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tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 10:42 AM

Wall practice, please critique
 
Some wall hitting at lunch time, please critique my forehand/backhand. Thanks.

http://youtu.be/fbzm2t5O4Lo

UCSF2012 11-14-2012 11:23 AM

Every shot would've gone long in a real court. Don't punish the wall. You're learning the wrong thing.

tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 11:27 AM

In fact they wouldn't. They are the exact shot I made on court. Not sure about your "WRONG THING".

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Originally Posted by UCSF2012 (Post 7016245)
Every shot would've gone long in a real court. Don't punish the wall. You're learning the wrong thing.


psv255 11-14-2012 12:11 PM

Good shoulder and hip rotation, decent power!

You look to be swinging across your body quite a bit on your forehand (sub-par footwork?), which results in your body leaning over to your left as you're following through.
Also, it seems like you're hitting more off the back foot, so I'd suggest keeping your weight more forward.

Consistent, if slightly stiff, backhand. Can't offer anything on the 2HBH, sorry!

tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 12:23 PM

Good observation. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by psv255 (Post 7016358)
Good shoulder and hip rotation, decent power!

You look to be swinging across your body quite a bit on your forehand (sub-par footwork?), which results in your body leaning over to your left as you're following through.
Also, it seems like you're hitting more off the back foot, so I'd suggest keeping your weight more forward.

Consistent, if slightly stiff, backhand. Can't offer anything on the 2HBH, sorry!


UCSF2012 11-14-2012 01:06 PM

I see, you're fishing for compliments, not critiques.

Hard, flat shots with 3-5 ft net clearance. Hit so hard you can take them off the first bounce. Of course those are staying in.

vil 11-14-2012 01:56 PM

Lucky, you've got white shirt in that video, otherwise you would be completely invisible against that dark wall.:) I think you should position camera a bit closer, or place it behind you on some pedestal or ( I use rubbish bin) something that will elevate the view and bring it closer in detail. One problem sometimes with wall is, it tends to rush your strokes. It's great for footwork workout but not super ideal for shot making. I sometimes hit the wall as well, when I have no partner,I get new balls that bounce well. That way I can stand a bit further away, taking medium pace balls, still hit them after one bounce but more importantly, it will give me extra time to prepare for the shot and get my feet right.

TomT 11-14-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vil (Post 7016569)
I think you should position camera a bit closer, or place it behind you on some pedestal or ( I use rubbish bin) something that will elevate the view and bring it closer in detail.

Agree. Some sort of tripod about head high and behind is the best, imo. Funny you should mention rubbish bin, as that's what I've been using as my "tripod". Must get a real one. :)

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Originally Posted by vil (Post 7016569)
One problem sometimes with wall is, it tends to rush your strokes. It's great for footwork workout but not super ideal for shot making. I sometimes hit the wall as well, when I have no partner,I get new balls that bounce well. That way I can stand a bit further away, taking medium pace balls, still hit them after one bounce but more importantly, it will give me extra time to prepare for the shot and get my feet right.

Yeah, agree. I watched your wall vid. Nice hitting. It's hard for me to tell if OP in this thread is the optimal distance from the wall.

TomT 11-14-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisfan2k (Post 7016181)
Some wall hitting at lunch time, please critique my forehand/backhand. Thanks.

http://youtu.be/fbzm2t5O4Lo

Enjoyed watching the vid. Thanks for posting. I'm not qualified to critique. Your strokes seem pretty solid to me.

Sky_Boy 11-14-2012 02:40 PM

i would suggest split stepping.. your also using alot of upper body to generate power.. greater knee bend would help...

5263 11-14-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCSF2012 (Post 7016467)
I see, you're fishing for compliments, not critiques.

Hard, flat shots with 3-5 ft net clearance. Hit so hard you can take them off the first bounce. Of course those are staying in.

I think he is right that they will stay in. He has good TS and I think his rt to left
action is a strength not a weakness as another posted. It might be bad if he
moved his head too much or was off balance....but he doesn't and isn't!
His excellent TS will keep those strong shots in nicely in most cases I expect and
this is much like what I describe when talking of biting topspin shots vs the loopy
ones most post about.

Nice vid and looking very good!

sureshs 11-14-2012 03:16 PM

Wall is completely lacking in footwork and will never become a 4.5.

Seriously, you have the physical and mental energy to do this in an intense way, and that is really fantastic. I would just get bored.

One thing I would like to know is how much topspin you are putting on the ball. I find that when I put a lot of spin, the ball will not come back the way it is coming back to you. It will "reflect" sideways a lot more and dip down and die earlier after the bounce. Is this a wall with some special anti-spin coating like some table tennis rubbers?

LeeD 11-14-2012 03:32 PM

Looks very good.
Nice stroke, nice spin control and pace.
Hard to split step when hitting against a wall.
So, are you a 4.0? You hit good enough to be better, but match play is always a different animal.

njboy 11-14-2012 04:56 PM

Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisfan2k (Post 7016181)
Some wall hitting at lunch time, please critique my forehand/backhand. Thanks.

http://youtu.be/fbzm2t5O4Lo

Good. Keep going.

Bowtiesarecool 11-14-2012 05:08 PM

My back hurts just watching your vid.

sundaypunch 11-14-2012 06:51 PM

I think it's great. You make good contact with the ball and seem to have good control. Most of the shots looked like they would have been staying in play to me. It's not easy to keep a consistent rally going on the wall for 4-minutes (although most here will tell you otherwise).

tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 08:17 PM

That's not what I meant. If you say everything is wrong, at least you can point out a few and correct me?

I don't hit flat, I hit topspin with a semi-western forehand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCSF2012 (Post 7016467)
I see, you're fishing for compliments, not critiques.

Hard, flat shots with 3-5 ft net clearance. Hit so hard you can take them off the first bounce. Of course those are staying in.


tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 08:20 PM

The ball I used today are almost dead. I usually stand at baseline. The camera I put at the stairs, can't move the stair. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by vil (Post 7016569)
Lucky, you've got white shirt in that video, otherwise you would be completely invisible against that dark wall.:) I think you should position camera a bit closer, or place it behind you on some pedestal or ( I use rubbish bin) something that will elevate the view and bring it closer in detail. One problem sometimes with wall is, it tends to rush your strokes. It's great for footwork workout but not super ideal for shot making. I sometimes hit the wall as well, when I have no partner,I get new balls that bounce well. That way I can stand a bit further away, taking medium pace balls, still hit them after one bounce but more importantly, it will give me extra time to prepare for the shot and get my feet right.


tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 08:21 PM

Thanks. I happen to be in the south palm beach area. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomT (Post 7016600)
Enjoyed watching the vid. Thanks for posting. I'm not qualified to critique. Your strokes seem pretty solid to me.


tennisfan2k 11-14-2012 08:22 PM

Thanks. From the video I barely bent my knees...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky_Boy (Post 7016654)
i would suggest split stepping.. your also using alot of upper body to generate power.. greater knee bend would help...



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