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Gasolina 10-24-2012 05:26 AM

Knee Sleeve / Support recommendations
 
Background: I'm 30 yrs old, heavy build, doubles tennis 3x a week, basketball once a week. Starting to get constant knee pain more on the medial sides of the left and right knees. There's also pain on the lateral side but not so much.

I get more pain on the left knee, probably because my left leg is slightly longer than the right.

The pain is a lingering type, kinda acts up when bending the knees.

Any recommendations on what to get? The pain used to act up only after basketball but now feeling it after tennis. Only injury was a partial MCL tear on my right knee some 5 years ago.

Itagaki 10-24-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gasolina (Post 6972065)
Background: I'm 30 yrs old, heavy build, doubles tennis 3x a week, basketball once a week. Starting to get constant knee pain more on the medial sides of the left and right knees. There's also pain on the lateral side but not so much.

I get more pain on the left knee, probably because my left leg is slightly longer than the right.

The pain is a lingering type, kinda acts up when bending the knees.

Any recommendations on what to get? The pain used to act up only after basketball but now feeling it after tennis. Only injury was a partial MCL tear on my right knee some 5 years ago.

If it's just a sleeve you're looking for

Rehband original blue, Tommy Kono sleeves, and the newer gray Rehbands are probably the best on the market.

But it sounds like you might need something closer to a brace? The sleeves would be worth a try though

El Diablo 10-24-2012 09:08 AM

Even the most trivial differences in leg length can cause severe knee and hip problems. One hopes you have footwear that accurately makes up for the difference. And even with such footwear, the anatomical anomaly may make your level of exercise with a heavy build problematic.

Gasolina 10-24-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Itagaki (Post 6972414)
If it's just a sleeve you're looking for

Rehband original blue, Tommy Kono sleeves, and the newer gray Rehbands are probably the best on the market.

But it sounds like you might need something closer to a brace? The sleeves would be worth a try though

Really liking the look of the TK sleeves. It's also nice that its sold in pairs. I remember during my MCL recovery I really favored one knee over the other.

Regarding my leg length problems, unfortunately I have no choice but to just suck it up. The length difference is too much for an insole and my podiatrist told me to get special shoes with heel lifts. lol now that's a good look.

Fortunately the only real sport I can't last long is running. Tennis and basketball rely on a variety of movements so my foot ligaments don't get punished as much than with running straight.

Chas Tennis 10-24-2012 10:04 AM

I had a meniscus knee injury in 1999.

I happen to ask my Dr about knee wraps, the the type that don't have substantial structural elements.

He is a well-know orthopedic teaching specialist. He said that the issue of knee wraps often comes up at weekly meetings at the medical school (or hospital?).

He said that they are all agreed that there is one benefit - it helps the knee in warming up and keeping warm.

On other benefits, there was not much settled.

A more serious knee brace such as a prescription custom-fit Don Joy brace can limit how far the knee can extend or maybe limit other motion. It has a heavy metal hinge that limits knee extension. After my knee operation, I wore one for a few years to stop - as I understood it - the leg below the knee from going forward or the knee from hyperextending because my Dr was unsure of how tight my ACL was. It was comfortable and not restricting to movement. My knee is OK now.

A friend with arthritis has two heavier duty wrap types with Velcro tighteners and maybe some stiffeners of some kind. He likes them a lot.

Itagaki 10-24-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gasolina (Post 6972503)
Really liking the look of the TK sleeves. It's also nice that its sold in pairs. I remember during my MCL recovery I really favored one knee over the other.

Regarding my leg length problems, unfortunately I have no choice but to just suck it up. The length difference is too much for an insole and my podiatrist told me to get special shoes with heel lifts. lol now that's a good look.

Fortunately the only real sport I can't last long is running. Tennis and basketball rely on a variety of movements so my foot ligaments don't get punished as much than with running straight.

Also, i forgot about these, primarily because they do not fit the raw category i am familiar with

http://www.flexcart.com/members/elit...d=300&pid=3014

Super heavy duty sleeves, might have some rubber support in them (which can actually add poundage to squats, whereas the others do not). These would probably be much closer to what you would need if it's really bad.

