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McEnroeisanartist 10-11-2012 01:34 PM

More Impressive Achievement of Sampras or Federer
 
What do you think is the more impressive achievement:

Sampras who was year end #1 for 6 consecutive years and was in the top 2 year end for 6 total years (tied for 4th best all time).

Or Federer who was year end #1 for 4 consecutive years and will be in the top 2 year for 9 total years (record).

joeri888 10-11-2012 02:48 PM

Federers is objectively better, his achieveements eclipse sampras, which also shows This stat. However, in This case sampras record looks nicer, esthaetically

forzamilan90 10-11-2012 02:51 PM

of those I'd say Sampras...if you had asked Sampras' consecutive years vs Fed's total time at #1, I would have gone with Fed

フェデラー 10-11-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by forzamilan90 (Post 6948876)
of those I'd say Sampras...if you had asked Sampras' consecutive years vs Fed's total time at #1, I would have gone with Fed

What about consecutive years vs. consecutive weeks?

Prisoner of Birth 10-11-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by フェデラー (Post 6948888)
What about consecutive years vs. consecutive weeks?

Weeks at #1 > Year-End #1s > Consecutive weeks at #1 = Consecutive Year-End #1s IMO.

forzamilan90 10-11-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by フェデラー (Post 6948888)
What about consecutive years vs. consecutive weeks?

It's close but I'd give it to Sampras. Sampras had those consecutive year end #1, but looking at his credentials the longest he was consecutively was 102 weeks.....on the other hand Fed was consecutively number 1 for a whopping 237 weeks. Still though 6 year end number ones is flat out pimp so I give Sampras props on that.

Fed's 300 total weeks trumps all of those records in my opinion though. It's amazing that if he ends up number 1 again this year he ties Pete's 6 year end number 1s while also extending the total weeks record even more)

timnz 10-11-2012 04:08 PM

How important is 'Consecutive'?
 
Consecutive looks nice but I am not sure there is huge actual value in it being consecutive. For instance I actually see Bill Tilden getting a 7th year as year end number one in 1931 after a 6 year wait as being highly impressive.

If Federer was to get the year end number 1 this year (a difficult but not inconceivable task) then would his 6 year end number ones be actually less that Sampras' 6 consecutive year ends. Sure consecutive is cool but it is also cool to re-claim number 1. In Federer's case it would be after a 3 year break.

DolgoSantoro 10-11-2012 04:14 PM

I give it to Sampras's year end number ones but I find Federer's weeks at #1 even more impressive

90's Clay 10-11-2012 04:35 PM

People forget Pete could have ended 1999 and 2000 as Number 1 as well. He got hurt before the USO then won the YEC but Andre ended #1.. And I think he could have ended 2000 as Number 1 as well but he got married to that Sonya Blade chick.

BorisBeckerFan 10-11-2012 04:49 PM

Ultimately Fed was more driven than Sampras and that's why he is still going at right now even though he's old, has a family and so many accomplishments. I know Sampras has said he has no regrets but I wonder if in the back of his mind somewhere it eats him up that he didn't go for it a little more during the latter parts of his career. He suffered some unlikely losses and called it quits when it was obvious he still had a ton of game left. Not saying he would have won more slams but who knows? The guy was awesome. Either way he lost the fire at that stage of his career and Fed has not.

RF20Lennon 10-11-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 90's Clay (Post 6949073)
People forget Pete could have ended 1999 and 2000 as Number 1 as well. He got hurt before the USO then won the YEC but Andre ended #1.. And I think he could have ended 2000 as Number 1 as well but he got married to that Sonya Blade chick.

So Marriage is an excuse??? FYI HUGE!! difference between could have and what happened!!

DolgoSantoro 10-11-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 90's Clay (Post 6949073)
People forget Pete could have ended 1999 and 2000 as Number 1 as well. He got hurt before the USO then won the YEC but Andre ended #1.. And I think he could have ended 2000 as Number 1 as well but he got married to that Sonya Blade chick.

If marriage is an excuse, does Fed get points for his wife and twin children?

RogerFan1991 10-11-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 90's Clay (Post 6949073)
People forget Pete could have ended 1999 and 2000 as Number 1 as well. He got hurt before the USO then won the YEC but Andre ended #1.. And I think he could have ended 2000 as Number 1 as well but he got married to that Sonya Blade chick.

People forget federer could have ended 2003 as number 1, although he won the year end championship, he was second to roddick by 160 pts.

tudwell 10-11-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerFan1991 (Post 6949142)
People forget federer could have ended 2003 as number 1, although he won the year end championship, he was second to roddick by 160 pts.

Nalbandian ruined Federer's chances of finishing 2003 at no. 1. He beat him in the R16 at the Australian Open and the U.S. Open, with a win at Cincinnati to boot. If Federer had gone deeper in any of those tournaments, he very well may have finished no. 1.

smoledman 10-11-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tudwell (Post 6949212)
Nalbandian ruined Federer's chances of finishing 2003 at no. 1. He beat him in the R16 at the Australian Open and the U.S. Open, with a win at Cincinnati to boot. If Federer had gone deeper in any of those tournaments, he very well may have finished no. 1.

Damn fit Dave!

kishnabe 10-11-2012 06:39 PM

Sampras

Since ending Number 1 is all that matters.

Who cares about being Number 2.


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