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JTJet 11-03-2012 04:56 PM

Overpronated Feet / Flat Feet?
 
Today I went to a foot doctor and discovered I have overpronated feet and am flat footed. At least that's what I think I have. Basically, more weight is put down on the inside of my feet instead of being evenly distributed. The doctor got a mold of my feet and are going to make a pad for me to put inside my shoes.

I've recently been having some pain under my knees when applying pressure on my legs. This only happens after some running. The doctor told me that because my feet are overpronated, my joins in my leg got messed up.

Is there a way to fix the pain under my knee? I have been icing it down, but the pain always comes back. Will the padding that the doctor prescribed me help? Will I have to buy overpronated shoes? I'm not very knowledgeable in this area, so all comments are welcome. :)

LeeD 11-03-2012 05:01 PM

Superfeet orange or greens.
My feet have a full footprint when wet, meaning no arch whatsoever.
I played 3 years of high school football and basketball, 2 years varsity in football, all 3 in basketball.
Any arch support is good.
Flexing the muscles when resting is better, something you should do 3 times a day, for 15 minutes each day, to force your arch muscle to work.
Nothing is free in life. Pain is one payment.

JTJet 11-03-2012 05:49 PM

The superfeet insoles look promising. Do the greens actually absorb more shock than the oranges? If so, I would want to get the greens. Thanks for the flexing tip also. If it makes any sense, my feet seem more arched.

SystemicAnomaly 11-04-2012 02:26 AM

I've had moderate success with Superfeet Green and Orange. I've also tried other non-custom and semi-custom orthotics. I've gotten the best results with the Custom Fit orthotic insoles from DS:

http://www.footmapping.com/footmapping/home/index.jspa

akamc 11-04-2012 12:24 PM

I'd suggest first using the orthotics prescribed by your doctor and then discuss other alternatives with him if those don't work. It also takes some time to get used to them.

If your feet are truly flat, you may find the Superfeet green or orange uncomfortable because they are designed for normal to high arches. The Superfeet blue might fit you better. Try them at an athletic or shoe store before buying.

LeeD 11-04-2012 12:58 PM

My feet are completely flat, without a hint of an arch, meaning full footprint when feet are wet.
Greens and Oranges are fine, a little too low.
PerformanceMaxx are also too low.
Birenstock arch supports are too low.
All do something, but hardly anything better than no arch support, since flat feet get their arch support from the ground. I have NO arch whatsoever.

spacediver 11-05-2012 07:02 AM

you might want to watch these two videos (rebuilding the feet):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha6ZxfG6Tz8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUHEVWtBlac

LeeD 11-05-2012 09:24 AM

what they say almost makes sense...
However...
Just like the face cream commericals for girls, can you really believe them if the models are sub 20 year olds with perfect complextion?
Those two guys have really high arches, never had flat feet.

JTJet 11-05-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacediver (Post 6995939)
you might want to watch these two videos (rebuilding the feet):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha6ZxfG6Tz8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUHEVWtBlac

Okay, so what I got from those two videos are to:

Create torque by twisting my foot outwards while standing and walking. (Left foot counter clockwise and right foot clockwise?) My calves feel flexed while doing this. Is this right?

Try to stand on the balls of your feet for two minutes.

Do two to five minutes of jump rope, but don't let your heels touch the ground and keep the neutral position.

Make sure that your feet do not collapse or pronate while doing any of this.

spacediver 11-05-2012 07:03 PM

yep the corkscrew torque should be outwards like you describe (but no motion of course). Not sure if calves should feel flexed.

One of the key points is the idea that you can rebuild the musculature in your foot by engaging in natural barefoot exercises.

According to this thinking, orthotics are only a temporary solution, and can actually make things worse by not allowing the foot to develop its own self sufficient structure (although in extreme cases they can be necessary).

LeeD 11-06-2012 11:07 AM

Still, the problem here is that BOTH guys shown have really high arches, naturally. And they're telling us how to KEEP the arches, not necessarily develop a arch from flat feet.

WildVolley 11-06-2012 11:39 AM

I don't know what people with flat feet should do, but I do know that you can strengthen the muscles in your feet by doing stuff barefoot.

I live in a beach town, so it isn't unusual to see people in flip-flops or barefoot, especially during the summer. I've been going barefoot as often as I can and trying to get zero-drop flexible shoes except when I'm playing tennis.

My feet have gotten considerably stronger and I now understand that my feet do not need arch support. Shoes, to the extent that they are supportive, act like casts, which limits foot movement and allows the muscles to weaken. If you transition to barefoot, you'll feel actual muscle soreness, not injury soreness.

Going barefoot cured my PF.

LeeD 11-06-2012 12:18 PM

Strange you should post that.
I used to run around the beach barefoot from ages 8-13, while my Dad was fishing from shore, me just chugging around, building firepits, and generally checking out the beach for about a mile N and S.
I had the flattest feet to start, ended up with flat feet after that.
Possibly, it's not possible for someone with high arches to make any kind of judgement or advice for flat feet people. Possibly.
Like the example I used. Perfect complexion 17 year old girls selling cream to make your face look younger. It just ain't right.
Like those two guys.


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