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dominikk1985 10-28-2012 07:16 AM

Players with very good strokes that never quite made it to the top
 
Some players have very good strokes but never quite make it to the top. Name some players who you think had the strokes but never quite made it (this is debatable of course but still try:)). active players can be mentioned too but they should be towards the end of the career so that it is not expected that they make it.

One player I liked when he was young was the Dane kristian pless. he won a junior GS and had a promision start but never made it past 50 in the world ranking or so. he had very nice and big flat groundstrokes and was a tall guy. but injuries derailed his career I think.

kiki 10-28-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 6979386)
Some players have very good strokes but never quite make it to the top. Name some players who you think had the strokes but never quite made it (this is debatable of course but still try:)). active players can be mentioned too but they should be towards the end of the career so that it is not expected that they make it.

One player I liked when he was young was the Dane kristian pless. he won a junior GS and had a promision start but never made it past 50 in the world ranking or so. he had very nice and big flat groundstrokes and was a tall guy. but injuries derailed his career I think.

What do you mean to the top? top 5? top 10? top 20?

I can tell a lot of them, but first we need to know what is to the top

dominikk1985 10-28-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kiki (Post 6979406)
What do you mean to the top? top 5? top 10? top 20?

I can tell a lot of them, but first we need to know what is to the top

well I know that is tricky. let's make that cutoff at a consistent top20 (short stint doesn't count so maybe at least 25 weeks in the top20 or so). however you can change the criteria if you think that a player had way more talent than his ranking.

treblings 10-28-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dominikk1985 (Post 6979469)
well I know that is tricky. let's make that cutoff at a consistent top20 (short stint doesn't count so maybe at least 25 weeks in the top20 or so). however you can change the criteria if you think that a player had way more talent than his ranking.

you´re basically asking about the ´under-achievers´, right?
players who didn´t fulfill their talent?

vive le beau jeu ! 10-28-2012 11:34 AM

arazi ? goellner ?... gulbis (still can !) ?

kiki 10-28-2012 01:06 PM

Amritraj, John LLoyd,Krishnan,Mark Cox.

dominikk1985 10-28-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by treblings (Post 6980108)
you´re basically asking about the ´under-achievers´, right?
players who didn´t fulfill their talent?

don't argue what "top" is. just post names:D. the underachiever question: well kind off but great strokes and ability are not always the same. if you have great strokes but you move like a slug then you technically didn't underachieve. so this is about great strokes but not really the results that correspend with that whatever that means:).

I also think arazi was a good choice. he was kinda short but he had a great touch. also his fellow countryman el aynaoui (sp?) was a very nice player with powerfull strokes (legendary match with Arod). I'm not sure if he was top20 but I don't care. I think he could have done a little more with his strokes.

LeeD 10-28-2012 02:31 PM

Most 6.0's have very good strokes. But only a handful make it.
1. Mental
2. Injuries
3. Opportunities
4. timing

Mustard 10-28-2012 02:44 PM

Younes El Aynaoui. His talent was phenomenal, but injuries always got in the way.

BauerAlmeida 10-28-2012 04:53 PM

Agustin Calleri.

Leelord337 10-28-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BauerAlmeida (Post 6980656)
Agustin Calleri.

I agree, he had one of the most beautiful 1hbhs ever.

gotta throw guillermo garcia lopez in there too. Julien Benneteau is the best player on tour without a title

also nicolas mahut and peter polansky

sonicare 10-28-2012 05:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTjWpcs1Vj4


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Dancevic

Only 3 years younger than Roger so i don't know if he could possibly copy Roger's strokes. There is a definite resemblance though.

here is one against Nadal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMXdbKerv4g

pc1 10-28-2012 06:56 PM

Don't knew the qualifications here but here goes--
Vijay Amritrau
Henri Leconte
Miloslav Mecir
Michael Chang-Was never number one.
Tony Roche-See Chang

roundiesee 10-29-2012 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pc1 (Post 6980822)
Don't knew the qualifications here but here goes--
Vijay Amritrau
Henri LeconteMiloslav Mecir
Michael Chang-Was never number one.
Tony Roche-See Chang

Always hero-worshipped Leconte when I was young, and wished I could play his swash-buckling tennis; too bad he under-achieved in many ways, and was unfortunately soundly beaten in the only slam final he made, :(

Frankc 10-29-2012 06:36 AM

Is the thread about great practice players - versus match achievers?

treblings 10-29-2012 07:16 AM

Eric Jelen

dominikk1985 10-29-2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicare (Post 6980664)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTjWpcs1Vj4


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Dancevic

Only 3 years younger than Roger so i don't know if he could possibly copy Roger's strokes. There is a definite resemblance though.

here is one against Nadal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMXdbKerv4g

certainly nice strokes.

kiki 10-29-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by treblings (Post 6981480)
Eric Jelen

Bumgert,Kunkhe,Bundig and Rolf Ghering!!

treblings 10-29-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kiki (Post 6982227)
Bumgert,Kunkhe,Bundig and Rolf Ghering!!

Bungert, Kuhnke, Buding and Rolf Gehring:):):) you couldn´t get at least one name right?:)

Uli Pinner

LeeD 10-29-2012 02:42 PM

MaratSafin
PetrKorda
JohanKriek


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