Who will end the year as number 1?
 

Hi, im new on this forum, i've been reading the threads but never post before, this is my first post, and i dedided to make in a new thread.

I want to know who you think will end the year as number 1, just two options: Federer or Djokovic?
If we take look at points to defend, the favourite is Nole, but this is Rogers best part of the season....so its quite a close fight between these two.

Want Fed to get #1, but aware that Fed probably won't replicate last season's greatness, so I figure Djokovic as long as he doesn't surprise with some shock losses should get the #1

I am thinking Federer. Djokovic doesnt typically shine in this part of the year.

Just to make it clear, as I'm not sure...
Is the "Year End #1" determinated by the general ATP ranking, or by the ATP RACE ranking ?
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Murray is already #1 in most sports critics poll.

Race.

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thanks !
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At the end of the year, the race rankings = the normal rankings.

Yeah, this. But the race gives the better idea on who's more likely to finish the year as #1.

want fed probably nole BUT!! In the last 8 years!! whoever has won wimby has gone on to finish the year as #1 so hopefully its fed!!!

Djokovic

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Same thing
 

ATP ranking is derived from points accumulated over the last 52 weeks. ATP RACE ranking is derived from points earned since 01-JAN this year. Obviously on the 31st of December these two ranking systems exactly match (because the 52 weeks before the 31st of December was the 01-JAN).

Never liked the RACE rankings. Basically if the number 200 player in the world won an event in the first week of JAnuary - and the top players didn't play that week then that player would be the number 1 in the RACE.

Wow... I simply didn't think that those 2 rankings match at the end of the year... and well it's just obvious !!
Thank you for that answer :)
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Djokovic. Federer has way more points to defend and it sounds like he's going to skip the Asian swing.

There's about 1000pts separate them (after last year points drop : 3000 for Fed, 560 for Djoko)
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Do you think it will be that hard for Fed to fill the gap, considering how good he is indoor ?
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I would be surprised if he does that. This is his last real chance ever to grab a share of the year end #1 rankings record. Federer has always been motivated by records. He wont let a chance like this pass without giving it his all to get it.

Where's Murray on the list?

Murray is over 3000 points behind Djokovic on the ATP Race (which will be the year end rankings at year end). He has virtually no chance. It would require him not only sweeping the fall indoor season and winning every event he is in (possible I suppose, though unlikely) but Djokovic going something like 2-6 the rest of the year including the WTF. That isnt even to mention the 2000 Race points he is behind Federer.

Djokovic and Federer would both have to suffer a huge injury and not play another tournament the rest of the year, and would still leave Murray with a tough task.

Don't count him out.

Not me unfortunately :(