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3fees 10-09-2012 10:09 AM

Cudos to Nicolas Almagro
 
He's number 3 in Aces on the ATP Tour this year.



:)

Evan77 10-09-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 3fees (Post 6944286)
He's number 3 in Aces on the ATP Tour this year.



:)

hm interesting, I wouldn't expect him to be even top 5/10 in that category.

The Bawss 10-09-2012 10:13 AM

Not really surprising. The man can hit a ball.

Fee 10-09-2012 10:17 AM

Kudos, with a K, like the snack bar. Do they still make those?

Gonzo_style 10-09-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bawss (Post 6944292)
Not really surprising. The man can hit a ball.

Yes i remember in 2008 i think Almagro served 24 ace in 2 sets on clay against some Serbian players, probably Tipsarevic...

kishnabe 10-09-2012 10:22 AM

Funny that most of his matches are on clay...and he got that many aces.

stringertom 10-09-2012 10:34 AM

He brings it plus he has a relatively low ball toss (think Tanner or Curren) that's harder to react to. That and seventy-one matches will get you a lot of aces.

Romismak 10-09-2012 10:58 AM

Nothing unexpected here.

He wasnīt 3rd, 3rd was Querrey before Shanghai -590 aces, Almagro had 577, Almagro hit 18vs Haas, Querrey 11 and played sooner, so Almagro was 4th. but how i said nothing new

Almagro has great 1st serve-low toss, quick motion, pretty fast about 210-215kph are his fastest serves normally, really good serve, but he is not even top 10 ace-per match or better would be ace-per 1st serve in play ratio.

Almagro played a lot on clay, so he has a lot of matches this season that makes him high on the list, just like Tipsarevic is just behind him on 5th place-they just play to many matches, but now he is out of Shanghai and donīt think he will do better indoors than some other guys so i expect some guys behind him to hit more aces indoors and surpass him - behind him are guys like Roger, Tipsy, Tsonga, Berdych,Anderson... so he wonīt be top 5 at the end of the year.

dominikk1985 10-09-2012 11:05 AM

you don't expect that from a clay courter:D

I wonder why this guy is not better. he has nice strokes and is a very big hitter. Of course he cannot compete with the big 4 but compared to ferrer I think he has more weapons (especially that huge BH).

So why is ferrer so much better than him?

ericsson 10-09-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 6944413)
you don't expect that from a clay courter:D

I wonder why this guy is not better. he has nice strokes and is a very big hitter. Of course he cannot compete with the big 4 but compared to ferrer I think he has more weapons (especially that huge BH).

So why is ferrer so much better than him?

Indeed, he hits very big on all sides. I think he dont have the mental Ferrer does have, Ferrer never gives up, keeps running and believe in himself...

I liked the match VS Dimitrov at the AO this year, nice shots overall from both players!

jerriy 10-10-2012 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Romismak (Post 6944397)
Almagro played a lot on clay...

But not a lot more than ace aces like Federer & Berdych

Code:

1.        Milos Raonic                921        60
2.        John Isner                917        61
3.        Sam Querrey                590        53
4.        Nicolas Almagro        577        71
5.        Janko Tipsarevic        575        73
6.        Roger Federer                559        69
7.        Jo-Wilfried Tsonga        547        66
8.        Tomas Berdych                545        68


djokovic2008 10-10-2012 04:31 AM

Almagro has a very under rated serve, he holds a hell of a lot on clay in particular but does not have the kind of fight needed to be in the top five.

Romismak 10-10-2012 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jerriy (Post 6945488)
But not a lot more than ace aces like Federer & Berdych

Code:

1.        Milos Raonic                921        60
2.        John Isner                917        61
3.        Sam Querrey                590        53
4.        Nicolas Almagro        577        71
5.        Janko Tipsarevic        575        73
6.        Roger Federer                559        69
7.        Jo-Wilfried Tsonga        547        66
8.        Tomas Berdych                545        68


Donīt understand what are you saying.

Yes he played a lot on clay - my point was he played alredy a lot of matches - among guys with most matches at this point so logically he is in top 5 aces on th etour, but how i said now with indoor season and he is out of Shanghai already, some guys will surpass him and he will end probably around 8th place in aces for 2012.

jerriy 10-10-2012 12:45 PM

^ Don't be facetious. The point is that Almagro is playing more or less equal amount of total matches so far this year (which is what's relevant here) and that in doing so he's achieving similar serve stats as big guns and serve-bots who're much more reliant on aces and the like to bring home the bacon





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ae695 10-11-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 6944413)
you don't expect that from a clay courter:D

I wonder why this guy is not better. he has nice strokes and is a very big hitter. Of course he cannot compete with the big 4 but compared to ferrer I think he has more weapons (especially that huge BH).

So why is ferrer so much better than him?

I think the difference is mainly in their heads...

tennisbuck 10-11-2012 10:08 PM

Yah my favorite player! finally a thread about him

Ash_Smith 10-11-2012 11:44 PM

Almagro is a class act all around, good serve, great backhand, forehand is a weapon, but can break down under pressure. If he could control his temper more readily when under pressure i'm sure his results would be even better!

cheers

augustobt 10-12-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stringertom (Post 6944342)
He brings it plus he has a relatively low ball toss (think Tanner or Curren) that's harder to react to. That and seventy-one matches will get you a lot of aces.

Yes, I really note that low toss.

The whole point of almagro's serve motion is the use of the feet. He tends to commit a lot of foot faults because of that.

Avles 10-12-2012 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smith (Post 6949721)
Almagro is a class act all around, good serve, great backhand, forehand is a weapon, but can break down under pressure. If he could control his temper more readily when under pressure i'm sure his results would be even better!

cheers

Almagro gets testy even in practice it seems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T3xK6pvucY

I really like that video... it's fun to see a pro rallying at high intensity.

Wilander Fan 10-12-2012 08:17 AM

Why isnt Almagro ranked higher? I am going to say fitness. Fitness is probably the most important factor separating the top players.


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