodes.

Hahaha! Of course.

Limpinhitter 09-18-2012 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dangalak (Post 6905324)
No seriously. It's probably between Becker, McEnroe, Connors and Wilander.

If McEnroe is Lendl's biggest rival, was McEnroe's biggest rival Lendl? :?

Connors was past his prime before Lendl came into his. Although Connors continued to compete for another 7-8 years after he was passed his prime, he was clearly not as great as he was in the 70's up to 82'.

You might make the same argument for McEnroe. Lendl's prime began in about 1984. After 1984, Mac's level of play dropped off just enough to make him something less than an all time great from there on out. IMO, it was caused by cocaine abuse. If not for that, both McEnroe's and Lendl's careers would not look like they do in retrospect.

Wilander's prime coincided with Lendl's and, IMO, Lendl was clearly the better player.

Becker's peak also coincided with Lendl's, although Becker was a bit younger. Becker may have had a slightly higher level of play at his absolute peak, but, Lendl was the more consistent champion between the two.


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