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McEnroeisanartist 12-03-2012 08:19 AM

What will 2013 be like for Federer
 
Other than Laver and Rosewall, the only players that had any sort of quality results at Federer's age in their careers were Connors and Agassi.

In 2013, Federer will be 31 until August, then he turns 32.

In 1984, Connors was 31 and turned 32. That year, he went 74-14 won 5 titles in 7 finals, didn't win a slam after winning one the year before, and finished the year ranked #2. He reached a grand slam final and two semifinals.

In 2002, Agassi was 31 and turned 32. That year he went 53-12 won 5 titles (including 3 Masters Series). He reached a grand slam final, quarterfinal, and 2nd round.

I think Federer's win/loss in 2013 will be closer to Agassi's. I could see him winning 3 or 4 titles. Reaching a grand slam final seems very difficult.

What do you think Federer's 2013 will be like?

Sabratha 12-03-2012 08:37 AM

I think Federer will get to the QF round at the AO, FO, Wimbledon and the US Open, ending the year at #4.

Dark Magician 12-03-2012 08:41 AM

^^ This would be the scenario in 2014. 2013 will be better. I am quite hopeful.

ricki 12-03-2012 08:44 AM

I think he will retire in 2013 season

VPhuc tennis fan 12-03-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ricki (Post 7044426)
I think he will retire in 2013 season

Pessimist! Always half-empty glass, aren't you?

VPhuc tennis fan 12-03-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha (Post 7044414)
I think Federer will get to the QF round at the AO, FO, Wimbledon and the US Open, ending the year at #4.

Why only QF @ AO and USO? Not because he lost to Berdieman at QF, USO this year that's bound to happen again next year. That loss was an aberration, an outlier IMO. Fed will make SF in all GS. Whether or not he wins, that's another matter.

Sabratha 12-03-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by VPhuc tennis fan (Post 7044460)
Why only QF @ AO and USO? Not because he lost to Berdieman at QF, USO this year that's bound to happen again next year. That loss was an aberration, an outlier IMO. Fed will make SF in all GS. Whether or not he wins, that's another matter.

I think after every year he will lose more and more consistency. He will still be incredibly consistent, but not enough to actually win the slams anymore. Perhaps he will post SF round results for the US Open and the AO, but I can't see that for Wimbledon or the FO.

NatF 12-03-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha (Post 7044471)
I think after every year he will lose more and more consistency. He will still be incredibly consistent, but not enough to actually win the slams anymore. Perhaps he will post SF round results for the US Open and the AO, but I can't see that for Wimbledon or the FO.

If he can win Wimbledon this year going through Djokovic and Murray why can't you see him reaching the semi's in atleast 2013?

batz 12-03-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist (Post 7044374)
Other than Laver and Rosewall, the only players that had any sort of quality results at Federer's age in their careers were Connors and Agassi.

In 2013, Federer will be 31 until August, then he turns 32.

In 1984, Connors was 31 and turned 32. That year, he went 74-14 won 5 titles in 7 finals, didn't win a slam after winning one the year before, and finished the year ranked #2. He reached a grand slam final and two semifinals.

In 2002, Agassi was 31 and turned 32. That year he went 53-12 won 5 titles (including 3 Masters Series). He reached a grand slam final, quarterfinal, and 2nd round.

I think Federer's win/loss in 2013 will be closer to Agassi's. I could see him winning 3 or 4 titles. Reaching a grand slam final seems very difficult.

What do you think Federer's 2013 will be like?

Bookies have him as 3rd favourite for AO and Wimbledon, 4th favourite for RG, USO and YE number 1. Also, he's the only top 4 member not to be odds on to win a slam in 2013.

Looks like the bookies are expecting some decline - I wouldn't be so sure.

Sabratha 12-03-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NatF (Post 7044478)
If he can win Wimbledon this year going through Djokovic and Murray why can't you see him reaching the semi's in atleast 2013?

Maybe he will make the SF round at Wimbledon next year, but I believe Tsonga and other threats on grass may get the better of him.

TMCW140 12-03-2012 09:39 AM

Pretty much the same as this year, I'd imagine

6-1 6-3 6-0 12-03-2012 09:42 AM

It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)

President 12-03-2012 09:44 AM

Depends how hard he trains in the offseason and his motivation levels. I honestly haven't seen much of a physical decline from Federer since 2009 or so, his level of play actually improved in 2012 relative to the previous few years so I don't foresee much of a decline

Homeboy Hotel 12-03-2012 09:49 AM

Slower.

And much more reliant on his serving.

If he's not serving well, its ******** straight to the airport.

Sabratha 12-03-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0 (Post 7044510)
It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)

Yes, just like Nadal won Roland Garros in 2009.

batz 12-03-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0 (Post 7044510)
It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)

You don't think Rafa matching his best ever season on tour after being out for 6 months is a bit of a stretch? Not saying he can't do it - but I think you need to give him some time to get back in the groove.

6-1 6-3 6-0 12-03-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabratha (Post 7044547)
Yes, just like Nadal won Roland Garros in 2009.

Yep, when his parents split. But it's unlikely they'll split again, and since Nadal has experienced the pain before, he'll have got used to it, so it will affect his play a lot less.

6-1 6-3 6-0 12-03-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by batz (Post 7044555)
You don't think Rafa matching his best ever season on tour after being out for 6 months is a bit of a stretch? Not saying he can't do it - but I think you need to give him some time to get back in the groove.

Even if Nadal loses AO 2013, then Nadal has SIX months to get into his Roland Garros groove, and since Nadal's game is based on confidence, then Nadal's confidence can propel him to the remaining 3 slams, matching Sampras by at least the US Open.

batz 12-03-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0 (Post 7044568)
Even if Nadal loses AO 2013, then Nadal has SIX months to get into his Roland Garros groove, and since Nadal's game is based on confidence, then Nadal's confidence can propel him to the remaining 3 slams, matching Sampras by at least the US Open.

He has 3 and a bit months between the end of the AO and the start of RG. The guys who price tennis matches for a living have him at 5/4 to win RG - that's the first time in about 6 years that he hasn't been odds on to win it.

I think you are only considering the best case scenario.

merlinpinpin 12-03-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 6-1 6-3 6-0 (Post 7044510)
It's not looking good for Federer. If Nadal can tie Sampras this year, Nadal will have 14 (or 15) slams at the age of 27. And then Nadal can win Roland Garros for the next five years AT LEAST, taking him to 19-20 slams. All Federer will be able to do is try to retain his QF streak. Looks like a Santoro-like end for Federer... (although Santoro was more skilled than Federer)

You really think Nadal can already be as good as Sampras in Roland Garros, by losing to a Gallos Blanco-like player in the second round? That would be mighty impressive, but I honestly think we'll have to wait a bit longer to see him posting such results on clay.

Of course, should he draw Rosol, all bets are off, obviously... ;)


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