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Blocker 11-30-2012 02:45 AM

What if tennis had a heavyweight championship?
 
Imagine if tennis had the equivalent of a heavyweight championship boxing belt (in addition to all the other current trophies on offer) where it gets passed on from winner to winner.

To simplify things, I will take the winner of the USO (the last slam played) as the starting point.

Murray is the reigning heavyweight champion of tennis (being the 2012 USO winner).

Raonic beats Murray in the SF in Tokyo to become the new heavyweight champion.

Nishikori beats Raonic in the final in Tokyo to become the new heavyweight champion.

Querrey beats Nishikori in R2 in Shangai to become the new heavyweight champion.

Berdyech beats Querrey in R3 in Shangai to become the new heavyweight champion.

Djokovic beats Berdyech in the SF in Shangai to become the new heavyweight champion.

Querrey beats Djokovic in R2 in the Paris Indoor and regains the heavyweight championship.

Llodra beats Querrey in the QF in the Paris Indoor to become the new heavyweight champion.

Ferrer beats Llodra in the SF in the Paris Indoor to become the new heavyweight champion.

Federer beats Ferrer in RR2 of the WTF to become the new heavyweight champion.

Del Potro beats Federer in RR3 of the WTF to become the new heavyweight champion.

Djokovic beats Del Potro in the SF of the WTF and regains the heavyweight championship.

Djokovic successfully defended the belt against Federer in the WTF final.

I hope I got the above sequence right. It was a tedious task following the sequence of matches for just 3 months, let alone a whole year.

Wherever Djok plays next, thatís where and when he will have to defend the belt again. If for whatever reason Djok could not play the AO, his AO title would be lost but he would still hold onto the heavyweight championship.


Just some basic assumptions:

Only official matches count, no exhibitions. Official matches includes Davis Cup and Hopman Cup. Singles only. Excludes matches like the Kooyong Classic. Official matches can be BO3 or BO5.

batz 11-30-2012 02:56 AM

Is it the close season by any chance?

Alchemy-Z 11-30-2012 03:31 AM

Well if they do that then Boxing needs to have Slams where 32 top boxers show up and play in a tournament best of 6 rounds (or TKO) till the final where they play best of 12 rounds (or TKO)

Sabratha 11-30-2012 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy-Z (Post 7039346)
Well if they do that then Boxing needs to have Slams where 32 top boxers show up and play in a tournament best of 6 rounds (or TKO) till the final where they play best of 12 rounds (or TKO)

They need seeds too.

rufus_smith 11-30-2012 05:40 AM

I thought this thread was going to be about grouping players by how much they weigh. I'd like to some 300lb players.

dominikk1985 11-30-2012 06:44 AM

wimbledon used to be like this. in the first years the winner of the tournament would face last years winner.

Hitman 11-30-2012 06:48 AM

Well they need to make tennis a full contact sport then. Nadal V Djokovic is about as close to full contact as we have. They trade some of the heaviest and most exhausting blows I've ever seen. :)

sureshs 11-30-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rufus_smith (Post 7039490)
I thought this thread was going to be about grouping players by how much they weigh. I'd like to some 300lb players.

Serena?????????????

sureshs 11-30-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by batz (Post 7039329)
Is it the close season by any chance?

Things are very slow now. We have to be more creative during this time.

Sabratha 11-30-2012 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rufus_smith (Post 7039490)
I thought this thread was going to be about grouping players by how much they weigh. I'd like to some 300lb players.

How could they even run?

tacou 11-30-2012 08:07 AM

This is actually interesting, especially seeing Sam win it twice.

You have to assume it will stay with the top 4 most of the time, like everything else, because they usually win the tournament or lose to one of the other top guys--and even when they are upset, the surprise HWC usually loses to a top player and the cycle repeats

underground 11-30-2012 11:09 AM

What if you're Sampras and just retire from tennis?

Blocker 11-30-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by underground (Post 7040021)
What if you're Sampras and just retire from tennis?

I guess you could award this retrospectively. Just find the winner of the first tournament ever played and work your way from there. Like I said, tracing results for just 3 months was tedious enough, doing it for 100+ years would be painful.

Blocker 11-30-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tacou (Post 7039726)
This is actually interesting, especially seeing Sam win it twice.

You have to assume it will stay with the top 4 most of the time, like everything else, because they usually win the tournament or lose to one of the other top guys--and even when they are upset, the surprise HWC usually loses to a top player and the cycle repeats

It would provide journeymen with something to play for when they come up against seeds in the early rounds. To them 7 wins needed to win a slam must seem like an endless highway but being one win away from winning the belt may just motivate them enough to have a real crack and maybe cause an upset. They can then have their 15 minutes of fame. Imagine an AO wildcard knocking off Djok in the 1st round and claiming the belt? After the match he gets to hold up the belt and then drape it over his shoulder as he leaves the arena. What a thrill for him. He'll lose it eventually within the fortnight but at least he can say he held the belt, even if for a couple of days.

Dan Lobb 12-07-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 7039585)
Well they need to make tennis a full contact sport then. Nadal V Djokovic is about as close to full contact as we have. They trade some of the heaviest and most exhausting blows I've ever seen. :)

Some great tennis players actually trained as boxers.
For example, Lew Hoad as a teenager trained seriously as a boxer, but it made more sense to make a living in tennis.

Alchemy-Z 12-07-2012 08:08 AM

can we also get hot women to walk across the court with a sign announcing the new sets?

Goosehead 12-07-2012 08:15 AM

heavywieghts ??.....in a different sense :twisted:

bagdahtis win the grand slam every year no need to actually play..

for marcos is fat as fat can be (for a tennis player anyhow)

no one mention david 'fatdave' nalbandian though.

Magnetite 12-07-2012 08:51 AM

You may see a lot of tournament dodging, especially by lower ranked players if they manage to pull off an upset.

But then again, they'd forego $$ so I'm not sure.

Jo Willy should be the heavy weight champion for obvious reasons.

flyinghippos101 12-07-2012 09:57 AM

This is dumb, what happens if Novak loses to some rank 120 player in a freak upset in the final of Belgrade or something? But then that player gets injured? Takes time off? Then we'll have a heavyweight title circulating the challengers.


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