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dangalak 10-05-2012 09:07 PM

Better backhand currently: Federer or Nadal?
 
The beauty of this thread is that people will not spam misleading stats from the ATP website. :lol:

MichaelNadal 10-05-2012 09:20 PM

Federer has always had a better backhand, though Nadal's backhand is a very underrated shot. Next question?

dangalak 10-05-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelNadal (Post 6938420)
Federer has always had a better backhand, though Nadal's backhand is a very underrated shot. Next question?

In 2008-2009 Nadal's was vastly better and arguably was until 2011. :)

RF20Lennon 10-05-2012 09:24 PM

Federer has more variety and a better backhand in general. But its always exploited by Rafas forehand. Nadal has a stable backhand because of the two hands and no one can come close to generating his topspin so we can never know how he would respond

dangalak 10-05-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RF20Lennon (Post 6938427)
Federer has more variety and a better backhand in general. But its always exploited by Rafas forehand. Nadal has a stable backhand because of the two hands and no one can come close to generating his topspin so we can never know how he would respond

Um, Djokovic picked on his backhand all day. :lol:

RF20Lennon 10-05-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dangalak (Post 6938430)
Um, Djokovic picked on his backhand all day. :lol:

True but he picked on feds as well what im saying is we would never know how he would behave to his own topspin

tennisbuck 10-05-2012 09:34 PM

fed can certainly attack more off of his, but nadals is more consistent. defidently worth discussing

Cup8489 10-05-2012 09:38 PM

Fed.

@ OP... they were only misleading to you because you didn't agree with them.

Kinda like how you claimed that your opinion was factual.

dangalak 10-05-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RF20Lennon (Post 6938434)
True but he picked on feds as well what im saying is we would never know how he would behave to his own topspin

Erm, what? Djokovic picking on Federer's BH? :lol:

If anything, it's the reverse. Pay attention to how Federer's BH always looks GOATlike when he plays Djokovic and how Djokovic's BH looks much worse than it usually is because of Federer's variety. The only match where Federer's BH struggles with Djokovic's was the FO this year and that was with Djokovic's BH hitting great angles and Federer not slicing enough.

Murray's BH causes Federer a lot more problems.

dangalak 10-05-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cup8489 (Post 6938456)
Fed.

@ OP... they were only misleading to you because you didn't agree with them.

Kinda like how you claimed that your opinion was factual.

Oh shut your mouth for God's sake. :?

Only a moron would look at statistics and say that, for instance, Nadal had a better serve than Querrey in 2010. They only show who won the most points/games, they don't show what led to that. Nadal's or Federer's percentages are mostly because of their all around game, not because of their serves/returns.

NadalAgassi 10-05-2012 09:41 PM

It is funny how Federer fans think Federer has the better forehand, better backhand, as good or better movement, yet he loses most of the baseline rallies in 85% of their matches (basically every match that wasnt indoors).

RF20Lennon 10-05-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dangalak (Post 6938463)
Erm, what? Djokovic picking on Federer's BH? :lol:

If anything, it's the reverse. Pay attention to how Federer's BH always looks GOATlike when he plays Djokovic and how Djokovic's BH looks much worse than it usually is because of Federer's variety. The only match where Federer's BH struggles with Djokovic's was the FO this year and that was with Djokovic's BH hitting great angles and Federer not slicing enough.

Murray's BH causes Federer a lot more problems.

I agree but also look at their rome encounter this year

Hood_Man 10-05-2012 09:43 PM

Excuse me, Dangalak? Inside voices please.

Thanks :)

dangalak 10-05-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NadalAgassi (Post 6938466)
It is funny how Federer fans think Federer has the better forehand, better backhand, as good or better movement, yet he loses most of the baseline rallies in 85% of their matches (basically every match that wasnt indoors).

Matchups? His BH isn't very good against Nadal. Federer's serve might be vastly superior to Nadal, but against Federer, Nadal's serve looks much better than it is since Federer struggles against it etc.

Also, nobody claimed that Federer currently moves anywhere near well as Nadal. :lol:

Nadal's BH has declined. back in the day it was a much better shot.

You also ignore things that cannot be put into usual categories of "FH, BH, movement". Passing shots, defense, consistency.

I mean it's like you're pretending to be stupid just to have a go at me. :?

dangalak 10-05-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RF20Lennon (Post 6938468)
I agree but also look at their rome encounter this year

There, Federer also sliced very rarely.

Djokovic typically hurts Federer with his FH, not his BH.

kaku 10-05-2012 09:57 PM

Old Man Fed, just watch some of his Wimbledon matches

Prisoner of Birth 10-05-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangalak (Post 6938463)
Erm, what? Djokovic picking on Federer's BH? :lol:

If anything, it's the reverse. Pay attention to how Federer's BH always looks GOATlike when he plays Djokovic and how Djokovic's BH looks much worse than it usually is because of Federer's variety. The only match where Federer's BH struggles with Djokovic's was the FO this year and that was with Djokovic's BH hitting great angles and Federer not slicing enough.

Murray's BH causes Federer a lot more problems.

Yeah, Djokovic has trouble dealing with Federer's backhand backspin.

Zarfot Z 10-06-2012 03:24 AM

What?

Nadal, by far. Much more consistent, less prone to shanking and a more solid shot overall.

Federer has the worst backhand in the top 4. It's obviously still a hellavashot, but there is no way it is better than Nadal's.

dangalak 10-06-2012 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarfot Z (Post 6938783)
What?

Nadal, by far. Much more consistent, less prone to shanking and a more solid shot overall.

Federer has the worst backhand in the top 4. It's obviously still a hellavashot, but there is no way it is better than Nadal's.

Who cares if it's a "solid shot" if he can't hit it down the line to save his life. :lol:

And that's just if you compare their drive backhands. Federer's slice is lightyears ahead of Nadal's.

Not to mention, this isn't 2008. Federer is no longer leaking errors left and right from his BH.

faranell 10-06-2012 04:12 AM

Ok. im kinda new here so i dunno but how come 90% of the threads are polls like "who has better fh?" "who has better bh" "better shoes" "nicest hair"..
whats the point?


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