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TTMR 10-02-2012 05:22 PM

More important event: Madrid or Olympics?
 
The answer is pretty obvious if you ask me:

1000 points > 750 points;

Legacy of great champion winners > Legacy of journeyman winners drawn from sparse fields;

Once-in-a-lifetime surface requiring amazing footwork, timing and adaptability > Historic surface butchered by PC deceleration;

Winner who defeated the very best on road to title > Winner who capitalized on his opponent's surface hardships and another opponent's extreme fatigue.

It's a shame that the Olympics gets all the hype, as if it is the next biggest title after the Slams in 2012. In reality, it is well below the WTF in terms of prestige, and below all Masters (including Monte Carlo) in terms of importance.

Let's also discuss this absurd idea that Murray has had a better year than Federer. Federer, battling age and injury, prevailed against the top young players to clinch his seventeenth major. Murray had his first major handed to him (blown his way) on a silver platter. Federer went out and won Wimbledon (and the #1 ranking). Meanwhile, Murray didn't win the US Open; he simply failed to lose it.

jaggy 10-02-2012 05:24 PM

No Cincy option?

SoBad 10-02-2012 05:26 PM

Are you including a poll? This is a close call. Madrid is very important, but so is an Olympics singles gold. Monte Carlo and the French Open have been very significant over the past few years.

Paullaconte1 10-02-2012 05:29 PM

The Olympics are quite overrated but they are definitely more important than Madrid

Mainad 10-02-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTMR (Post 6932132)
It's a shame that the Olympics gets all the hype, as if it is the next biggest title after the Slams in 2012. In reality, it is well below the WTF in terms of prestige, and below all Masters (including Monte Carlo) in terms of importance.

Do you mean it is over-hyped just because Murray won it? Why do I have the feeling you wouldn't be pedalling this argument if Federer had won it instead?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTMR (Post 6932132)
Federer, battling age and injury, prevailed against the top young players to clinch his seventeenth major.

Lol at the idea of poor old Fed hobbling about Wimbledon's hallowed lawns on his zimmer frame, swatting away all those cheeky young bucks trying to stop him winning his 17th major. In reality, it was a great achievement of course but Federer was in peak condition and playing at almost his peak level. The only things he had to battle were the other players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTMR (Post 6932132)
Murray had his first major handed to him (blown his way) on a silver platter. Federer went out and won Wimbledon (and the #1 ranking). Meanwhile, Murray didn't win the US Open; he simply failed to lose it.

Oh change the record, it's becoming wearily familiar. The only guy who got handed a silver platter at the US Open was Novak Djokovic for coming runner-up in the final! A bit of wind, lol? Somehow all the other players couldn't cope with it except for Murray? Do me a favour!! He battled through a much harder draw than Federer ever had to contend with and didn't buckle at the first tough opponent that came his way like Fed did. He went out and won that tournament every bit as fair and square as Federer went out and won Wimbledon. Only a ludicrously biased ******* like yourself would ever try to argue otherwise!

And yes, I believe the Olympics was a more important event than Madrid (although the ATP doesn't award it as many ranking points). Whatsmore, I'll wager Roger Federer thought it was a more important event as well!

Hood_Man 10-02-2012 05:50 PM

Olympics. It's just that special.

SoBad 10-02-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hood_Man (Post 6932180)
Olympics. It's just that special.

I agree - no GOAT candidacy without the singles gold.

Sim 10-02-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hood_Man (Post 6932180)
Olympics. It's just that special.

Agree. Besides, Olympics for tennis is getting more important each time. I'm sure it will be better recognized in the future.

kishnabe 10-02-2012 06:01 PM

Prestige:

Slams>Olympics>WTF>MS1000

Points
Slams>WTF>MS1000>Olympics

Goathood

Olympics means Jacksquat since it not a fair representation of the previous eras.

Slams existed since the exsistance of amateur tennis....the solely count. No Masters Series, No YEC/Masters/WTF, No GS CUP.

SoBad 10-02-2012 06:06 PM

1. Safin
2. Nadal-Kafelnikov
3. Sampras

Zarfot Z 10-02-2012 06:47 PM

Madrid + Monte Carlo < Olympics

You are heavily delusional OP.

dangalak 10-02-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTMR (Post 6932132)
The answer is pretty obvious if you ask me:

1000 points > 750 points;

Legacy of great champion winners > Legacy of journeyman winners drawn from sparse fields;

Once-in-a-lifetime surface requiring amazing footwork, timing and adaptability > Historic surface butchered by PC deceleration;

Winner who defeated the very best on road to title > Winner who capitalized on his opponent's surface hardships and another opponent's extreme fatigue.

It's a shame that the Olympics gets all the hype, as if it is the next biggest title after the Slams in 2012. In reality, it is well below the WTF in terms of prestige, and below all Masters (including Monte Carlo) in terms of importance.

Let's also discuss this absurd idea that Murray has had a better year than Federer. Federer, battling age and injury, prevailed against the top young players to clinch his seventeenth major. Murray had his first major handed to him (blown his way) on a silver platter. Federer went out and won Wimbledon (and the #1 ranking). Meanwhile, Murray didn't win the US Open; he simply failed to lose it.

What a brilliant troll. :oops:

dangalak 10-02-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mainad (Post 6932169)
Do you mean it is over-hyped just because Murray won it? Why do I have the feeling you wouldn't be pedalling this argument if Federer had won it instead?



Lol at the idea of poor old Fed hobbling about Wimbledon's hallowed lawns on his zimmer frame, swatting away all those cheeky young bucks trying to stop him winning his 17th major. In reality, it was a great achievement of course but Federer was in peak condition and playing at almost his peak level. The only things he had to battle were the other players.



Oh change the record, it's becoming wearily familiar. The only guy who got handed a silver platter at the US Open was Novak Djokovic for coming runner-up in the final! A bit of wind, lol? Somehow all the other players couldn't cope with it except for Murray? Do me a favour!! He battled through a much harder draw than Federer ever had to contend with and didn't buckle at the first tough opponent that came his way like Fed did. He went out and won that tournament every bit as fair and square as Federer went out and won Wimbledon. Only a ludicrously biased ******* like yourself would ever try to argue otherwise!

And yes, I believe the Olympics was a more important event than Madrid (although the ATP doesn't award it as many ranking points). Whatsmore, I'll wager Roger Federer thought it was a more important event as well!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now I understand you TTMR my friend.

MichaelNadal 10-02-2012 08:23 PM

Olympics are bigger than Madrid. Ask any player they will tell you that. Players shed tears like it's a funeral at the Olympics.

Prisoner of Birth 10-02-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarfot Z (Post 6932276)
Madrid + Monte Carlo < Olympics

You are heavily delusional OP.

No need to denigrate the Masters, now.

DragonBlaze 10-02-2012 08:39 PM

TTMR, no one ever gets your sarcasm. You should just stop now :lol:

dangalak 10-02-2012 08:41 PM

Are you guys actually unaware of....nevermind.

RF20Lennon 10-02-2012 08:48 PM

LOL why just madrid???

dangalak 10-02-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon (Post 6932436)
LOL why just madrid???

Federer won it. ;)

JTJet 10-02-2012 09:11 PM

My opinion is that olympics have value to a player, not just by points standards. The best players are now competing in the olympics, showing it has value to them. Having slams is great, but having a medal with slams just adds a bit to it.


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