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adil1972 10-06-2012 09:13 AM

no. 1 ranking
 
does anybody tell me when federer will fall to no. 2 at the earliest

looks like he will be first person to be no. 1 for more than 300 weeks, either male or female

thanks in advance

tacou 10-06-2012 09:27 AM

he is #2 right now.

Andres 10-06-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tacou (Post 6939248)
he is #2 right now.

Nope, he's still #1 in the entry ranking. He's #2 in the race. He's still the top seed in any tourney he joins. He's 1,400 points ahead of Nole.

The Bawss 10-06-2012 09:31 AM

Computer says no?

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

RogerFan1991 10-06-2012 09:35 AM

If federer reches QF at shanghai, no matter if djokovic wins, he will secure 300 weeks at no.1, staying in that position until october 22nd.

RF20Lennon 10-06-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerFan1991 (Post 6939271)
If federer reches QF at shanghai, no matter if djokovic wins, he will secure 300 weeks at no.1, staying in that position until october 22nd.

I thought he just had to win the first match?

RogerFan1991 10-06-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RF20Lennon (Post 6939317)
I thought he just had to win the first match?

Nope, supposing djokovic wins the final vs tsonga tomorrow, his ranking will be 10970 pts, then if he wins Shanghai he will have 11970.....so federer needs at least 165 pts from shanghai to equal that, so he needs to reach QF(180 pts), leaving him with 11985 pts.

RF20Lennon 10-06-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerFan1991 (Post 6939323)
Nope, supposing djokovic wins the final vs tsonga tomorrow, his ranking will be 10970 pts, then if he wins Shanghai he will have 11970.....so federer needs at least 165 pts from shanghai to equal that, so he needs to reach QF(180 pts), leaving him with 11985 pts.

Oh ok! thanks! didnt know that

Evan77 10-06-2012 10:15 AM

off topic but wondering if Djokovic will play in Basel this year

tennis_pro 10-06-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerFan1991 (Post 6939323)
Nope, supposing djokovic wins the final vs tsonga tomorrow, his ranking will be 10970 pts, then if he wins Shanghai he will have 11970.....so federer needs at least 165 pts from shanghai to equal that, so he needs to reach QF(180 pts), leaving him with 11985 pts.

Exactly. So to reach 300 weeks at no 1 Federer needs to beat

- a qualifier or Zhang Ze (a young Chinese player without a lot of experience on the ATP tour)
- Wawrinka (most likely)

That of course assuming Djokovic wins Beijing and then Shanghai which is not an easy task, even for him.

merlinpinpin 10-06-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tennis_pro (Post 6939341)
Exactly. So to reach 300 weeks at no 1 Federer needs to beat

- a qualifier or Zhang Ze (a young Chinese player without a lot of experience on the ATP tour)
- Wawrinka (most likely)

That of course assuming Djokovic wins Beijing and then Shanghai which is not an easy task, even for him.

Nope. RogerFan didn't take the 0-pointer from Tokyo last year into account. It will drop next Monday, and Federer will gain his 90 points from Doha, for a 11,895 point total. So, a single win in Shanghai will be enough. Not that he plans to stop there, I guess... ;)

RogerFan1991 10-06-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan77 (Post 6939335)
off topic but wondering if Djokovic will play in Basel this year

Djokovic is not in the players entry list of the tournment, and its not in his calendar, i think he replaced basel for beijing, unles he losses early at shanghai, he will not play basel i guess.

RogerFan1991 10-06-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinpinpin (Post 6939358)
Nope. RogerFan didn't take the 0-pointer from Tokyo last year into account. It will drop next Monday, and Federer will gain his 90 points from Doha, for a 11,895 point total. So, a single win in Shanghai will be enough. Not that he plans to stop there, I guess... ;)

Ohh, hope you're right....then i can say Federer has reached 300 weeks as number 1!!!...he's not gonna lose to Zhang or a qualy.

Evan77 10-06-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerFan1991 (Post 6939361)
Djokovic is not in the players entry list of the tournment, and its not in his calendar, i think he replaced basel for beijing, unles he losses early at shanghai, he will not play basel i guess.

thanks RogerFan.

tennis_pro 10-06-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinpinpin (Post 6939358)
Nope. RogerFan didn't take the 0-pointer from Tokyo last year into account. It will drop next Monday, and Federer will gain his 90 points from Doha, for a 11,895 point total. So, a single win in Shanghai will be enough. Not that he plans to stop there, I guess... ;)

I never understood the 0-pointers for missing tournaments (or never bothered to check that correctly), I guess you're right. It means that only an earthquake can stop Federer from getting to 300 weeks at no 1.

tennis_pro 10-06-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerFan1991 (Post 6939361)
Djokovic is not in the players entry list of the tournment, and its not in his calendar, i think he replaced basel for beijing, unles he losses early at shanghai, he will not play basel i guess.

That could be a very smart move from him. That way he only gets to play 2 tournaments back-to-back (Beijing-Shanghai and then Paris-WTF), while Fed has to play Shanghai and then 3 tournaments back-to-back-to-back, unfortunately it just wouldn't be right for Fed to skip Basel and play Beijing instead, even though theoretically it would benefit him more in the long run.

jokinla 10-06-2012 12:10 PM

Fed's draw looks pretty cake till the semis next week, unless he got overly spooked by the death threat, he should be through to the semis.

Evan77 10-06-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jokinla (Post 6939510)
Fed's draw looks pretty cake till the semis next week, unless he got overly spooked by the death threat, he should be through to the semis.

yup, Novak got it even easier than Fed. cakewalk to the final. Berdych might be the only guy to test him.

underground 10-06-2012 12:49 PM

I don't think Doha points will be counted. Since it hasn't been specified that the Olympics counts as a 500 tournament quota. We will have to wait until Monday and see, of course I hope he'll get 300 weeks. :)

ktid 10-06-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adil1972 (Post 6939218)
does anybody tell me when federer will fall to no. 2 at the earliest

looks like he will be first person to be no. 1 for more than 300 weeks, either male or female

thanks in advance

Steffi Graff she not no.1 for 377 weeks? or was it 337? cannae mind but one of them


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