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newyorkstadium 01-08-2013 08:11 AM

Do all the pro's use low tensions?
 
The following post from jamauss suggests they don't.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamauss (Post 6379238)
Not to mention, not that many pros are going real low with tension - maybe 5 to 10% are, but they are the exception. The pro events I string at still see most racquets being asked to be strung from about 55 to 64 pounds. Both poly and gut and syn gut/multi's included.

Here are some stringing logs:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=427479
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=330478
http://star-stringing.com/1_8_ATP-Player-Logs.html
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=270599
http://www.tennisstringer.co.uk/prosetups.jsf

A lot of the players tensions are similar in the five links. This lends some credibility to the data.

The Meat 01-08-2013 08:31 AM

What is your definition of low tension? Mines <54

newyorkstadium 01-08-2013 08:34 AM

I mean't really low. <30

The Meat 01-08-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkstadium (Post 7105547)
I mean't really low. <30

I think you might have misread Kg with Lbs, I can only think of 1 person who used strings in the 20 lbs range which was Volandri.

newyorkstadium 01-08-2013 08:50 AM

Look at the links. 50-70% are <30

The Meat 01-08-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkstadium (Post 7105569)
Look at the links. 50-70% are <30

<30Kg? Because thats approximately 66lbs, which is really high in tension.

mmk 01-08-2013 08:57 AM

30 kg = 66 lbs, so yes, most pros use less than 30 kg

Don't know of too many pros using less than 30 lbs (roughly 13.6 kg)

The Meat 01-08-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmk (Post 7105577)
30 kg = 66 lbs, so yes, most pros use less than 30 kg

Don't know of too many pros using less than 30 lbs (roughly 13.6 kg)

The OP was saying that most pros strung at a low tension of <30kg, which is 66lbs. That would be insane for a low tension, is a high tension like 80lbs? I know sampras used gut in the 70's, but he would snap them easily.

newyorkstadium 01-08-2013 09:03 AM

Nevermind. I misread the data. The <30 numbers were in kg not lbs.

It appears the great majority of players string at 50+lbs.

The Meat 01-08-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkstadium (Post 7105590)
Nevermind. I misread the data. The <30 numbers were in kg not lbs.

It appears the great majority of players string at 50+lbs.

Its all good, I blame the US for still using lbs. Time to convert to the most used measuring system around the world, Metric!!!!

netlets 01-15-2013 02:47 PM

This doesn't make sense to me. Most players, after reading articles, etc, if they use a full bed of poly, are under 52lbs and in the 40's and 30's (lb's). A full bed of poly doesn't give you the playability if it isn't under 52. Check out this link:

http://www.***********************/b...-and-co-polys/

Davis Cup Fan 01-15-2013 04:03 PM

^^^^^ that link won't work you have to put a space somewhere or write dot com instead of .com because tt blocks because it is considered a competitor of tw.

db10s 01-15-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Cup Fan (Post 7123543)
^^^^^ that link won't work you have to put a space somewhere or write dot com instead of .com because tt blocks because it is considered a competitor of tw.

I'm lost on what that website could possibly be. I can normally figure it out, but this has me at a dead end.

Tennisguy3000 01-15-2013 04:42 PM

I think it is... gutsandglorytennis. com (no space)

Then the The Definitive Guide to Stringing Polys and Co-polys

Maybe referencing this... First of all, and perhaps the biggest obstacle to overcome, is to realize that poly-based strings are designed to perform best at lower tensions. We are talking a tension range in the 30′s – 40′s. The absolute top end of that range would be 52 pounds. Once you go beyond 52, you are entering the point of quickly diminishing returns. I realize this may represent a HUGE shift in thinking for many readers. In fact a majority of you are probably thinking of mailing me a care package of colorful Sharpies so that I can decorate the walls of my padded room, but it is not really that crazy. The fear of low tensions is loss of control. I can assure you from personal experience as well as experience with many local customers, that quality poly-based offerings, PROPERLY INSTALLED, give ample control at these low tensions. I PROMISE this is a true statement. In fact, when all elements are working together (strings/racquet/player) it becomes almost impossible to hit a ball long.

marosmith 01-15-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tennisguy3000 (Post 7123661)
I think it is... gutsandglorytennis. com (no space)

Then the The Definitive Guide to Stringing Polys and Co-polys

Maybe referencing this... First of all, and perhaps the biggest obstacle to overcome, is to realize that poly-based strings are designed to perform best at lower tensions. We are talking a tension range in the 30′s 40′s. The absolute top end of that range would be 52 pounds. Once you go beyond 52, you are entering the point of quickly diminishing returns. I realize this may represent a HUGE shift in thinking for many readers. In fact a majority of you are probably thinking of mailing me a care package of colorful Sharpies so that I can decorate the walls of my padded room, but it is not really that crazy. The fear of low tensions is loss of control. I can assure you from personal experience as well as experience with many local customers, that quality poly-based offerings, PROPERLY INSTALLED, give ample control at these low tensions. I PROMISE this is a true statement. In fact, when all elements are working together (strings/racquet/player) it becomes almost impossible to hit a ball long.

You are completely correct.

netlets 01-18-2013 06:36 AM

Sorry! Yes, that is what I was referring to. Also, I never knew you had to wait 5 seconds before clamping poly so it can stretch a bit.

TennisCJC 01-18-2013 09:57 AM

Lots of pros string poly and poly hybrids over 50 lbs and a few string them over 60 lbs. Blake, DelPo, Agassi, Cilic, Isner among many over 60 lbs with poly or poly hybrid. Nadal, Davydenko, Djoko and many others in the 50-60 lb range. Federer, Hingis, Jack Sock, Max Mirni, Filippo Volandri among a bunch below 50 lbs.

Trend seems to be moving down in last couple of years.

TennisCJC 01-18-2013 10:00 AM

Most of us mere mortals should use poly in the low to medium range in my view.

JDMasFCK 01-18-2013 10:38 AM

Do you find thicker or thinner string gauges excel more at low tensions (30-40lbs)?

TennisCJC 01-19-2013 01:17 PM

I would not know about the 30-40 lbs range but I like 17g hybrid with multi mains at 52 lbs and a poly cross at 48 lbs.

For me, 17G has a touch more power and spin. Durability is not as good but with NRG2 mains and a Signum Pro or Tecnifibre poly cross, I get at least 10-12 quality hours.

I have never tried anything below the mid-40s.


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