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slowfox 10-12-2012 07:26 PM

Are your courts slower?
 
Have public courts been slowed down too? I assume most are still fast as f**k. I don't think my local hard courts have been resurfaced in decades... :)

LeeD 10-12-2012 07:30 PM

Very fast with cracks all around, RoseGarden, Berkeley.
Right amidst mostly 1 million dollars homes with some close to 4 one block away.
SE corner's of all 3 courts have dropped (sunken 12 - 24") since they were paved 5 years ago.

corbind 10-12-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 6951448)
Very fast with cracks all around, RoseGarden, Berkeley.
Right amidst mostly 1 million dollars homes with some close to 4 one block away.
SE corner's of all 3 courts have dropped (sunken 12 - 24") since they were paved 5 years ago.

Holy smokes, what the heck happened to the court second from the left? Half of it is GONE!

https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8...=A&gl=US&hl=en

SystemicAnomaly 10-13-2012 12:05 AM

A lot of the resurfaced courts in these parts are blue-er than they were before. Many of the newly minted courts have switched from green to "US Open" blue (with green for the out-of-bounds area). Contrast is much better but, sadly, the windscreens are still green (or dark in color).

Some courts that have been redone are slower, some are faster, some are about the same. It seems that the quality of the resurface on some is inferior to what it was previously -- some courts develop cracks or slight depressions within 2-3 months of resurfacing. A few have noticeable dead spots.

tennis_balla 10-13-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by corbind (Post 6951622)
Holy smokes, what the heck happened to the court second from the left? Half of it is GONE!

https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8...=A&gl=US&hl=en

There's a wall there you can hit against, that's why its only half a court ;)

floridatennisdude 10-13-2012 08:11 AM

Public courts that aren't resurfaced often enough just become fast by wear. Sunlight does plenty damage in Florida to expedite the speed of the courts. The surface paint uses nowadays is grittier and thicker than it was a couple decades ago. The result is that courts with fresher surfaces is slower.

However, clay courts that I play on in the humid southeast tend to have a wetting effect of the ball. So, I am not sure whether the clay is slower, but the heavier balls make clay tennis down here seem slower than I remember as a kid. I could be way off on this opinion, but its what I feel about clay.

NadalDramaQueen 10-13-2012 09:30 AM

There are two sets of courts near me. The courts that are the closest are lightning fast and the other courts are pretty slow and high bouncing (fairly recent resurface). I prefer the slower ones. :)

tball 10-13-2012 10:33 AM

I typically play on 4 different courts (1 indoors, 3 outside). Sure, there are differences between the surfaces. But none of those differences are as drammatic as the difference in temperature. At noon, it is ~75 F, and things are quite bouncy and fast (and the surface is the least of those contributing factors). In the evening, the temperature is ~50 F, and everything is so different!

I also play well into the winter outside, and strangely enough, those courts with the "best" surface (nice thick, rubberized layer), which provide the softest/slowest bounce during the summer, in the winter months definitely become the "bounciest". The public courts with the poorest of surfaces, which are the fastest int he summer, become the slowest in the winter.

dman72 10-13-2012 01:06 PM

Most public courts are very fast around here, as they tend to be asphalt with little grit in the first place that has been weathered badly.

A few resurfaced courts at local high schools have added some grit and thus slowed down. I like the way the ball plays on a grittier court, but it's harder on your joints, so I'm starting to no like it.

corbind 10-14-2012 08:34 AM

Twenty years ago I don't remember playing at many, well any, courts that had significant grit. They were all fairly slick and had very, very small grains of sand mixed in the top paint. That or the courts were just old. As I think back I did not care much about court surfaces or other uncontrollable variables.

In the last 2 years, I've played at over 20 different outdoor hard court locations. All the resurfaced ones are just beautiful. But when I bend down and run my hand over the court surface it's really sandy and rough like sand paper. Maybe more sand, bigger sand brings less liability for the court owners? Less slippage in light rain?

As for the courts that had not been resurfaced recently most still seemed pretty slow. Again lots of big sand particles in the paint. Somehow I get excited whenever I see a court that has fairly smooth paint with little sand. Balls move faster, when running I don't stop as abruptly, and balls fluff up less.

Courts with more sand (or larger particles) seem to bring advantage to spinny strokes. Kick serves REALLY kick, topspin loopers really dig into the rough surface and accentuate the spin by popping the ball high.


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