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drakulie 10-16-2012 08:04 PM

Wilson Hits Homerun with Wilson Steam 99S (mini review)
 
Was invited to the Wilson SET (Spin Effect Tour) event yesterday, where the highlight of the upcoming Wilson Products for the 2013 Year was surely the Wilson Steam 99S.

Specs:
99 square inches
27 inches length
strung weight: 11.3
balance: 2 pts HL
string pattern: 16:15
cross section: 24 mm

All attendees were able to hit with all the 2013 Wilson frames, but what made this event special, was being able to demo the 99s. Not only that, but be able to actually find out if it does in fact provide more spin.

Wilson set up one court with a computerized tracking system to determine the amount of spin, pace and height hit on ground strokes.

Racquets provided for this play test were the Babolat Aero Pro Drive, Head Speed MP 315, and Steam 99S. All were strung with Luxilon 4G. And balls were fed with a ball machine.

Here are my test results:

Most pace (average):
1. Head Speed MP
2. Steam 99S
3. Aero Pro Drive

Highest Net clearance (average):
1. Steam 99S
2. Aero Pro Drive
3. Head Speed

Most Spin (average):
1. Steam 99S
2. Head Speed
3. Aero Pro Drive


My average spin on the Steam was over 2800 RPMs, reaching up to 3,300 RPMs on a few shots.

Average on the Head was 2,500 with highest being 2800 RPMs on a few shots.

Average on the Aero was 2,300 RPMs with a few shots at 2600 Rpms.

A few more notes:

Hit a few fhs with the steam a little over 80 mph (which were the fastest I recorded), and average height over the net was 63 inches.

The frame was incredibly comfortable to swing and hit with. Has a great cushiony, but very responsive feel at impact. Easy to generate power, tons of spin, and surprisingly, easy to control the shots. Great to volley with and serves were simply amazing. The heaviness of spin shots was just sick. This frame is going to be very attractive to a very wide range of players, from recreational, to mid level players, to advanced. As far as I could tell, frame really has no weaknesses.

I definitely believe this racquet is going to absolutely dominate public courts everywhere. This frame truly is a SPIN monster. Wilson absolutely knocked it out of the park with this one and Hit a Home Run.

One more note:
Every tester I saw, hit with much more spin with the 99S than with any other frame. This was backed up by the data of every playtester.

Sorry for the short review, I'll try and answer as many questions as I can.


Video of ex UM player hitting 115 mph serve with a Steam 105s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AL7IURVMpI

Photos can be found here (thanks to ThePowerof choice):
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=432
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=433

EDITED TO INCLUDE OTHER PLAYTESTER REVIEWS FOUND HERE:

DMCB101:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=144

suresh:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=231

Hankenstein:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=285
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=290

TennisTodd:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=624

Power Player:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=667

couch:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=811

MongolMike:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=872

dgdawg:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=903

TW Tennis Warehouse Review:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/REVI...99SReview.html

Rabbit:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...postcount=1296

klementine79 10-16-2012 08:09 PM

Thanks for the review Drak. It's on like donkey kong!

Is that 24mm constant? or tapered?

drakulie 10-16-2012 08:10 PM

^^Good question, but unfortunately, don't know. Sorry. But did I say it creates an insane amount of spin? :)

klementine79 10-16-2012 08:13 PM

Yeah, I think you mentioned it somewhere. ;)

Sounds like a very interesting frame. Looks like wilson was trying to promote the 4g string as well. Nice string by the way.

canuckfan 10-16-2012 08:23 PM

Were you still able to flatten the ball out when you wanted to? How was the maneuverability -- what would you estimate the swingweight to be? Thanks for the review!

JGads 10-16-2012 08:27 PM

Wow, great stuff. And coming from Drak, that's a nice endorsement.

Drak, did you or others playtest the new Blades at all? Was the Steam still most people's fancy? First Steam was just awful, I thought, nice to see they went somewhere very different with this one to create a cool new alternative for people.

Power Player 10-16-2012 08:34 PM

Very interesting stuff. For me too much spin has been detrimental in the past. Since i think you use s prestige a lot, how does the control compare or did you get enough time to really get a feel for that?

drakulie 10-16-2012 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckfan (Post 6960098)
Were you still able to flatten the ball out for more court penetration when you wanted to? P.S. Do you have a one-handed backhand? I ask because I also prefer a onehander. Thanks for the review!

Yes, I was able to flatten out shots with the frame when I was playtesting it. However, for the on-court test, I did not concentrate on hitting flat shots. Also, YES, I use a one-hander.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JGads (Post 6960108)
Wow, great stuff. And coming from Drak, that's a nice endorsement.

Drak, did you or others playtest the new Blades at all? Was the Steam still most people's fancy? First Steam was just awful, I thought, nice to see they went somewhere very different with this one to create a cool new alternative for people.

Yeah, hit with all the new blades as well. Really enjoyed hitting with the 16X19 blade. Much livelier than the 18X20. Paint job on all 4 new blades are really nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Power Player (Post 6960119)
Very interesting stuff. For me too much spin has been detrimental in the past. Since i think you use s prestige a lot, how does the control compare or did you get enough time to really get a feel for that?

