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Achilles82 11-20-2012 03:14 AM

Can someone explain this to me please (prize money)
 
Ok...

So Novak Djokovic just got 2 850 000$ for a total of 12,803,737 . Last week it was $9,953,737 .


At the end of the season No1 player gets 2 000 000 dollars, if he plays all required masters 1000 tournaments (which Novak did play).

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Corporate/Rulebook.aspx

Here's a link to atp rulebook for more about that.


Also, even if we count 500 000$ from US open series, which Novak got, and they didn't count it in his prize money... so even if we count that thats 2,5 mill .


How and why did Novak got 2 850 000 dollars?

joeri888 11-20-2012 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles82 (Post 7025852)
Ok...

So Novak Djokovic just got 2 850 000$ for a total of 12,803,737 . Last week it was $9,953,737 .


At the end of the season No1 player gets 2 000 000 dollars, if he plays all required masters 1000 tournaments (which Novak did play).

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Corporate/Rulebook.aspx

Here's a link to atp rulebook for more about that.


Also, even if we count 500 000$ from US open series, which Novak got, and they didn't count it right away... so even if we count that thats 2,5 mill .


How and why did Novak got 2 850 000 dollars?

Because he won the WTF?

Achilles82 11-20-2012 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeri888 (Post 7025856)
Because he won the WTF?

No, that was already counted. For WTF Novak got 1 760 000, that was week before.


2 weeks ago Novak had $8,193,737 , last week he had $9,953,737 . So thats 1 760 000 more. So it's not WTF.

boredone3456 11-20-2012 03:47 AM

Nevermind...just looked above and my comment was addressed already...LOL... me before coffee

Andres 11-20-2012 04:28 AM

Regarding the US Series 500,000, it was counted in his prizemoney. He won 1,450,000 for his USO runner-up, but the runner-up prizemoney was actually 950,000

So, if we add the 2 million at the end of the year, we're still 850K short. Lemme try finding some info. I find it strange as well.

Andres 11-20-2012 04:36 AM

The breakdown goes like this:


Australian Open
$2,372,910 - YTD: $2,372,910

Dubai Tennis Championships
$87,380 - YTD: $2,460,290

BNP Paribas Open
$203,816 - YTD: $2,664,106

Sony Ericsson Open
$659,775 - YTD: $3,323,881

Monte Carlo Masters
$295,008 - YTD: $3,618,889

Madrid Masters
$96,093 - YTD: $3,714,982

Rome Masters
$291,420 - YTD: $4,006,402

Roland Garros
$782,938 - YTD: $4,789,340

Wimbledon
$447,925 - YTD: $5,237,265

Rogers Cup
$522,550 - YTD: $5,759,815

Cincinnati
$262,610 - YTD: $6,022,425

US Open
$950,000 - YTD: $6,972,425

Beijing
$530,570 - YTD: $7,502,995

Shanghai
$669,450 - YTD: $8,172,445

Paris
$21,292 - YTD: $8,193,737

ATP World Tour Finals
$1,760,000 - YTD: $9,953,737

US Open Series bonus
$500,000 - YTD: $10,453,737

ATP Bonus Pool
$2,000,000 - YTD: $12,453,737

as of November 13, 2012

Where's the extra 400K?

El Diablo 11-20-2012 04:49 AM

Suffice it to say he did well this year. Is the exact amount of that much interest to anyone other than him and his accountant??

joeri888 11-20-2012 04:56 AM

Uhm, maybe he also won prize money with his humanitarian award? Or maybe he's been named 'player of the year' by now as well? Or maybe he participated in some doubles events for which he won some money? Or Davis Cup?

Andres 11-20-2012 04:59 AM

Ugh. He also played some doubles. D'oh!

Sometimes I forget doubles exist ;)

Thanks joeri ;)

Edit: Nnnnope. Only played two doubles matches, earning $3,816

vive le beau jeu ! 11-20-2012 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres (Post 7025937)
Ugh. He also played some doubles. D'oh!

Sometimes I forget doubles exist ;)

Thanks joeri ;)

Edit: Nnnnope. Only played two doubles matches, earning $3,816

i know it's an ITF event and not an ATP one, but as i don't know what source you use for his prize money... maybe it's what he earned with the hopman cup ?

ctbmar 11-20-2012 08:08 AM

2012 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.
Singles Prize Money
There was a participation Fee of $130,000.

Maybe there was a participation fee for Basel and for some other tournaments.

Andres 11-20-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctbmar (Post 7026245)
2012 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.
Singles Prize Money
There was a participation Fee of $130,000.

Maybe there was a participation fee for Basel and for some other tournaments.

Official or unofficial? Apparearance fees are not official prizemoney. Maybe the WTF is different.

