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tamdoankc 11-12-2012 05:21 AM

So you want to start your own tennis line?
 
A little background on my company. Some of you TT old timers might remember me starting a small tennis apparel company years ago (Ozone Athletics). My objective was to learn as much as possible and start with a minimum budget of a couple hundred dollars and see how far I can take it. I got lots of advice and opinions from TT members on design and fabrics and I was off and running. I sponsored teams, juniors and journeymen pros with free clothing. Highest ranked pro (154) was Pavel Snobel from the Czech. His agent helped me with networking in Europe and things really took off. A corporation came in and made me an offer and I sold the company/brand and basically retired (I'm 37 this year) and spend almost everyday playing tennis.

Well, I'm getting a bit antsy again but also want to help a lucky TT member since without TT I'd still be sitting behind a desk. I know there's at least one person here that's in the same position I was in years ago. If you have interest in tennis/athletic apparel PM me your story. This offer will be open to one person only. My contacts will be open to you and I will help you start/create your own tennis apparel line, team and club uniforms, etc the best i can. This is not a partnership so only the motivated need apply.

Pics or it didn't happen:
http://www.pavelsnobel.com/?location...=mistr-cr-2011
http://www.pavelsnobel.com/galerie/
http://db.tt/esxWWEBq

treblings 11-12-2012 05:59 AM

that is certainly one interesting post, to say the least
are you open for questions?
if someone would ask me whether to start an own tennis clothing line, i would definitely say no. the big players seem to dominate the market, the internet is dumping prices,...

Bergboy123 11-12-2012 06:27 AM

Can I ask how big the offer was, that you are able to retire? :D

tamdoankc 11-12-2012 06:51 AM

Sure. Ask away.

I didn't start with the goal of becoming the next Phil Knight. Just wanted to prove to myself that anything can be done if you set your mind to it.
It'd be unrealistic to try to compete with the big three.

Quote:

Originally Posted by treblings (Post 7010413)
that is certainly one interesting post, to say the least
are you open for questions?
if someone would ask me whether to start an own tennis clothing line, i would definitely say no. the big players seem to dominate the market, the internet is dumping prices,...


tamdoankc 11-12-2012 06:54 AM

Unless I'm really careless I'll be just fine. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bergboy123 (Post 7010460)
Can I ask how big the offer was, that you are able to retire? :D


treblings 11-12-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamdoankc (Post 7010491)
Sure. Ask away.

I didn't start with the goal of becoming the next Phil Knight. Just wanted to prove to myself that anything can be done if you set your mind to it.
It'd be unrealistic to try to compete with the big three.

thanks, much appreciated
did you think that you could do anything better than the big players?
that you had something to offer that wasn´t there?
in todays global economy that is a common mindset, that if you want to succeed you need to find a niche for your product.

Borrelli 11-12-2012 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamdoankc (Post 7010499)
Unless I'm really careless I'll be just fine. ;)

Could you say if it was in the six figure range or seven?

Also, I take it your located in Europe. Something like that here in the States I don't think would get much traction. How much did you have to travel at first to get your product out there?

Thanks!

mix_ice 11-12-2012 07:52 AM

Now this is interesting.. Been wanting to do this here in the Philippines and I don't know where to start. I visity TT again and here's your post. Can't seem to be able to PM you though but I'd really like to learn how you did it. :)

tamdoankc 11-12-2012 07:53 AM

Good questions.

I can only speak in regards to apparel. Truthfully, anyone who knows how to sew can make a shirt as good or better than the big players (well maybe with a bit of practice).

When you pay $75 for a shirt from the big players what are you really paying for? It's just fabric, thread and maybe some ink/dye. Think about the raw material costs and labor and you'd be amazed.

I'm not a very creative guy so niche products aren't my niche :p I'd rather take something that's proven and then make it better and/or cheaper. Just the way my mind works.


Quote:

Originally Posted by treblings (Post 7010508)
thanks, much appreciated
did you think that you could do anything better than the big players?
that you had something to offer that wasn´t there?
in todays global economy that is a common mindset, that if you want to succeed you need to find a niche for your product.


tamdoankc 11-12-2012 08:12 AM

I'm actually located in SE Asia. With a little investigation you can find out exactly where I'm based. I was born and raised in the US. Just living the American dream overseas.

I actually made my very first sale in the US. When I first started out my father sold (soldout) them out of the trunk of his car. Because of the way things turned out in EU and SEA I didn't have time or energy to pursue the US market. Although, I'm sure it would've done just as well.

I've done 0 travelling in regards to business. Lots of emails and mailing out samples though.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Borrelli (Post 7010564)
Could you say if it was in the six figure range or seven?

Also, I take it your located in Europe. Something like that here in the States I don't think would get much traction. How much did you have to travel at first to get your product out there?

Thanks!


