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TennisNola 09-20-2012 12:13 PM

Reconsideration of USTA Junior Competition Changes
 
http://tennisrecruiting.net/article.asp?id=1543

tennis5 09-20-2012 12:42 PM

Special Announcement:
 
WOW....... Did the USTA hear the uprising... Can I venture to guess that the Taylor Townsend debacle is giving them pause?
Junior Tennis in this country might be saved after all :)

NEWS & FEATURES

Special Announcement
Reconsideration of USTA Junior Competition Changes
by TennisRecruiting.net, 20 September 2012

Tennis Recruiting received the following communication on Thursday afternoon, September 20, 2012.



http://tennisrecruiting.net/article.asp?id=1543

This week, a group of people concerned with junior tennis - Steve Bellamy, Robert Sasseville and Kevin Kempin - were able to spend several hours speaking with USTA leadership (i.e., Dave Haggerty, Gordon Smith, Kurt Kamperman) about the planned upcoming changes to USTA Junior Competition. That group is pleased to say that there was a very open and candid exchange of ideas.

The group shared many, if not all, of its concerns about the proposed new competitive structure, and the USTA definitely listened. The group also got a better understanding of the USTA's long-term objectives for making these changes. Long story short, the group requested that the USTA hit the "pause button" for the 2013-2014 junior comp changes before instituting them. That approach would obviously come with some procedural challenges for the USTA, but the USTA was open to the recommendation and said they will discuss it internally and give it full consideration.

In addition, the USTA acknowledged that, moving forward, they wanted to seek input from a broader group of constituents, i.e. parents, college coaches, and tournament directors. To that end, the USTA will be getting back to the group with some suggestions. All in all, the feeling is that the meetings with the USTA were very productive, and the group believes that everyone should hit the "pause button" for a short time to allow the USTA to come back with their plans for moving forward. Recognizing that time is of the essence, the group expects to hear back from the USTA within the next two weeks.

db10s 09-20-2012 02:53 PM

Time to guess PMac's username!

treeman10 09-20-2012 03:35 PM

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treeman10 09-20-2012 03:48 PM

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10ismom 09-20-2012 04:08 PM

Thank you USTA for listening!

ClarkC 09-20-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treeman10 (Post 6910953)
(The percentages she lists expose it all.....math is a good thing.)

Colette Lewis on top of this one: From Zoo Tennis:

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The plan as approved in March drastically decreases the number of national opportunities, where playing against others from all sections is possible, for all age groups. Here are some hard numbers on that:

BG18s 3232 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2432 in 2012 -> 542 in 2014
Only 16.77% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2690 opportunities or a decrease of 83.23%

Could someone please define what "opportunities" means in the context of this discussion?

10ismom 09-20-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkC (Post 6910975)
Could someone please define what "opportunities" means in the context of this discussion?

I believe it's the cumulative numbers of draw sizes of all level 1,2,3 tournaments scheduled in that age group.

Alohajrtennis 09-20-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkC (Post 6910975)
Could someone please define what "opportunities" means in the context of this discussion?

An opportunity to play in a tournament. 128 draw = 128 opportunities.

ClarkC 09-20-2012 04:22 PM

So the draw sizes will add up to an odd number in some of the age groups?

jrtennis 09-20-2012 04:23 PM

Exactly. The number of spots available in level 1, 2 and 3 tournaments. Thank God the USTA seems to be listening.

Misterbill 09-20-2012 04:25 PM

Colette Lewis (as posted above):

No one has asked me, but I would much rather the USTA go to the standard worldwide tennis format of qualifying tournaments immediately preceding any and all major national events. If the majority of selections are made by sectional endorsements/rankings and a national ranking list, I would be delighted to see a 128-draw with 16 qualifiers, just like the US Open, here in Kalamazoo for the boys 16 and 18 Nationals.


I could get on board with something like this. But I wonder if it would satisfy the three main areas of concern with the current changes, as stated by others?