Gonzo_style 11-20-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres (Post 7025914)
The breakdown goes like this:


Australian Open
$2,372,910 - YTD: $2,372,910

Dubai Tennis Championships
$87,380 - YTD: $2,460,290

BNP Paribas Open
$203,816 - YTD: $2,664,106

Sony Ericsson Open
$659,775 - YTD: $3,323,881

Monte Carlo Masters
$295,008 - YTD: $3,618,889

Madrid Masters
$96,093 - YTD: $3,714,982

Rome Masters
$291,420 - YTD: $4,006,402

Roland Garros
$782,938 - YTD: $4,789,340

Wimbledon
$447,925 - YTD: $5,237,265

Rogers Cup
$522,550 - YTD: $5,759,815

Cincinnati
$262,610 - YTD: $6,022,425

US Open
$950,000 - YTD: $6,972,425

Beijing
$530,570 - YTD: $7,502,995

Shanghai
$669,450 - YTD: $8,172,445

Paris
$21,292 - YTD: $8,193,737

ATP World Tour Finals
$1,760,000 - YTD: $9,953,737

US Open Series bonus
$500,000 - YTD: $10,453,737

ATP Bonus Pool
$2,000,000 - YTD: $12,453,737

as of November 13, 2012

Where's the extra 400K?

What about Abu Dhabi? Djokovic won that

woodrow1029 11-20-2012 09:37 AM

Could it maybe have something to do with him not being paid in US dollars at a lot of tournaments? Maybe based on when the figures above were factored in, the exchange rates had changed? Just a thought.

dimeaxe 11-20-2012 10:28 AM

So, that's why Becker angry, Novak earned in two years more money than Boris in his entire career.:)

Achilles82 11-20-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeri888 (Post 7025931)
Uhm, maybe he also won prize money with his humanitarian award? Or maybe he's been named 'player of the year' by now as well?


This is probably it. It's the only thing that makes a little bit of sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeri888 (Post 7025931)
Or maybe he participated in some doubles events for which he won some money? Or Davis Cup?

Doubles are already counted in his prize money, and btw, he won only around 3000$ in doubles. And he didn't play Davis Cup this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctbmar (Post 7026245)
2012 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.
Singles Prize Money
There was a participation Fee of $130,000.

participation fee is already counted in 1 760 000$ total.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo_style (Post 7026325)
What about Abu Dhabi? Djokovic won that

Abu Dhabi is not an ATP event, or ITF, it's an exibition tournament. And btw, for that he won 250k, so even if count that, we are still 100k short.

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodrow1029 (Post 7026396)
Could it maybe have something to do with him not being paid in US dollars at a lot of tournaments?

No it's not that. Soon as players win some prize money in Euros, AUS$ or UK pounds, they are immediately converted in US dollars when new rankings come out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodrow1029 (Post 7026396)
Maybe based on when the figures above were factored in, the exchange rates had changed? Just a thought.

And second, if it was that, then he wouldn't be off by exactly 850k. It would be like 436 874$ if you understand what I'm saying. There is no way it could be round number.


I can't believe no one knows the answer.

Achilles82 11-20-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres (Post 7025905)
Regarding the US Series 500,000, it was counted in his prizemoney. He won 1,450,000 for his USO runner-up, but the runner-up prizemoney was actually 950,000

So, if we add the 2 million at the end of the year, we're still 850K short. Lemme try finding some info. I find it strange as well.


He did won 1,45 mil in US open counting US bonus series, but they didn't count it, up until now I guess.

On August 27th Novak had $6,023,741

After US open, on September 10th, he had 6,972,425

So they didn't count US open bonus series.

Fee 11-20-2012 11:58 AM

Did he get a bonus for being year end number one?

Achilles82 11-20-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fee (Post 7026612)
Did he get a bonus for being year end number one?

Read the first post.


Yes he did got that, and that's 2 000 000$ . But he got 2 850 000$ . Where did extra 850k come from?

Andres 11-20-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles82 (Post 7026620)
Read the first post.


Yes he did got that, and that's 2 000 000$ . But he got 2 850 000$ . Where did extra 850k come from?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres (Post 7025914)
The breakdown goes like this:


Australian Open
$2,372,910 - YTD: $2,372,910

Dubai Tennis Championships
$87,380 - YTD: $2,460,290

BNP Paribas Open
$203,816 - YTD: $2,664,106

Sony Ericsson Open
$659,775 - YTD: $3,323,881

Monte Carlo Masters
$295,008 - YTD: $3,618,889

Madrid Masters
$96,093 - YTD: $3,714,982

Rome Masters
$291,420 - YTD: $4,006,402

Roland Garros
$782,938 - YTD: $4,789,340

Wimbledon
$447,925 - YTD: $5,237,265

Rogers Cup
$522,550 - YTD: $5,759,815

Cincinnati
$262,610 - YTD: $6,022,425

US Open
$950,000 - YTD: $6,972,425

Beijing
$530,570 - YTD: $7,502,995

Shanghai
$669,450 - YTD: $8,172,445

Paris
$21,292 - YTD: $8,193,737

ATP World Tour Finals
$1,760,000 - YTD: $9,953,737

US Open Series bonus
$500,000 - YTD: $10,453,737

ATP Bonus Pool
$2,000,000 - YTD: $12,453,737

as of November 13, 2012

Where's the extra 400K?

It's not 850,000 in the end. We should get $12,803,737 (doubles included) from $12,453,737. It's 350,000 exactly. Where from?


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