Borrelli 11-12-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamdoankc (Post 7010631)
I'm actually located in SE Asia. With a little investigation you can find out exactly where I'm based. I was born and raised in the US. Just living the American dream overseas.

I actually made my very first sale in the US. When I first started out my father sold (soldout) them out of the trunk of his car. Because of the way things turned out in EU and SEA I didn't have time or energy to pursue the US market. Although, I'm sure it would've done just as well.

I've done 0 travelling in regards to business. Lots of emails and mailing out samples though.

Cool. Thanks for the reply.

What was your annual revenue? Who were your biggest customers?

Thanks again!

tamdoankc 11-12-2012 08:18 AM

Go to my profile and send email.

If its a general question just post in the thread. I don't want to get tons of emails asking the same question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mix_ice (Post 7010603)
Now this is interesting.. Been wanting to do this here in the Philippines and I don't know where to start. I visity TT again and here's your post. Can't seem to be able to PM you though but I'd really like to learn how you did it. :)


tamdoankc 11-12-2012 08:45 AM

Sorry I can't answer questions about my former business. All I can say is everyone will be different. Luck, desire, hard work, willingness to learn, commitment. Thats all you need.

You don't have to only create for your own brand but for others also. If a company likes your stuff they'll pay you to make it for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borrelli (Post 7010638)
Cool. Thanks for the reply.

What was your annual revenue? Who were your biggest customers?

Thanks again!


Tennis Sucks 11-12-2012 08:59 AM

Ironically enough my teammate and I are starting an apparel company. We were joking around with creating shirts for the upcoming season and came up with a good concept, logo/identity and name.

We will be going for the more casual look (t-shirts, hats, pullovers, sweatshirts) at the beginning as opposed to performance gear.

We're looking at handing out samples on league nights, custom gear and sponsoring events.

treblings 11-12-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamdoankc (Post 7010605)
I'm not a very creative guy so niche products aren't my niche :p I'd rather take something that's proven and then make it better and/or cheaper. Just the way my mind works.

making something better a/o cheaper seems a niche all by itself:)
did you sell the clothing yourself over the internet or did you bother with retailers?

Tennis00 03-03-2013 01:34 PM

What tips about making the first line would you give to a newcomer in the business.

kimguroo 03-03-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tennis00 (Post 7248785)
What tips about making the first line would you give to a newcomer in the business.

1. Find good manufacturers
2. Decent design and color choice.

Stick It Wear?! 03-07-2013 12:45 AM

Tried to email you. I'm interested in knowing more about your story. I sell my line here on Tennis Warehouse. It's called Stick It Wear?! (mens & womens)

You can also find me on stickitwear.com and facebook.com/stickitwear.

If you can email me. My name is Joe Durica. Stickitwear@gmail.com


Best,

Joe

Tennis00 03-09-2013 09:58 AM

Do manufacturers require you to provide supplies.

sthomas5 10-21-2013 09:50 AM

Your Guidance would be appreciated
 
Greetings,

I hope all is well. I just joined this forum last week and I search the topic "starting a tennis clothing line." I came across this thread and was so excited. I know it is very old, but I am so excited about my ideas for a tennis apparel line that caters to the "regular gal" and I hope you can be a mentor to me in this process. I live and breathe tennis and began playing for varous leagues about a year and a half ago. I have noticed that alot of the ladies complain about the same issues with tennisware and I have so many great ideas. I actually wore one of my prototypes to my last ALTA Sunday match this weekend and everyone loved it. They kept asking where I got my pants/tights and when I said I created them, they bout died. I know that the ideas that are keeping me up at night are being revealed through the creative intelligence within me and I want act on this. Please let me know if you are still available to guide someone through the process. Sharren. My email is sthomas5@bellsouth.net.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tamdoankc (Post 7010357)
A little background on my company. Some of you TT old timers might remember me starting a small tennis apparel company years ago (Ozone Athletics). My objective was to learn as much as possible and start with a minimum budget of a couple hundred dollars and see how far I can take it. I got lots of advice and opinions from TT members on design and fabrics and I was off and running. I sponsored teams, juniors and journeymen pros with free clothing. Highest ranked pro (154) was Pavel Snobel from the Czech. His agent helped me with networking in Europe and things really took off. A corporation came in and made me an offer and I sold the company/brand and basically retired (I'm 37 this year) and spend almost everyday playing tennis.

Well, I'm getting a bit antsy again but also want to help a lucky TT member since without TT I'd still be sitting behind a desk. I know there's at least one person here that's in the same position I was in years ago. If you have interest in tennis/athletic apparel PM me your story. This offer will be open to one person only. My contacts will be open to you and I will help you start/create your own tennis apparel line, team and club uniforms, etc the best i can. This is not a partnership so only the motivated need apply.

Pics or it didn't happen:
http://www.pavelsnobel.com/?location...=mistr-cr-2011
http://www.pavelsnobel.com/galerie/
http://db.tt/esxWWEBq



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