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kragster 11-19-2012 02:09 PM

Logical Flaw: Todays Baseliners would't adapt to 90s conditions
 
I see this criticism of today's baseliners - oh they would have been screwed if conditions were faster. The data point that supposedly supports this is "Well every time they play on fast courts they don't seem to do well so clearly they are not capable of adapting". Adaptation is not instantaneous - it takes time and people forget the concept of return on investment. Today's baseliners are so good at the baseline, because they have spent the majority of their time practising those kinds of rallies rather than S&V. They can afford to do that because 80-90% of courts reward baseline play. If only 50% of courts rewarded good baseline play, the same baseliners of today would spend more time honing their S&V skills. Yes perhaps there is some innate ability needed to be a good S&Ver. But a lot of it comes down to technique. And technique comes down to practice. And you only practice something if you think the time spent is worth the effort.

A big tall guy like Del potro might have been a complete S&Ver instead of a powerful baseliner, had conditions been different.

NadalDramaQueen 11-19-2012 03:37 PM

When I hear these comments, I usually take it to mean that the major advantages of some players, like movement, defense, and stamina, would be nullified or at least reduced by faster court conditions (and technology, in case Mustard pops in here ;) ).

Of course players will adapt to win in the conditions they face, but I don't think it is a leap to suggest that a player will naturally be suited for a certain set of conditions. Whether or not Becker is a good judge of this, I know not.

Bobby Jr 11-19-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kragster (Post 7025049)
....And technique comes down to practice. And you only practice something if you think the time spent is worth the effort....

No it does not. Practice is only one aspect of it. Acknowledging where you are and where you want to be with regards to technique and having the aptitude, plus often the support person (coach), around you to make the changes, work on them until they stick and come naturally is what it takes to improve technique. And since perfect technique is basically a unicorn of learning the target you're aiming for is often quite blurry - more a general move in the direction you think will result in an improvement.

Failings in this area are the norm, not the exception, and why the vast majority of tennis players globally never really improve much - they just get more honed at what they've got.

Take Nadal as an example. No amount of practising that he could practically undertake would make his backhand volley great - he would most likely just mitigate the shortcomings of it. To make it great he would need to change how he hits it, not how much he practices.


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