1. Not enough family travel opportunities to National tournaments
2. Inconvenience and expense for college recruiters
3. Not enough variety of opponents

db10s 09-20-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrtennis (Post 6910988)
Exactly. The number of spots available in level 1, 2 and 3 tournaments. Thank God the USTA seems to be listening.

I wonder who came up with THAT brilliant idea :rolleyes:

tennis5 09-20-2012 04:26 PM

I do enjoy reading the comments on articles on Zoo Tennis.
Here is the comment from this article:

They govern themselves, commentate on their players, and coach their players against other members.
Judging by their players record and ...mostly behavior on court, there is very little regulation or results.

We the masses really loathe the USTA.
We really do.
We have so much ammunition it's just makes skeptics out of the best of us


I couldn't pass this by.....

jrtennis 09-20-2012 04:27 PM

Yes there will be odd numbers in one age group (16s, i think) because of the allotment that group gets for the new "grand masters" is uneven

tennis5 09-20-2012 04:28 PM

BG18s 3232 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2432 in 2012 -> 542 in 2014
Only 16.77% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2690 opportunities – or a decrease of 83.23%

B16s 3104 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2432 in 2012 -> 583 in 2014
Only 18.78% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2521 opportunities – or a decrease of 81.22%

G16s 3072 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2432 in 2012 -> 583 in 2014
Only 18.75% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2489 opportunities – or a decrease of 81.25%

B14s
2944 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2304 in 2012 -> 580 in 2014
Only 19.70% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2364 opportunities – or a decrease of 80.30%

G14s 2976 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2304 in 2012 -> 580 in 2014
Only 19.49% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2396 opportunities – or a decrease of 80.51%

BG12s 2656 national opportunities in 2009 -> 2304 in 2012 -> 416 in 2014
Only 15.66% of the opportunities will remain in 2014 vs. 2009
This is a reduction of 2240 opportunities – or a decrease of 84.34%


Folks, what is very important to note here in these numbers,
is that some of the tournaments have been lost forever,
unless the USTA goes back to the system before 2010.

HIGH-TECH TENNIS 09-20-2012 07:06 PM

Never, never saw this coming: "The feeling is that the meetings with the USTA were very productive, and the group believes that everyone should hit the "pause button" for a short time to allow the USTA to come back with their plans for moving forward. Recognizing that time is of the essence, the group expects to hear back from the USTA within the next two weeks." Read more here and post your <hopefully positive> comment: http://tennisrecruiting.net/article.asp?I
d=1543

Alohajrtennis 09-20-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIGH-TECH TENNIS (Post 6911168)
Never, never saw this coming: "The feeling is that the meetings with the USTA were very productive, and the group believes that everyone should hit the "pause button" for a short time to allow the USTA to come back with their plans for moving forward. Recognizing that time is of the essence, the group expects to hear back from the USTA within the next two weeks." Read more here and post your <hopefully positive> comment: http://tennisrecruiting.net/article.asp?I
d=1543

I am inclined to wait two weeks before I get excited....we'll see what happens...

tball2day 09-20-2012 10:01 PM

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Alohajrtennis 09-20-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tball2day (Post 6911361)
Ya, I'd say that's a smart move. We are basically a dog and they gave us a single pat on the head, nothing more, yet our tails are wagging away.

I don't see them going, "Ok, never mind." Too much crow to eat that way. And as Tennis5 reminded us, there were a lot of changes (tournament eliminations) in 2011/12. Guess those are irrelevant to them at this point.

Wow, Pmac, please go.


Also, it's not clear to me that it was USTA that released this statement, or if was it the group that met with them. On tennis recruiting site it does not say who the communication was from, and it seems to be written from the perspective of the group who met with them, not the USTA. Might be an attempt by Steve Bellamy, Robert Sasseville and Kevin Kempin to put pressure on USTA.


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