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McEnroeisanartist 11-29-2012 12:11 PM

Defeated #1 Seed or Defending Champion - Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal
 
Defeated the #1 Seed at a Grand Slam
Djokovic - 2
Federer - 2
Nadal - 6 (the record) - 3 times (06 French, 07 French, 08 French), he defeated Federer, when Federer should not have been the #1 seed.

Defeated the Defending Champion at a Grand Slam
Djokovic - 4
Federer - 2
Nadal - 1

Sabratha 11-29-2012 12:19 PM

Nadal does well when he isn't the underdog is what that statistic says.

woodrow1029 11-29-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7038279)
he defeated Federer, when Federer should not have been the #1 seed.

Why should he not have been the #1 seed?

Sabratha 11-29-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by woodrow1029 (Post 7038321)
Why should he not have been the #1 seed?

I think he's implying that the French Open should have a similar seeding equation as Wimbledon - in which the seeding is finalized by their total win(s) and results on grass.

McEnroeisanartist 11-29-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha (Post 7038351)
I think he's implying that the French Open should have a similar seeding equation as Wimbledon - in which the seeding is finalized by their total win(s) and results on grass.

Yes that is what I am implying. I mean I know the French love Federer, but did the tournament organizers, or anyone for that matter, think that Federer, and not Nadal would win the French Open, in 2006, 2007, and 2008.

kOaMaster 11-29-2012 02:11 PM

it's hard to win against the defending champion or the number one seed when you're both yourself.

although I like your threads, you had better.

Blocker 11-30-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kOaMaster (Post 7038531)
it's hard to win against the defending champion or the number one seed when you're both yourself.

although I like your threads, you had better.

This. Close thread.

kalyan4fedever 11-30-2012 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kOaMaster (Post 7038531)
it's hard to win against the defending champion or the number one seed when you're both yourself.

although I like your threads, you had better.

Right considering that nadal should win both the records i guess.

tennis_pro 11-30-2012 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kOaMaster (Post 7038531)
it's hard to win against the defending champion or the number one seed when you're both yourself.

although I like your threads, you had better.

lawl, good point

we should revaluate nadals french open wins, then, as he never beat the defending FO champ

Dark Magician 11-30-2012 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7038279)
Defeated the #1 Seed at a Grand Slam
Djokovic - 2
Federer - 2
Nadal - 6 (the record) - 3 times (06 French, 07 French, 08 French), he defeated Federer, when Federer should not have been the #1 seed.

Defeated the Defending Champion at a Grand Slam
Djokovic - 4
Federer - 2
Nadal - 1

Are Federer's 2 wins - RG2011 & Wimby 2012 - both against Nole?

McEnroeisanartist 11-30-2012 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Magician (Post 7039351)
Are Federer's 2 wins - RG2011 & Wimby 2012 - both against Nole?

Against Novak at Wimbledon 2012 and Sampras at 2001 Wimbledon.

Hitman 11-30-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kOaMaster (Post 7038531)
it's hard to win against the defending champion or the number one seed when you're both yourself.

although I like your threads, you had better.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

joeri888 11-30-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7039489)
Against Novak at Wimbledon 2012 and Sampras at 2001 Wimbledon.

That's the defending champions. The no. 1 seeds are what Dark magician said.

McEnroeisanartist 11-30-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by joeri888 (Post 7039641)
That's the defending champions. The no. 1 seeds are what Dark magician said.

The opponents that Federer beat who were the defending champions were also the #1 seeds. Sampras was defending champion in 2001 and #1 seed. Djokovic was defending champion in 2011 and #1 seed.

Sabratha 11-30-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7038367)
Yes that is what I am implying. I mean I know the French love Federer, but did the tournament organizers, or anyone for that matter, think that Federer, and not Nadal would win the French Open, in 2006, 2007, and 2008.

They didn't seed Djokovic #1 for the Australian Open in 2009, when he was the defending champion. Wimbledon is the odd one out.

tacou 11-30-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7038367)
Yes that is what I am implying. I mean I know the French love Federer, but did the tournament organizers, or anyone for that matter, think that Federer, and not Nadal would win the French Open, in 2006, 2007, and 2008.

2006 was only his second FO ever...even as defending champion it would have been foolish and disrespectful to Fed to seed Nadal #1.

woodrow1029 11-30-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7038367)
Yes that is what I am implying. I mean I know the French love Federer, but did the tournament organizers, or anyone for that matter, think that Federer, and not Nadal would win the French Open, in 2006, 2007, and 2008.

I'm pretty sure that during those years, even if they used the same formua as Wimbledon, Federer probably would have been the #1 seed anyway.

6-1 6-3 6-0 11-30-2012 01:30 PM

How embarrassing for a world number one to be utterly dominated at a slam by one player over such a long period of time.

kishnabe 11-30-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0 (Post 7040183)
How embarrassing for a world number one to be utterly dominated at a slam by one player over such a long period of time.

Not an embarrassing as going 0-7 against Djokovic across all surfaces. At least Federer domination by Nadal was on Clay alone.

Razoredge 11-30-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0 (Post 7040183)
How embarrassing for a world number one to be utterly dominated at a slam by one player over such a long period of time.

Don't worry, Djokovic will know how it feels soon. :)


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