Once I got dialed into the balance and swing weight of the frame, control wasn't too much of an issue. One of the great things about the frame was shots that typically go long were falling in. :)

Power Player 10-16-2012 08:50 PM

Oh man you hit with the new blades too...what a day..lol. I love the control and power of the 98 that is out now. 16x19 being more lively sounds like possibly too much boom for me. Did it feel like the new ones flex out about the same?

drakulie 10-16-2012 09:02 PM

They felt a tad bit livelier, and flex nicely. I would say same as the prior.

Ross K 10-16-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakulie (Post 6960059)
Was invited to the Wilson SET (Spin Effect Tour) event yesterday, where the highlight of the upcoming Wilson Products for the 2013 Year was surely the Wilson Steam 99S.

Specs:
99 square inches
27 inches length
strung weight: 11.3
balance: 2 pts HL
string pattern: 16:15
cross section: 24 mm

All attendees were able to hit with all the 2013 Wilson frames, but what made this event special, was being able to demo the 99s. Not only that, but be able to actually find out if it does in fact provide more spin.

Wilson set up one court with a computerized tracking system to determine the amount of spin, pace and height hit on ground strokes.

Racquets provided for this play test were the Babolat Aero Pro Drive, Head Speed MP 315, and Steam 99S. All were strung with Luxilon 4G. And balls were fed with a ball machine.

Here are my test results:

Most pace (average):
1. Head Speed MP
2. Steam 99S
3. Aero Pro Drive

Highest Net clearance (average):
1. Steam 99S
2. Aero Pro Drive
3. Head Speed

Most Spin (average):
1. Steam 99S
2. Head Speed
3. Aero Pro Drive


My average spin on the Steam was over 2800 RPMs, reaching up to 3,300 RPMs on a few shots.

Average on the Head was 2,500 with highest being 2800 RPMs on a few shots.

Average on the Aero was 2,300 RPMs with a few shots at 2600 Rpms.

A few more notes:

Hit a few fhs with the steam a little over 80 mph (which were the fastest I recorded), and average height over the net was 63 inches.

The frame was incredibly comfortable to swing and hit with. Has a great cushiony, but very responsive feel at impact. Easy to generate power, tons of spin, and surprisingly, easy to control the shots. Great to volley with and serves were simply amazing. The heaviness of spin shots was just sick. This frame is going to be very attractive to a very wide range of players, from recreational, to mid level players, to advanced. As far as I could tell, frame really has no weaknesses.

I definitely believe this racquet is going to absolutely dominate public courts everywhere. This frame truly is a SPIN monster. Wilson absolutely knocked it out of the park with this one and Hit a Home Run.

One more note:
Every tester I saw, hit with much more spin with the 99S than with any other frame. This was backed up by the data of every playtester.

Sorry for the short review, I'll try and answer as many questions as I can.

Wow, sounds great. As long as it has some oomph behind it and isn't just all about the spin (like some ppl find the Exo 100, for example), well, I'd be curious to check one of these out.

mctennis 10-16-2012 09:43 PM

drakulie, thanks for the post review. I'm normally not a big Wilson fan. However, I will look forward to trying this racquet out. Sounds really promising. Maybe Wilson has struck pay dirt with this racquet. Good post.

UCSF2012 10-16-2012 10:21 PM

thanks for the info.

Currently, I get the most spin from the 88, with the 2nd runner-up not even close, so mass has more effect than string spacing. I'm curious what the heavy weights are for Wilson next year.

2ndServe 10-16-2012 10:55 PM

what kind of technology is making for such gains in spin?

mykoh 10-16-2012 10:57 PM

no tech, just a really open 16*15 string pattern.

not a wilson fan myself, but i can't wait for it and the new blades to come out! thanks for the FR drak!

Bartelby 10-16-2012 11:48 PM

I wonder whether its the Head's rounder shape that creates a better spin result compared to the Babolat's aero shape.

Automatix 10-16-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klementine79 (Post 6960067)
Thanks for the review Drak. It's on like donkey kong!

Is that 24mm constant? or tapered?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakulie (Post 6960071)
^^Good question, but unfortunately, don't know. Sorry. But did I say it creates an insane amount of spin? :)

This is the info I got. The only doubts I have are for the 96.

Model - Unstrung weight, headsize, string pattern, beam
Steam 96 - 289g, 96 sq. inch., 16x20, 22mm
Steam 99 - 304g, 99 sq. inch., 16x18, 22-24-22mm
Steam 99S - 304g, 99 sq. inch., 16x15, 22-24-22mm
Steam 105 - 289g, 105sq. inch., 16x19, 24-26-24mm
Steam 105S - 289g, 105 sq. inch., 16x15, 24-26-24mm

The specs for the 99s seem correct since Drakulie did write that the strung weight is 11.3oz which is ca 320g. So about 304g unstrung.

Cheers!

P.S.: Couch has the catalogue IIRC so he can verify the info I posted in September.

kimbahpnam 10-17-2012 12:02 AM

No undercover pics? :)

Fed Kennedy 10-17-2012 12:11 AM

Totally getting one.

pepka 10-17-2012 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mctennis (Post 6960205)
drakulie, thanks for the post review. I'm normally not a big Wilson fan. However, I will look forward to trying this racquet out. Sounds really promising. Maybe Wilson has struck pay dirt with this racquet. Good post.

Same here. I was sold on testing the new Blade 98 but now it sounds like i will have to add another racquet (actually two 16/18 and 16/15)... and let me just say, that testing sticks in Europe/Poland is PITA:evil:


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