Can't say how comfortable they are though.

Gasolina 10-24-2012 02:29 PM

Thanks for the recommendations guys. I'll probably just stick to those TK straps. As somebody said on the thread, the most benefits you get is the compression, and for now I think that's all I need.

Don't really want to venture braces or anything with straps. I will use them during tennis/basketball so it needs to be agile as well.

Chas Tennis 10-24-2012 04:55 PM

Do you know what the injury to your knee is?

Itagaki 10-24-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gasolina (Post 6973196)
Thanks for the recommendations guys. I'll probably just stick to those TK straps. As somebody said on the thread, the most benefits you get is the compression, and for now I think that's all I need.

Don't really want to venture braces or anything with straps. I will use them during tennis/basketball so it needs to be agile as well.

I will say be careful with the TK sleeves sizing. If you get a size too small it will be a HUGE pain to put them on

tennytive 10-25-2012 05:02 AM

I have some wrap arounds made by Stomatex. Not sure if you can still buy that brand anymore. They work well for me when I have soreness.

Also have a sleeve type I wear on occasion when only one knee bothers me.

Lately knees have been better so neither type worn for a while. Usually need them in the spring, I don't really know why.

Started wearing knee pads for basketball and volleyball too. Looks pretty dorky but they really help protect knees from impact injuries.

Gasolina 10-25-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas Tennis (Post 6973397)
Do you know what the injury to your knee is?

No real injury but they're just really sore / weak right now. Had a massage 2 days ago and helped a lot. They don't really get that sore before.

I think I'm just looking at injury prevention now. We all know how it sucks if you don't get to play

Gasolina 10-25-2012 08:44 AM

Hey guys anybody used this http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Pro-...TEC-PGFKS.html ?

Figured I'd look no further than here on TW. A lot of review from other sleeves say they are insufficient for tennis/basketball. This looks promising

Chas Tennis 10-25-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gasolina (Post 6974352)
No real injury but they're just really sore / weak right now. Had a massage 2 days ago and helped a lot. They don't really get that sore before.

I think I'm just looking at injury prevention now. We all know how it sucks if you don't get to play

There are many recent threads with information on knee injuries.

Search- meniscus .... knee pain ..... posture knee pain .. lateral collateral ligament ... medial collateral ligament ..

Look at the CharlieFedererer illustrations and discussions.

I'd take pain to be a clear indication of injury unless certain otherwise. (I hate to deal with the uncertainty of some pain - my wrist gives me a little light pain now after some strokes.....)

You need to know what is stressing your knee, first with a diagnosis of the injury by a qualified Dr who can examine you.

If you have posture problems you might be stressing some part of your knee's structure and - short or long term - developing a chronic condition. Posture issues are often difficult to diagnose.

I subscribe to the view that many - if not most- chronic injuries (permanent conditions) might result from failure to allow healing very early on. Continuing to play.....

LuckyR 10-25-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas Tennis (Post 6972624)
I had a meniscus knee injury in 1999.

I happen to ask my Dr about knee wraps, the the type that don't have substantial structural elements.

He is a well-know orthopedic teaching specialist. He said that the issue of knee wraps often comes up at weekly meetings at the medical school (or hospital?).

He said that they are all agreed that there is one benefit - it helps the knee in warming up and keeping warm.

On other benefits, there was not much settled.

A more serious knee brace such as a prescription custom-fit Don Joy brace can limit how far the knee can extend or maybe limit other motion. It has a heavy metal hinge that limits knee extension. After my knee operation, I wore one for a few years to stop - as I understood it - the leg below the knee from going forward or the knee from hyperextending because my Dr was unsure of how tight my ACL was. It was comfortable and not restricting to movement. My knee is OK now.

A friend with arthritis has two heavier duty wrap types with Velcro tighteners and maybe some stiffeners of some kind. He likes them a lot.


There are two other proven benefits of such a device:

1- Reminding you during play that you have a bum knee and to subconsciously take it easy

2- Get sympathy points from generous opposition

2ndServe 11-02-2012 10:53 AM

try this, seems to really help me and got great reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Cho-Pat-Dual-A.../dp/B000QRG970


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